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scottj63

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on: April 12, 2008, 09:02:08 am
Well I moved away from the Philippines in my second round and boyyyyyyyy am I learning a good lesson. This round is slow for me. I pick my bases on where i have lived during my life. So this round "Honduras Airlines" is based in Honduras. I sure don't make any money based there. It isnt even a good idea for me to lease a 160k  a month plane because I dont know if i can make enough from my routes to pay the lease and the gates. I have 2 planes now with a 3rd on order. I just can't believe how little money I make there. I have one route that makes over 10k a flight. most are around 5k. Any practical ideas for improving are greatly appreciated.

Scott in the Philippines on a longggggggggggggg vacation


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Reply #1 on: April 12, 2008, 09:07:15 am
Either up sticks and move to somewhere with more oppertunaty, or just wate a looooooooooong time untill you have the oppertunaty to open a new base with somewhere with more oppertunaty :P


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Reply #2 on: April 12, 2008, 09:20:58 am
Well I am going to try to stick it out and see what happens, even the folks in lower Central America need an airline. I will just see how it goes and buy planes as the opportunity arises. Wish I was in an alliance that sold planes cheap when they were done with them (laughing)

Scott on long vacation in the Philippines


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Reply #3 on: April 12, 2008, 10:20:03 am
well I leased a 160k plane and with 5 gates I will make about 30k a month profit on it, going to be a longggggggggggggg round (laughing)

scott in the philippines


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Reply #4 on: April 12, 2008, 10:59:15 am
Just save up for a new base, It will be slightly easier because you would of accumalated  a reasonable amount of airports until then, so all you really need is a plane. :wink:


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Reply #5 on: April 12, 2008, 11:00:08 am
And make sure its a good airport, may be more expensive but it will be worth it. :wink:


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Reply #6 on: April 12, 2008, 12:55:59 pm
where in honduras ? if its in san pedro its not bad
just choose cheap planes with range in the begining and u'llbe fine
canadair is fine costs around 3m 1295 range and 30 pax
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Reply #7 on: April 13, 2008, 12:47:47 am
Scott,

Which world are you in?
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Reply #8 on: April 13, 2008, 03:41:14 am
Heh, every time I started a round on here, I always based at PIT.  It's my home, and my heart will always be in Pittsburgh, even when I live someplace else.  Every round tho, I try different markets to supplement my PIT base.
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Reply #9 on: April 13, 2008, 12:05:58 pm
well, i own 3 small planes and leased in 1.  Leasing now isnt viable because every place i can make money now is out of range for a plane i can afford. But my dop is up to 116k, so I hope to be able to afford a plane with 20 seats and 1000 mile range over 200kts in a month or month and a half. Patience will be the key this round. Being a small country carrier is not going to get me a mansion quick, but it will be satisfying if i can pull off a nice rise of the companies value.

Fleur, I am in world 3 I believe. My airline is "Honduras Airlines"

scott in the Philippines on a longgggggggggg vacation


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Reply #10 on: April 13, 2008, 10:33:31 pm
Scott,

I looked at your airline (we are in the same world, after all).
You're in a tight spot, going to be hard to make money.
Stay with small craft for now.

I freed up one of my old clunkers, and sent it to you in a private sale.
You'll need $483,444 to buy it. Sorry, I couldn't price it for any less (I made sure it was my cheapest clunker too).
Other option is, that I can send you some "el cheapo" leases when I free up some more.

Edit: All right, I have one on lease too. If you would rather buy it, let me know. My airline name and number are in my signature.

I admire your style, and enjoyed your posts when you're airline was in the Philippines last season.
Take care.
Have Fun.

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Reply #11 on: April 16, 2008, 06:46:07 am
I finally got enough money to buy the plane from Fleur. Thank you very much Fleur, the Otter will make me about 70k a month profit, twice what my lease plane makes. If you get another old plane with about 1000 nm range let me know, i will replace my lease plane with that.

I will try to make a second base at an airport with a bigger base population, but that will take YEARS at the profit rate I have. It will cost me 6.4 mil to do it and that is, well, very "ambitious" thinking for Honduras Air. I am sure this round will be a "personal satisfaction" round for me. I have no way to make money with the way I started and it will be fun to just slowly build up what I can offering what services that I can to the region I am in.

I appreciate the advice and help that I get in the game. This is a great community here and I enjoy being a part of it.

Scott in the Philippines on a longgggggggggggg vacation


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Reply #12 on: April 20, 2008, 10:19:17 am
Well my dop is now about 130k a day, and I'm very happy with that. We are and will be just a small regional carrier. I have 5 small planes in service with my first 32 seater on order for the last 4 1million plus cities within reach of my base. That should hopefully get me to about 180-200k a day. Then i will sit back and try to save about 7 million dollars to make a second hub for our airline which will greatly increase the bottom line for us. I was able to return my lease plane when i found the same plane priced much below its book value. In 3 months it will have paid for itself just in lease savings. So that was a great move.

Let's see how things go in the next couple years.

scott in Philippines on a longgggggggg vacation


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Reply #13 on: April 20, 2008, 09:46:44 pm
You should have started somewhere with a good amount of airports within 1000 miles as well as a good amount of PAX (5 mil +)


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Reply #14 on: April 21, 2008, 05:21:55 am
I've been so busy Scott, sorry.

Glad you're doing better. Happy that plane worked out.

I can send you another Otter, or a DHC-100, or both - if you can afford them.
(I'll give you another really big deal on them too.  ;) )

If you got enough cash, I can also offer an AĆ©rospatiale N 262. These are great, would work well with your airline. I still am able to find a use for all the ones I bought.

Else; take a look at the aircraft my airline has in game (see signature for details), and just message me with what you'd like me to send you.
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