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on: June 12, 2008, 12:30:40 pm
I beleive that Pyramid3 & Pyramid5 are the same person. Its pretty obvious seeing that their airlines are aeroeuro and aeromerica.
I think someone made 2 accounts   :x
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Reply #1 on: June 12, 2008, 12:37:30 pm
FYI....aeroeuro is being operated by my brother...we don't bother our airlines. We only have identical logos for I make them for he doesn't know how to create his own using photoshop...and about our usernames..I was the one who made his account on this forum...he asked me to..ok.
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Reply #2 on: June 12, 2008, 12:41:05 pm
and how old is this so called "brother"
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Reply #3 on: June 12, 2008, 12:59:05 pm
he's 14 turning 15 this july.....why are you asking?
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Reply #4 on: June 12, 2008, 01:10:16 pm
If pyramids 3 and 5 were the same person;
Firstly, do you think he would name his airlines (and forum names) very similarly, a bit obvious?
Secondly, why would he bother to have two forum accounts, when one would suffice?
Thirdly, if you try to make another account from the same IP address, you would get the following message:

The system has spotted that this IP has registered an account previously. As a result an admin will be notified of any more accounts registered and you will be contacted in time if you continue. ...

This means the staff would know, and would have checked the situation out.
This suggests that nothing inappropriate has happened.

You also should not accuse players on the forum, but email the staff privately.


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Reply #5 on: June 12, 2008, 01:17:51 pm
I apoligise Pyramid...
Im just really tired and ive got end of semester exams tomorrow :( I think im going to go to bed.
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Reply #6 on: June 12, 2008, 01:35:41 pm
ok...I understand...just be careful on judging others next time...there is a saying that goes "dont judge a book by its cover". Remember that. =D

Hope you'll pass your exams.

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Reply #7 on: June 12, 2008, 02:21:30 pm
My thoughts on this as a member of the AM playing community. I would like to make it clear that I am not saying the user who is being accused doesn't have a brother who is playing AM, I am just going to provide another view.

First off. I would have to say AustraliaConnect was right in bringing the matter up. Many players who suspect cheating in the past have contacted the mods of AM and from there it could take two paths. My only problem is that AustraliaConnect has brought it up in public whilst also including the name of the two accounts/players he is accusing. It would have been better to email the mods at the address they keep posting every day for these sort of situations.

Quote from: "pyramids3"
FYI....aeroeuro is being operated by my brother...we don't bother our airlines. We only have identical logos for I make them for he doesn't know how to create his own using photoshop...and about our usernames..I was the one who made his account on this forum...he asked me to..ok.

"Brother" accounts come up often here at AM. In fact I remember one about a player who was claiming his 6 year old brother was on AM too. (dktc is going to love this :P). Unfortunately in my experience here, it seems that some sort of proof would have to be given and in most situations it looks rather bleak. Do remember that I am not a AM mod and am just expressing what I have actions and situations I have viewed in the passed here.

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Firstly, do you think he would name his airlines (and forum names) very similarly, a bit obvious?

He/they have names their airlines very similarly. The player who is being accused share the first word of the airlines name being "aero------" with his supposed brothers airline being "aero----". Sharing the same logo although with a different name and color scheme just backs up the point that both accounts have some sort of communality. Secondly, I dont know him so I am unable to know how smart he is. In fact, perhaps he chose those names and is making up the fake role of a brother for the reason to cheat.  Did you think of that? There just isnt any evidence to support his claim at this time and publicly available to you or I.

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Secondly, why would he bother to have two forum accounts, when one would suffice?

For the exact same reason that he might be trying to be two people. Wouldn't it look a bit suspicious when a single forum member is saying he has two AM accounts?

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Thirdly, if you try to make another account from the same IP address, you would get the following message:

The system has spotted that this IP has registered an account previously. As a result an admin will be notified of any more accounts registered and you will be contacted in time if you continue. ...

Firstly, I am wondering about how you know about that message. And Secondly we dont know if the accused player is getting those messages.

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This means the staff would know, and would have checked the situation out.
This suggests that nothing inappropriate has happened.

We dont know that. Perhaps they accidentally overlooked that? Maybe the system isnt working to alert them? I am going to say this, if the accused member has cleared it with the AM mods, I am more than sure he would have mentioned it by now.

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You also should not accuse players on the forum, but email the staff privately.

This is one point I agree one. AustraliaConnect shouldn't have accused the member in public and rather sent an email to the mods. Although I am going to give him credit for this, he created this thread to ask which is the email address to send a mod an email.

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ok...I understand...just be careful on judging others next time...there is a saying that goes "dont judge a book by its cover".

And that is a very good saying. But when one puts two and two situations/communality's and/or types together, they do judge. We judge people based on looks and appearance in everyday life and nothing on the internet changes. Look here, my post is going to be judged whether it is correct, whether I am too harsh or if I am correct. People are entitled to their own opinion whether it may be correct or not.

In the end, if this situation hasnt been noticed by the mods, this thread will make it be known. I have no doubt that someone of the AM team (thinking of someone specific here :P) will come along and either lock this thread or tell you to send an email to the proper address.

Once again, I would like to point out that I personally am not saying that this user doesnt a brother who is playing AM but also I am not saying that he does.


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Reply #8 on: June 12, 2008, 02:25:09 pm
Interesting, Very informative and knowledgeable there Maitland.


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Reply #9 on: June 12, 2008, 02:33:35 pm
Well said....

We do get a list of potential cheater but whether we have time to take care of all of them is another issue.

It is hard to get proofs that are not confidential / private, while being valid and unquestionable for such claims.

So accusing me for locking thread :P . This isn't my doing (<<-- bad liar :roll:  :lol: )
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