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Pacific

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on: October 22, 2007, 08:42:24 pm
This is not AE.  Capacity dumping doesn't work because it's so bloody cheap to fly these planes.  In fact, dumping results in a drop of loadfactor from 100% to 30% on part of the dumper if someone's Bellanca SuperduperAircruiser charges €0.1 less!





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Reply #1 on: October 24, 2007, 08:46:59 pm
Quote from: "Pacific"
This is not AE.  Capacity dumping doesn't work because it's so bloody cheap to fly these planes.  In fact, dumping results in a drop of loadfactor from 100% to 30% on part of the dumper if someone's Bellanca SuperduperAircruiser charges €0.1 less!





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hey, i'm pretty new to AM - i'm guessing AE is another airline sim game.   And i guess your point is that you can't force someone out of a market by throwing capacity at them and undercutting the fare because the costs are so minimal that you only lose a tiny amount of money for flying empty.

so my question is this.... HOW does one get another airline out of a route ?


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Reply #2 on: October 24, 2007, 08:49:44 pm
negotiation. (or mostly probably, you can't)
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Reply #3 on: October 24, 2007, 09:01:12 pm
What is Capacity dumping?


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Reply #4 on: October 24, 2007, 09:29:11 pm
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What is Capacity dumping?


An extreme example would be run a short route (JFK-EWR) with a B744 for say... 20 freq a day.
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Reply #5 on: October 25, 2007, 12:06:48 am
I plonked 2000 seats on FCO-CDG back in the days to get people out... :lol:

Tried chucking 1000 seats in AM...doesn't work at all because:
1. The low cost of flying.
2. The €0.1 undercut feature which makes you go in the red more often than anyone else.


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Reply #6 on: October 25, 2007, 12:21:48 am
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What is Capacity dumping?


An extreme example would be run a short route (JFK-EWR) with a B744 for say... 20 freq a day.


i thought ther was a 10 freq limit? just sayin. should be using 10 freq in the example i think.


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Reply #7 on: October 25, 2007, 12:36:35 am
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i thought ther was a 10 freq limit? just sayin. should be using 10 freq in the example i think.


Abolished.

The 2x 0.5 limit remains though.

http://www.stephenm.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2724


 

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