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on: September 05, 2010, 05:39:44 pm
It's been a long time since i was last active on this board.

Anyway, what is the status for cargo? I can see that the cargo numbers for many airports are up. How hard would it be to activate the cargo system? I suppose the aircraft need cargo numbers?
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Reply #1 on: September 05, 2010, 06:01:53 pm
That is to be used in further development, as far as I know.
In other words, the data is there, we just don't use it yet - just ignore it.


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Reply #2 on: September 05, 2010, 06:18:38 pm
That is to be used in further development, as far as I know.
In other words, the data is there, we just don't use it yet

I was hoping for more information on the future developments regarding cargo.
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Reply #3 on: September 05, 2010, 08:15:42 pm
There is no current priority to get cargo developed. We don't have data for aircraft cargo capacities at the moment which is a major issue.
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Reply #4 on: September 07, 2010, 07:08:45 pm
So what would the data be? How much each aircraft type can carry?

If the problem is the lack of data for cargo to be carried by pax planes, would it be possible to add a few cargo-only types to the game, for a starter? I'm thinking smaller all cargo (non-pax) freghters such as the 737-300F and the ATR-Freighter?
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Reply #5 on: March 26, 2011, 02:02:22 am
I have some specs and seeing that you are using metric tons (I guess):
ATR-42F capable of 12 t
ATR-72F capable of 15 t
757-200F or A300F capable of 51 t
MD-11F capable of 91 t
AN-124 capable of 150 t

I don't really know about 737 freighters
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Reply #6 on: March 26, 2011, 10:37:03 am
You'll have to have sources, or the staff won't accept the data.


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Reply #7 on: March 26, 2011, 11:41:50 am
I see one problem with cargo aircraft in AM. Most cargo planes are converted from passenger planes. How would you purchase them?

More aircraft numbers:

Boeing 737-700QC (Quick Change - Has the option of having cargo instead of passengers) - 18.780 kg / 18,78 metric tons
http://www.b737.org.uk/737ng.htm#737-700

Boeing 737-300QC - 17 tons
http://www.jet-time.dk/en_US/fragtflyvning.html

Boeing 757-200F (New-build) - 39,78 tons
http://www.boeing.com/commercial/757family/pf/pf_200f_tech.html

MD-11F - (New-build) - 91,670 tons
http://www.boeing.com/commercial/md-11family/freighter.html

When finding numbers, please make sure you get the weight in metric tons or kilos, and not long tons or short tons. See more on wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ton
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Reply #8 on: March 27, 2011, 05:54:54 pm
I see one problem with cargo aircraft in AM. Most cargo planes are converted from passenger planes. How would you purchase them?

Well, either you would buy new-built cargo planes, or maybe you could convert existing passenger planes.

Say if you own a passenger MD-11, you would be able to convert it to a MD-11F.



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Reply #9 on: March 27, 2011, 09:21:01 pm
I suspect that the regular game economics would still apply, in that it would be preferable to have younger planes to avoid high maintenance - so there wouldn't be as much demand for older planes. Though some sort of change to the maintenance formula for cargo planes could be a solution to the huge number of 2nd hand planes on the market.

That said, starting out, it would be preferable to have some kind of system rather than none - it can't be entirely realistic from the start.


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Reply #10 on: March 28, 2011, 08:00:28 am
I suspect that the regular game economics would still apply, in that it would be preferable to have younger planes to avoid high maintenance - so there wouldn't be as much demand for older planes. Though some sort of change to the maintenance formula for cargo planes could be a solution to the huge number of 2nd hand planes on the market.

How about planes being renovated to `new´ condition when they are converted?

That said, starting out, it would be preferable to have some kind of system rather than none - it can't be entirely realistic from the start.

Agreed!
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Reply #11 on: March 28, 2011, 02:18:51 pm
I think renovating planes to new would be a bit too much. It would effectively be allowing airlines to get free planes in exchange for a worthless scrap. In real life, old planes are only attractive to cargo operators because they are near-worthless for passenger service. I think lower maintenance costs (or making them less age-dependent) on cargo aircraft would be more appropriate - so that they are economical to run in their old age.

That said, it is a bit false to make maintenance costs cheaper - in real life it's not so much the lower running costs (indeed, the older planes may be more costly to run) as the fact that they are costly to overhaul/modernise (for passengers) and that they provide a more likely return on investment (i.e. minimal investment, making them easier to profit on).
Those sort of factors are less of an issue in AM, in the former because plane age has no effect on passenger revenue, and in the latter because you are basically guaranteed revenue on anything other than the busiest routes.


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Reply #12 on: March 31, 2011, 02:26:48 am
So far we have lots of information on the aircraft but how new is airport cargo data? It will be interesting to see where cargo airlines base if it becomes a feature in AM. Memphis could become the new ATL.


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Reply #13 on: March 31, 2011, 07:49:17 am
The AN-225 has 250t
The A380 has 150t


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Reply #14 on: March 31, 2011, 08:03:09 am
The AN-225 has 250t
The A380 has 150t

Sources? And the A380F doesn't exist yet ;)
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