Maintenance Cost

[Air Elbonia]

i am working at easing these costs down, at this point a sudden and dramatic drop in maintenance costs may be overly counterproductive to measures taken to slow the game down.

sorry if progress is slow and things look bleak on that front.

oh, and to the people referencing the fuel crunch, that's a relatively recent issue.

[Blue Sky Mine]

i am working at easing these costs down, at this point a sudden and dramatic drop in maintenance costs may be overly counterproductive to measures taken to slow the game down.

sorry if progress is slow and things look bleak on that front.

oh, and to the people referencing the fuel crunch, that's a relatively recent issue.

I know that the high MX is good for the balancing. But I came back after probably 2 weeks of not playing the game and found my MX costs to have risen quite a bit. Probably you should tie the basic maintenance (for a brand new plane) to the fuel costs it produces? You could raise the fuel costs to keep the income at bay...

[Tomb]

i dont mind the maint cost so much as its made an uninteresting game more interesting, however its now bordering on the unmanageable... one hopes in the fullness of time the game will become both more manageable and more interesting

[myavia]

yeah the maintenance cost accounts for 50% of my total costs,
so easily 25% of my total revenue will go to maintenance..

i guess i'd stop buying planes for a while, and get some leased ones..just to get the right balance.
 

[Triple_7]

Fees out of whack again :shock:   Added one aircraft type (7 currently in service) to my fleet and suddenly my maintenance fees shot up an extra 200 million :shock:  I lost nearly 1/4 of my monthly income in one night :?

[bryce82]

I was profiting around 650mil a game month (450mil a game month maint Fees), I went and bought 30 747-200 to do transatlantic flights and maint fees skyrocketed more than 100%, currently my maint fees are over $1billion thats works out to $550mil increase for 30 747-200s. $18,333,333 per plane... so i went from making a profit of $650mil a day to trying to sell these 747s and turning the red... losing $200mil a day now. Thats RIDICULOUS. If i scrap all my 747s my airline value will drop about $10bil.

So here's my question, if the planes are not being used and are ust sitting in the aircraft market for sale, do they actually cost anything in maintenance?

[pseudoswede]

So here's my question, if the planes are not being used and are ust sitting in the aircraft market for sale, do they actually cost anything in maintenance?

Any plane with an "In Service" (or "Leased Out" or "For Sale") status will incur a maintenance fee, regardless if it's flying 0 or 100 routes.

[fenati2]

I still dont know if comonality affects the mantainance costs.

If i work only 737-300 will my costs be lower than if i operate 737-300 and A320's for example?

what about operating different versions of planes. like 767-200/ER/300?

[Mega Ark]

whats needed is under aircraft info next to profit is its maint cost so you can judge which planes are unecomnomic on which routes

since profit is misleading and is not profit at all unless costs are taken out and maint is a cost

This is a positive suggestion that I support and should be relatively simple to implement.  It is critical for proper fleet and route management.

[Air Elbonia]

Under present format, commonality has no bearing.  The database does not always have the clearest way to know that there's high commonality between 767-200s with Engines A and B, as well as with the 767-200ER.  it'll either misfire and pull in uncommon elements (such as code-mistaking 737-3's and 7X7-3's as being common) or it'll miss elements that it shouldn't.

Stephen is, last I knew, tinkering with the formulaic basis for a revamp to maintenance.  This will incorporate some fleet commonality levels (i.e. lighter Boeing or Airbus wide commonality discounts) as well as an implementation of cycles/etc.  

We're hoping to better implement some way to tell the database which are which in terms of fleet commonality, however at the moment we're planning for possibilities without this piece of extra information.

[Cheung Airlines]

Under present format, commonality has no bearing.  The database does not always have the clearest way to know that there's high commonality between 767-200s with Engines A and B, as well as with the 767-200ER.  it'll either misfire and pull in uncommon elements (such as code-mistaking 737-3's and 7X7-3's as being common) or it'll miss elements that it shouldn't.

Stephen is, last I knew, tinkering with the formulaic basis for a revamp to maintenance.  This will incorporate some fleet commonality levels (i.e. lighter Boeing or Airbus wide commonality discounts) as well as an implementation of cycles/etc.  

We're hoping to better implement some way to tell the database which are which in terms of fleet commonality, however at the moment we're planning for possibilities without this piece of extra information.

May be this formula can also reduce the staff needed for training and therefore reduce the staff cost.

[StephenM]

The staff element of maintenance has already been added. This is direct staff, training I assume you mean to be training of engineers/mechanics?

[Cheung Airlines]

Hmmm....
Yes, maybe....

[Kerdmass]

Ok, now this is just getting silly.

W6

~30 763ERs arrive, taking the place of almost my entire 747 fleet (other than ones with routes > than max 763ER range); with leftovers replacing 762ERs on long routes.

Then, the 762ERs open new routes

Used 747s placed on sale block, some sell, some havent.

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1/10/1988 Monthly Maintenance Fees €0 €5,339,153,611
1/11/1988 Monthly Maintenance Fees €0 €5,663,297,432


Only a few other planes gained a year.

I have a very hard time believing that each plane adds ~11m in maintainance per month.

Even accounting for a large number of current planes aging; an additional ~11m per brand new plane is outrageous.  And this isnt the first time this game month where i've had a >200m monthly maintainance jump after adding planes.

[SkinnyRabbit]

Ok, now this is just getting silly.

W6

~30 763ERs arrive, taking the place of almost my entire 747 fleet (other than ones with routes > than max 763ER range); with leftovers replacing 762ERs on long routes.

Then, the 762ERs open new routes

Used 747s placed on sale block, some sell, some havent.

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1/10/1988 Monthly Maintenance Fees €0 €5,339,153,611
1/11/1988 Monthly Maintenance Fees €0 €5,663,297,432


Only a few other planes gained a year.

I have a very hard time believing that each plane adds ~11m in maintainance per month.

Even accounting for a large number of current planes aging; an additional ~11m per brand new plane is outrageous.  And this isnt the first time this game month where i've had a >200m monthly maintainance jump after adding planes.

Thats why you stick with cheaper but high quality planes to fly with.