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What's Your DOP?

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Reply #240 on: January 13, 2008, 11:52:04 pm
told ya this would happen...

pre-737: ~$360,000
post-737: $846,037 :D


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Reply #241 on: January 14, 2008, 12:14:33 am
Quote from: "nwaboy"
told ya this would happen...

pre-737: ~$360,000
post-737: $846,037 :D

Here's some tough competition :wink:

Pre Boeing-€1.1mil
Post Boeing-€1.4mil

 :lol: I beat you there.
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Reply #242 on: January 14, 2008, 12:53:27 am
told ya this would happen...

pre-737: ~$360,000
post-737: $846,037 Very Happy

Hahahaha, you have a DOP that low and you saved up for a 737?  Just so you know, that's probably the weakest growth strategy that I've seen in the game.  Assuming that you get 20 days of profit per month, you could have added 5 $7 short range planes before you even ordered the 737.  Assuming that you get $150k (highly conservative) for each one of these planes, you have lost...

(5+4+3+2+1) * 20 * $150k or $45,000,000 in profit to this point.  Also, you'd be at $1,100,000+ DOP right now excluding what you'd have by using that $45M in profit to lease planes and increase your profit.  

As a small airline tying up capital instead of leveraging yourself leads you to abysmal growth, not to mention boredom as you have nothing to do for days while you save up.

I don't think I ordered a 737 until I had a DOP of $20M


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Reply #243 on: January 14, 2008, 02:24:46 am
I do have to agree that saving up for a 737 at this stage is a very poor strategy if one is looking for dop growth.  Each to their own though as every player has their own goals and objectives for this game.


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Reply #244 on: January 14, 2008, 02:25:25 am
its exponential.  i waited forever to get a 737, now i have to wait only half as long, next time 1/4 as long, etc.


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Reply #245 on: January 14, 2008, 03:54:02 am
Exponential?  Sure.  Perhaps you might want to listen to those who have a higher DOP than the 737 you so covet.  I just explained how you lost $45M you could have had and you are making a much smaller amount with it than you would have otherwise.  Everyone else has the same exponential growth as you are.  The difference is, I just overed 6 of the advanced 737's and will order 6-12 more tomorrow morning.  You will have enough for it in a few days.  Who do you think has the better strategy?

Good luck with it.  By the time you get a decent DOP, all of the routes will be completely saturated.

Instead of focusing on your false exponential growth idea, I'd focus more on the time value of money and opportunity cost of tying capital up in non-revenue generating ventures.


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Reply #246 on: January 14, 2008, 03:56:01 am
$1837552

Fairly good I think personally.


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Reply #247 on: January 14, 2008, 04:43:15 am
Quote from: "nwaboy"
its exponential.  i waited forever to get a 737, now i have to wait only half as long, next time 1/4 as long, etc.


BTW, that's not exponential  :wink:


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Reply #248 on: January 14, 2008, 06:19:04 am
Quote from: "nwaboy"
its exponential.  i waited forever to get a 737, now i have to wait only half as long, next time 1/4 as long, etc.


and still, the plane is the wrong choice :)
(apart from the whole math issue pointed out by others, which is also "not as true as you make it out" ;( )
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Reply #249 on: January 14, 2008, 09:50:30 am
When I ordered my first 737, I did saved up. At that time I got many leased planes that still had hours available. But by the time I ordered my second 737, I didn't save up.

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Reply #250 on: January 14, 2008, 09:59:55 am
Same with me. I saved up for a 737-200, Caravelles and HS-748s  and now I come back to the computer after a few hours to find around 50-100 million more than  what I left with! Ordered my first 727-200 for main trunk routes now.
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Reply #251 on: January 14, 2008, 10:04:54 am
DOP 710k

Doing pretty good with 78% load  :roll:

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Reply #252 on: January 14, 2008, 10:30:06 am
Only €710,000? I expect more from you JPS.. :P

I'm at €6,242,315
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Reply #253 on: January 14, 2008, 10:32:47 am
Let me correct that...

7100k.. 7.1M  :lol:  sorry

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Reply #254 on: January 14, 2008, 10:39:19 am
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Let me correct that...

7100k.. 7.1M  :lol:  sorry

Ah. I forgive you then. :lol:

Do i get a cheap plane for tat mistake? :D
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