Realistic World?

[pilotguy121a]

Not an invitation but rather a poll to see if anyone would be interested in this...

So one major issue with this game is that it goes to fast. Within the course of 2 real weeks you can be making 40million in a game day. One reason why this is, I believe, is the 1 frequency trip, having 1 plane fly to 5 different destinations. While it is the quickest way to make money in this game, it is severely unrealistic in most cases. I want to create a world in which we create the utmost realistic airline possible.
For Example:
-Using at REALISTIC frequency
---What I mean is that if you have a 737-700 going from ORD to ATL, NO airline would run that once a day. Neither should we. More like 4-5 times daily.
-Standardizing your fleets
---I see it all to often, people buy 1 of every airplane possible. NO airline would ever do that. There is no benefit to it in game but this is about realism.
-Using reasonably sized aircraft for a particular route
---Using a CRJ-200LR on a route from ORD to ATL would be somewhat unrealistic, so in this world it should be avoided

So the reason I'm asking if this sounds enjoyable is because it would a world with a password to detour those who wouldn't read the rules. This world is meant to accommodate suggestions and issues that I've seen and experience while playing.

Some more details would be:
-1mill starting cash
-5 years; 2005-2010
-8 domestic/2 foreign
-Starting A/C would either be 5xRegionals or 3xA319 (or similar)

Post suggestions or if you would be open to the idea of this.

[Mastafa]

lol This is the first time I saw StephenM reading a Private world invitation


Sorry, can't join now cause I joined too many worlds already

[pilotguy121a]

Thats fine, it won't be for a while. I mean i already have enough tokens, but I want a lot of interest and people to say yes before I spend them. 

[Vamerica]

Id be up for something like that. Maybe a few more years, but if not, that's not a problem. You got me in. I vote A319

[1993matias]

I'd like to play with, but I'm already in three other worlds, so I don't really have time... But if I have, sure, I'll join! And I vote for the regionals.

The bases should be realistic. Not bases spread over the whole world, e.g. in AMS, ATL, Sidney and Tokyo. Stay in your region, e.g. AMS, FRA, LHR. Maybe just stick to your country? Airlines like British don't have bases outside GB; on the other hand, airlines like SAS has bases in Denmark, Norway ans Sweden.
So i.e. this suggestion suggests to keep the bases to the local area. Whatever the local area is Luxembourg or Scandinavia.

[Virgin Serbia]

-Standardizing your fleets
---I see it all to often, people buy 1 of every airplane possible. NO airline would ever do that. There is no benefit to it in game but this is about realism.

Air China would like to disagree:

http://airfleets.net/flottecie/Air%20China.htm

737 Classics + 737 NG + A32X + 757
767 + A330-200
A330-300 + 777-200 + A340
747-400 + 777-300ER

And lets not forget Delta:
737NG + A32X + 757
ERJ + CRJ
767 + A332
772 + A333. 

Aeroflot:
A32X + 737NG + MS-21
767 + A330 + 787+ A350 + 777 + Il-96
An-148 + SSJ

SAS:
MD-80 + 737 Classic + 737NG + A32X + MD-90 (at one point)
CRJ-900/DHC-8-Q400 + Fokker 50

Koreanair at one point operated all of the following at the same time:
747-100, -200, -300, -400, A300B4, A300-600R, A330, 777, MD11

[pilotguy121a]

You misunderstood what I said, which was fairly easy to do considering the way I typed it out. Let me clarify:
I've seen on numerous occasions airlines using the following:
1xA319
1xA319LR
1x737-700
1x737-700HGW
1xKFC
1xCRJ-900
1xERJ-175STD
1xBeech 1900
...
...
...

Hopefully that is a bit more clear.
But, Delta acquired Northwest's Airbuses, they didn't operate Airbus before the merger.

Anyway, I wouldn't kick you out for having to many different a/c, that would be ridiculous.

1993matias, I see your point! However, people seem to enjoy creating mega airlines and I fear that it would only hinder people who would like to join.


 

[StephenM]

The bases should be realistic. Not bases spread over the whole world, e.g. in AMS, ATL, Sidney and Tokyo.

Set foreign focus cities to 0 in the world configuration and you can protect against this.

[AirbusGuy350]

I would like to join world like this but I have quite a few airlines that won't end until late march.

[CornField]

I like the concept of the idea.   WAAAYYYY back when, the type of play you are talking about did occur...


But I will present some counter-points to your arguments...



Standardizing your fleets....

Take a look at Aeroflot's historic fleet.  They operated every type of Soviet built aircraft...
For a more modern example... Era Alaska.  They operate a VERY diverse fleet for such a small airline.  Their web page shows 8 types of aircraft, and I know they operate at least one or two more types not shown.

Yes, these are two of the more specialist airlines out there but they do meet your criteria.

Reasonably sized aircraft...

I will be glad to use your chosen route pairings...

ORD-ATL
I have ridden both CRJ-200's and ERJ-140's on this route.  At the time neither United(CRJ) or AA(ERJ) wanted to invest much capacity on this route, but needed to maintain a presence to preserve their high end passengers and business contracts..  To be honest I have flown the Canadian Crippler(CRJ-1/2) to most of the major US business markets from ORD on United/AA/Delta.


Until there is a coded-in competitive disadvantage for too few frequencies, you will not see players adopt a reasonable frequency model.  I would love to see a more 'feeder-based' idea of play though.  The concept of an Airbus model landing at an airport with 4k annual passengers just is not a realistic one.

[Virgin Serbia]

How about you create a game with a password, and only allow those of us with more experience join? Mastafa, Mathias, AirbusGuy and me etc. would all be able to abide by the rules set. Just PM the password to those of us who a regulars on the forum.

[Vamerica]

Love how I wasn't included in that "experience" group. Lol.

[Vamerica]

But continuing on with what I was talking about with the time, I'm not sure the world would be long enough for some of the planes we may have. I have the plan of only operating A319/A320 and with this way of realistic type, I don't see me growing very much in that time with this frequency. But that's just my suggestion. My other is Cornfield and Stephen should join ; ) Cornfield could open United Sky Group! : P

[pilotguy121a]

The whole point of this world would be to emulate real world airlines. Thats it. Everyone is getting caught up on the examples I listed as "rules" they are not meant to be. More of a guideline.

There was a world a while back that was devoted to REAL WORLD AIRLINES. I love that concept but it would defeat the purpose of creating your own airline. I'll list a few more examples of a routes that would be realistic, at least IMO.
ORD-ATL
737-900HGW with 3xFrequency
or
CRJ-700 with 6xFrequency
or
757-200 with 2xFrequency
or
A321-200 with 3xFrequency
ATL-LAX
739HGW with Max Frequency
or
CRJ-700 with Max Frequency
or
767-300 with Max Frequency

Hopefully this will illustrate my point a bit more clearly. Foreign bases will be dropped to just ONE. Domestic bases will then be dropped to 6. I don't deny that legacy carriers operate small a/c to large airports, but the key difference between them an AM is the frequency at which they do so. It more than makes up for their smaller a/c. Plus they most likely use more than 1 a/c on that route, further enhancing their capacity on that route.

Password will be on but not sure if i want to limit this world by just a few players.

[Virgin Serbia]

Love how I wasn't included in that "experience" group. Lol.

Don't worry, you fit the requirements as well But there are far too many regulars on these forums for me to remember all names