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Reply #15 on: February 03, 2008, 04:26:18 am
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I ordered a handful of them, just to try them out.

60 widebodies is only a "handful"?!?!

Oh, to be a rich airline! :wink:
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Reply #16 on: February 03, 2008, 08:48:51 am
A300 is the best a/c to replace B727
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Reply #17 on: February 04, 2008, 11:43:40 am
2 words about the A300: Very dissapointed

my 742 makes more money and thats with the 742 having 1 hour remaining on the clock! the A300 has 0 hours and it giving me less than the 742!


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Reply #18 on: February 04, 2008, 11:55:53 am
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2 words about the A300: Very dissapointed

my 742 makes more money and thats with the 742 having 1 hour remaining on the clock! the A300 has 0 hours and it giving me less than the 742!

for me...
both 742 or A300: very disappointed.....
because it is not necessary.....
unless you have to compete with other airlines.... :D
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Reply #19 on: February 04, 2008, 12:08:07 pm
I love my A300!  I use it to fly between oversaturated routes.  Gives good returns even with very low prices.  :D


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Reply #20 on: February 04, 2008, 12:08:49 pm
A300? Great! :D

If I had the time, I would try to determine the best routes to put them. Since I don't, I just leave them there, patiently, waiting. When the next airline thinks of getting a few more lousy Euros on its DOP by lowering fares by 1€, I activate one A300 at Freqs 1 or even 2. Great fun! :lol:


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Reply #21 on: February 04, 2008, 12:27:16 pm
A300B1 is way much slower than it should be!

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Reply #22 on: February 04, 2008, 01:24:22 pm
I'm with epxair here, the largest plane that I would ever fly out of my bases is the IL-62 and the Tu-114 base version, simply due to the fact that anything larger is totally overkill on a majority of the routes I would be flying and dumping the largest thing I can on every route just isn't logical, since the returns on those would be so small, a AN-24V or Yak 40D and in some cases a L-410 might be more effective while producing the same exact profit as one of my Tups would on those routes. Though to be honest though, one of the main uses for the A300 was to do high density short to mid hauls, so it seems to do it's mission well here as far as that goes by the looks of things.


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Reply #23 on: February 04, 2008, 01:26:03 pm
I have 4 routes on my sole A300 with a total DOP of €305,794
I have 3 routes on my sole 742 with a total DOP of €333,090

I was hoping to get around an average of 130-150k on each route, but the most om getting is 110k and 80k

do the math ;)


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Reply #24 on: February 04, 2008, 01:31:35 pm
Quote from: "iranair777"
I have 4 routes on my sole A300 with a total DOP of €305,794
I have 3 routes on my sole 742 with a total DOP of €333,090

I was hoping to get around an average of 130-150k on each route, but the most om getting is 110k and 80k

do the math ;)


Isn't the 742 around 3x more expensive?

do the math  :D


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Reply #25 on: February 04, 2008, 01:34:54 pm
Quote from: "SeaBlue Pacific Air"
Quote from: "iranair777"
I have 4 routes on my sole A300 with a total DOP of €305,794
I have 3 routes on my sole 742 with a total DOP of €333,090

I was hoping to get around an average of 130-150k on each route, but the most om getting is 110k and 80k

do the math ;)


Isn't the 742 around 3x more expensive?

do the math  :D


 :oops:

but still, my leased 732adv is making more money than the A300, and thats with it having much less seats than the A300.

If the A300 has 300 seats, then it should give a higher DOP


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Reply #26 on: February 04, 2008, 01:50:32 pm
Quote from: "iranair777"
Quote from: "SeaBlue Pacific Air"
Quote from: "iranair777"
I have 4 routes on my sole A300 with a total DOP of €305,794
I have 3 routes on my sole 742 with a total DOP of €333,090

I was hoping to get around an average of 130-150k on each route, but the most om getting is 110k and 80k

do the math ;)


Isn't the 742 around 3x more expensive?

do the math  :D


 :oops:

but still, my leased 732adv is making more money than the A300, and thats with it having much less seats than the A300.

If the A300 has 300 seats, then it should give a higher DOP

Not really true, like I had mentioned earlier, eventually, you'll put so much capacity on a route, that it gets to a point where it simply becomes more logical to put a smaller aircraft on routes. Like for example, if I were to fly Vnukovo to Kiev Zhilny, I'd find it a whole lot more desirable to fly a Yak 40 or L-410 than use a Tu-154 or IL-62. I should share a experiance I had flying my first round in the 2000s era. I tried to start Kalingrad to Pyonyang services, the first plane I put on it was a 777, I was losing around 10K a day on it, so I had to try putting one of my A310s on it, still losing a good 5K on it. After that, I leased out a G500 and guess what? I was making 5K on it (if we had BBJs then, or something of that equivilant, which can hold about 50 people, I'd probebly be making more like 10 or 15K.) Granted, my example used two smaller airports, but what I had explained can still hold true, not every plane will fit on every route, no matter how many seats it has.


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Reply #27 on: February 04, 2008, 02:27:46 pm
The A300 is not worth its money if you fly routes >1.000nm. A least from my experience in Central America. You can make more money with a B732Adv which costs less than the half.
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Reply #28 on: February 04, 2008, 05:04:43 pm
It's too cheap
And i get a book from Airbus
A300B1 is test only
Didn't sell to any airlines
A300B2 is first for sale in airbus
And A300B1 is only for 259 passengers only
IT need to change the data
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Reply #29 on: February 04, 2008, 05:32:48 pm
The data is issue is clarified in the data thread in respond to your other post.

Two A300B1 was delivered to an airline and were in service if I recall correctly.

It is not a production version, as A300B2-100 superceded it.

We do have other planes that have never been in production in the database. We did a poll way back when our previous aircraft data officer was still with us, and the majority opinion was as long as the plane has been made, and had flew (even it is a prototype), we would add them, regardless of other circumstancial factors that results in the lack of production.
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