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Reply #75 on: March 03, 2008, 06:02:03 am
lol, its just to show that Virgin is very mean when it wants to be :lol:


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Reply #76 on: March 03, 2008, 04:53:45 pm
I've got some yo-yo doing multiples on a couple of routes. I sent a PM suggesting they reduce frequencies but nothing but a fare reduction on one route. We compete solely on two routes, so I dumped multiples on those. Hopefully they'll get the hint.


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Reply #77 on: March 03, 2008, 05:01:16 pm
:evil: A certain Broker who gets scrapped BAe's is putting them on routes from my hub of a variable 0.5-6 with a ticket price of less than E100 which is very unfair for all of us who are trying to make money and who are not a broker! He should not be allowed to play like this!


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Reply #78 on: March 03, 2008, 05:15:58 pm
Just to say, every broker who gets scrapped BAe's has so far put them on routes, although 3/4th of the brokers have leased out more planes than they have in service. Besides, brokers need the route cash if they want to do anything later on in the round as far as brokering is concerned. If they don't, it's gonna be all Why are there no brokers instead of Why do brokers compete with me on routes.


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Reply #79 on: March 03, 2008, 05:17:03 pm
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Just to say, every broker who gets scrapped BAe's has so far put them on routes


...except Hampo :P

But anyway, why not just forget about the broker thingy and stop all these negative markup? They asked for it to be stopped, so let their wishes to be heard.
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Reply #80 on: March 03, 2008, 05:25:46 pm
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Quote from: "MrOrange"
Just to say, every broker who gets scrapped BAe's has so far put them on routes


...except Hampo :P

But anyway, why not just forget about the broker thingy and stop all these negative markup? They asked for it to be stopped, so let their wishes to be heard.


I dont mind Hampo having the free BAe's but if he wants to abuse it by doing the thing I said above, then hes abusing the privilege and that is unfair to me as well as everyone else. Anyway, they are creating their own negative markup

btw, hampo has put them on the routes from my hub with the free planes and high frequencies.


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Reply #81 on: March 03, 2008, 05:28:02 pm
Check the rankings page :P

For every person who wants to stop the brokerage service, there's a person who doesn't. That's the entire problem with all these people going on and on about "unfair competition" and that sort of stuff. Would they complain if they got a cheap lease from a broker? No they wouldn't. They suddenly/magically wouldn't bother at all. Do I, on the other hand, hear complaints from people flying out of Amsterdam? Not really, seeing as I provided them (my own competition) with cheap planes. Why are people complaining about how unfair the brokerage system is when they don't even try to use it? Not a clue. Why are people complaining anyway about a feature that could help their airline develop more quickly? Don't know. Why are people complaining about other people who play the game as it was designed? This is the last time I'm gonna say this: Multiple frequencies are OK. They might hurt you, well, go find another playground, because there's plenty of sand for everyone. They are completely within game limitations, otherwise there would have been just the option for one frequency. Why create the option if you don't want anyone to use it? Really, people, just stop complaining about things you shouldn't complain about and find something else to do. If everyone on this forum could just think before they type, and have some common sense, the forum would be a whole lot better, but that's a mere sidenote.

Oh, and to answer D's question: Most of my customers tend to know how to behave :)


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Reply #82 on: March 03, 2008, 05:32:10 pm
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Oh, and to answer D's question: Most of my customers tend to know how to behave :)


yaya, but most non-customers don't. :roll:
(Once again, I am the bad cop)
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Reply #83 on: March 03, 2008, 05:34:30 pm
(You've always been)

I don't really care about the non-customers, as long as my non-non-customers act even slightly mature.


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Reply #84 on: March 03, 2008, 05:40:17 pm
As I said before, I have no interest what so ever that a broker gets free planes which people have scrapped or just create routes to get money thus cheap planes for us, I actually agree with it (although they should be given money, but different story). But If they are going to get these scrapped 'free' planes and then dump them from someones hubs (anyones) with a freq of more than one (which doesnt make near as much money as if they do it with a freq 1) with a price less than E100 then this is very unfair for people who want to play properly and buy the planes when they raise enough money to do that. currently Hampo is not playing fairly seeing that hes a broker, but if he wasn't then I would not be complaining.


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Reply #85 on: March 03, 2008, 05:42:03 pm
Someone's doing multiple frequencies from one of my bases.  It's not just 2x or 3x but 6x to 10x.  I'm fine with it because his airline will never grow and there will be less competition for mediumhaul and longhaul flights.


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Reply #86 on: March 03, 2008, 05:46:50 pm
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As I said before, I have no interest what so ever that a broker gets free planes which people have scrapped or just create routes to get money thus cheap planes for us, I actually agree with it (although they should be given money, but different story). But If they are going to get these scrapped 'free' planes and then dump them from someones hubs (anyones) with a freq of more than one (which doesnt make near as much money as if they do it with a freq 1) with a price less than E100 then this is very unfair for people who want to play properly and buy the planes when they raise enough money to do that. currently Hampo is not playing fairly seeing that hes a broker, but if he wasn't then I would not be complaining.

Once again. There are tons of routes you can fly with a BAe that Hampo doesn't fly on. He flies only 4 routes, iirc, so that's -4. Big deal. Find yourself an unoccupied swing set and you'll be fine. And about using the term "properly": I thought I made clear there's a lot of proper ways to play AM. Every person can think of his own proper way. Last round, I had 5 Fokker F28's and dumped them on big routes with lots of frequencies for a low price, which is the same as what Hampo's doing, to make some extra money on the side. Why? Because I felt like creating an Easy-jettish LCC-with-too-many-frequencies.


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Reply #87 on: March 03, 2008, 05:57:53 pm
And before this accelerates out of hand, this is not just an coincident, nor would it happen to anyone. Hampo has Stephen's blessing in targetting Iranair777 because he didn't behave himself in IRC and annoyed the heck out of Stephen. :wink: (... long story... but that is all you all need to know)
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Reply #88 on: March 03, 2008, 06:00:30 pm
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And before this accelerates out of hand, this is not just an coincident, nor would it happen to anyone. Hampo has Stephen's blessing in targetting Iranair777 because he didn't behave himself in IRC and annoyed the heck out of Stephen. :wink: (... long story... but that is all you all need to know)

 :evil: When did I ever not behave on IRC? (well, probably when I had sugar) But still, I dont care about my airline in AM current game at the moment cause I spend my time in multiworlds now. I'm talking on behalf of the airlines in the middle east who are on these routes and are losing money


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Reply #89 on: March 03, 2008, 06:03:36 pm
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:evil: When did I ever not behave on IRC? (well, probably when I had sugar)



First, you attempted to seduce Stephen, then you ran around naked and danced in the room, then you bug him to deliver planes in MW repeatedly, despite he told you it wouldn't happen, and then you were rude to Viktor, then you slapped us all, including Stephen... and the list goes on and on and on and on and on (well you get the picture :P ).....
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