Airbus A300B1

iranair777 · **Reply #30 on:** February 04, 2008, 05:57:27 pm

Quote from: "dktc"

The data is issue is clarified in the data thread in respond to your other post.

Two A300B1 was delivered to an airline and were in service if I recall correctly.

It is not a production version, as A300B2-100 superceded it.

We do have other planes that have never been in production in the database. We did a poll way back when our previous aircraft data officer was still with us, and the majority opinion was as long as the plane has been made, and had flew (even it is a prototype), we would add them, regardless of other circumstancial factors that results in the lack of production.

a little bit off topic, but why is it whenever I want to click on a topic that you've replied to I always check to see if the topics been locked

dktc · **Reply #31 on:** February 04, 2008, 06:09:03 pm

Because I only answer to important topics

... now... get back on topic, or this will be locked :wink:

Skyfox · **Reply #32 on:** February 04, 2008, 07:00:44 pm

Yea, now that im taking deliveries on this thing. Im realizing its really not cracked up to much, im making less on it due to competition acting in turn than before when i was using 737s at .5.

And ill make not to self not to use it on any of *a player's* hubs, Geez. Man it was only a 727 from sharm to zurich. needed to put that bird down somewhere, its been sitting in in my hanger a better part of a week.

But ill admit its a good strategy, and one ill take up on aswell. Burn the invaders :twisted:

that should be a bonus for african airlines, you should be able to torch incoming aircraft and claim it was a coup.

*edited by dktc: please don't mention airline names of your fellow players*

Chavaquiah · **Reply #33 on:** February 04, 2008, 07:15:28 pm

Quote from: "Skyfox"

And ill make not to self not to use it on any of Lusitanas hubs, Geez. Man it was only a 727 from sharm to zurich. needed to put that bird down somewhere, its been sitting in in my hanger a better part of a week.

But ill admit its a good strategy, and one ill take up on aswell. Burn the invaders :twisted:

Trouble is, the way the LF algorithm goes, your not so little 727 sent my LF plummeting below 50% (that's when I take action; until then do as you please). Still, I believe in sharing. This way you should be having 100% or close enough, I'm over 80%, we should both be happy. (*a player* is probably not so amused... c'est la vie.)

*edited by dktc: please don't mention airline names of your fellow players*

Skyfox · **Reply #34 on:** February 04, 2008, 07:34:41 pm

Same here, dont usualy create a fuss if its around 80%, thats where the better part of my routes are at. I was running a 732 at .5 there before, i wanted to upgrade that. so what i can do is switch it out to a 732 at 1. which should mean higher profits for us both.

That goes for sharm atleast, i dont know about Djerba and tripoli. *a player* has been extremly competative at both those hubs i might be forced to alternate aircraft to compete.

*edited by dktc: please don't mention airline names of your fellow players*

epxair · **Reply #35 on:** February 05, 2008, 01:11:52 am

Quote from: "iranair777"

I have 4 routes on my sole A300 with a total DOP of €305,794
I have 3 routes on my sole 742 with a total DOP of €333,090

I was hoping to get around an average of 130-150k on each route, but the most om getting is 110k and 80k

do the math

but one of my SE210 10B have a total DOP of over 700K euro......

Chavaquiah · **Reply #36 on:** February 05, 2008, 01:22:14 am

Until recently, my most profitable plane was a Fokker F28-1000. Now, it's also a Caravelle 10B (that pretty much replaced the F28). My most profitable A300 only brings in little over 600K. I still have 15 sitting idle... maybe I can milk a little more from them but I doubt it.

zkvac · **Reply #37 on:** February 05, 2008, 04:15:11 am

I'm getting about 450,000 with mine so I'm happy.

epxair · **Reply #38 on:** February 05, 2008, 04:21:38 am

Quote from: "zkvac"

I'm getting about 450,000 with mine so I'm happy.

but you are dropping the air fares unnecessarily

zkvac · **Reply #39 on:** February 05, 2008, 05:28:26 am

Nope I have the same fare as a 727 on a 2x frequency, and I'm making more moolah ( one is competing against you I think

)

(Even if I was, I wouldn't care

)

RMAirlines · **Reply #40 on:** February 05, 2008, 06:55:35 am

I wish I could make my 732 advanced models make more $$$$$! My most profitable one makes only 260,000. My A300 gets me 336,000 though. Any advice?

LOT 737-300 · **Reply #41 on:** February 05, 2008, 01:30:41 pm

My guess is you should find a more suitable type to fly those routes or just live with what your planes make now. Also, I guess it comes down to route choice. You won't make as much with the 100K Euro airports than you would going between like 250K Euro airports. Also, the distances you fly with them might also come into factor. The further you fly, the more costs you'll have on that route, which equals lower profit than if the cities were closer togeather.

iranair777 · **Reply #42 on:** February 05, 2008, 01:35:00 pm

Quote from: "RMAirlines"

I wish I could make my 732 advanced models make more $$$$$! My most profitable one makes only 260,000. My A300 gets me 336,000 though. Any advice?

I have a couple of 732adv's on lease And the highest earner is 322,849 EUR and I have 7 routes on it which are quite long and I still have 1 hour remaining :shock:

Depart: Arrive: Freq: Load: Ticket Price: Profit:
Tehran - Mehrabad Tabriz International 1 100% €265 €60,278
Tehran - Mehrabad Dubai International Airport 1 100% €206 €45,873
Tehran - Mehrabad Mumbai/Bombay - Chhatarpati Sh 0.5 64% €610 €43,366
Tehran - Mehrabad Moscow Sheremetyevo 0.5 98% €606 €66,961
Tehran - Mehrabad Mashhad 1 100% €240 €54,237
Tehran - Mehrabad Shiraz International 1 47% €162 €16,455 (dont ask

)
Tehran - Mehrabad Shiraz International 1 100% €159 €35,681

Anyway, what you need to do is search the above and see how long they are in order to copy me. In no time you'll get a higher DOP outta them

AirHanoverInternational · **Reply #43 on:** February 05, 2008, 02:01:23 pm

Quote from: "LOT 737-300"

My guess is you should find a more suitable type to fly those routes or just live with what your planes make now. Also, I guess it comes down to route choice. You won't make as much with the 100K Euro airports than you would going between like 250K Euro airports. Also, the distances you fly with them might also come into factor. The further you fly, the more costs you'll have on that route, which equals lower profit than if the cities were closer togeather.

Shorter routes = fly more routes = higher DOP

LOT 737-300 · **Reply #44 on:** February 05, 2008, 02:06:43 pm

Quote from: "AirHanoverInternational"

Quote from: "LOT 737-300"
My guess is you should find a more suitable type to fly those routes or just live with what your planes make now. Also, I guess it comes down to route choice. You won't make as much with the 100K Euro airports than you would going between like 250K Euro airports. Also, the distances you fly with them might also come into factor. The further you fly, the more costs you'll have on that route, which equals lower profit than if the cities were closer togeather.

Shorter routes = fly more routes = higher DOP

Which is my point exactly, of course, it also comes down to where you're based. If you're based out of CDG or LHR, you might find it rather hard to live by this. Choosing planes wisely is another mistake people make, most will rush to the largest type (or most popular) insted of buying smaller, cheaper types to get more effective coverage with. This is why some airlines expand faster than those who are focusing on "all jet" fleets from the very beginning without making any milestones to get there.