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Daily maintenance shot up to 50m, from 21m!!

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Reply #15 on: September 19, 2009, 05:18:53 pm
1/6/2005 Monthly Maintenance Fees €0 €1,228,527,972
1/7/2005 Monthly Maintenance Fees €0 €460,898,270

That's what really happen in my private world (with ATE24 and kcclieou actually 8)).
I just kept on replacing my old planes, but suddenly the value dropped like London Bridge.
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Reply #16 on: September 19, 2009, 05:21:55 pm
1/6/2005 Monthly Maintenance Fees €0 €1,228,527,972
1/7/2005 Monthly Maintenance Fees €0 €460,898,270

That's what really happen in my private world (with ATE24 and kcclieou actually 8)).
I just kept on replacing my old planes, but suddenly the value dropped like London Bridge.
OK that's enough man, you are getting on my and kcclieou's nerve... ???

We are not that happy to know you got rid of 60% maint. :(
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Reply #17 on: September 20, 2009, 01:55:03 pm
1/6/2005 Monthly Maintenance Fees €0 €1,228,527,972
1/7/2005 Monthly Maintenance Fees €0 €460,898,270

That's what really happen in my private world (with ATE24 and kcclieou actually 8)).
I just kept on replacing my old planes, but suddenly the value dropped like London Bridge.
OK that's enough man, you are getting on my and kcclieou's nerve... ???

We are not that happy to know you got rid of 60% maint. :(
You only have one nerve?


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Reply #18 on: September 26, 2009, 03:52:57 pm
The formula isn't perfect, but I cannot really comment on a case by case basis unless I start pulling data on each persons fleet and number crunch it that way.

Okay, so I will present a real example here.



I own a fleet of 297 aircraft, including 11 A330-200's, 17 B767-200ER's, 18 A321-100's, 39 A320-200's, 110 A319's, 28 A319LR's, 7 B777-200 ER VIP's, 26 E170's and 37 E190's. Some of the aircraft (especially the A320 series and the widebodies) are on average quite new, as I commenced plans to replace old aircraft over the past game year.

In particular, the following aircraft were scrapped and replaced in the past few months, mostly between the 19th and 20th of the month concerned:

Jul 2006: 3 A319's, 3 A320's, 4 A321's
Aug 2006: 9 A319's, 2 A320's
Sep 2006: 9 A319's
Oct 2006: none
Nov 2006: none

Yet my maintenance cost increases steadily over these months, apparently independent of the number of aircrafts replaced over the previous month. (I mean, the fact that maintenance expenses are on the rise is not itself a problem; the pace of the increase vis-a-vis aircraft replacement is THE problem.) This appears to be quite strange.
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Reply #19 on: September 28, 2009, 02:39:57 am
It seems that not only one person that is affected.
Perhaps there's something wrong with the MX formula.
Really hope to hear something from Admins   ???


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Reply #20 on: September 30, 2009, 07:28:00 am
I've found something really interesting... (after an inspiration by im359)

As a usual (but both useless and hopeless) routine on the aircraft replacement, I bought 5 A319-131 as well as 2 A320-232 2 days ago.
And today the new shiny aircrafts arrived :D, so I started my work (again).

Before I scrapped 7 old planes half an hour ago, I loaded the statistic page of A319:

Yes, the guy that holds 130 A319s is me. And the page keeps opening over the last 30 minutes.

Then I scrapped them before the end of that day:

Pretty a lot.
*Ar btw, Google Chrome DOES perform better than Firefox when I need to re-open a lot of routes, I strongly suggest it to you guys.

Afterward im359 told me at MSN that he found a lot of planes are holding by Nobody Company, then I checked the statistic page of A319 again:

I hold 125 A319s now, correct.

But the problem is, why Nobody Company gets 5 more A319s?
Didn't the scrapped aircrafts disappear immediately?

Altogether I scrapped 71 A319s over the past 2 years, if they all went to Nobody Company, then I really "contributed" a lot to it.
I wonder if the situation worsens my maintenance... ^-^
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Reply #21 on: September 30, 2009, 09:03:21 am
Something might have got messed up with the exclusion of the brokers from rankings. I'll take a look into that issue.
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Reply #22 on: October 01, 2009, 06:06:40 am
Something might have got messed up with the exclusion of the brokers from rankings. I'll take a look into that issue.
why the plane not just simply destory, if there is not broker in the world?
Or, if the world has no broker, the maint of those planes will be paid by players??? :-\
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Reply #23 on: October 01, 2009, 10:11:50 am
why the plane not just simply destory, if there is not broker in the world?
Or, if the world has no broker, the maint of those planes will be paid by players??? :-\

A certain percentage already get destroyed instead of going to a broker. If there is no broker then the planes are destroyed.
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Reply #24 on: October 19, 2009, 06:38:08 pm
why the plane not just simply destory, if there is not broker in the world?
Or, if the world has no broker, the maint of those planes will be paid by players??? :-\

A certain percentage already get destroyed instead of going to a broker. If there is no broker then the planes are destroyed.

Stephen, this is also happening in the world I'm in (PW 882) with phantom entities holding supposedly scrapped aircraft in the Aircraft Rankings.

BTW, on the maintenance issue: if and when you consider revamping that script, is there a way to provide a discount if you're operating fleets with interchangeable engines? E.g. someone operating A319/320/321 all with CFM engines should have lower maintenance costs than someone who has a mixed fleet with IAE and CFM engines. Likewise, crew costs should be lower for someone who operates aircraft with common type rating (e.g. 757/767 or A330/340) as compared to someone who operates unrelated types of aircraft. Just an idea...


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Reply #25 on: October 19, 2009, 09:10:53 pm
BTW, on the maintenance issue: if and when you consider revamping that script, is there a way to provide a discount if you're operating fleets with interchangeable engines? E.g. someone operating A319/320/321 all with CFM engines should have lower maintenance costs than someone who has a mixed fleet with IAE and CFM engines. Likewise, crew costs should be lower for someone who operates aircraft with common type rating (e.g. 757/767 or A330/340) as compared to someone who operates unrelated types of aircraft. Just an idea...

With regard to maintenance, there were allocations put in for commonality in the new formula based on aircraft type and manufacturer. At the time there was no back end setup for aircraft "families" however this wouldn't be impossible.

The engine families are however a different story, engines in AM are very primitive in terms of their function and role. It would take a good bit of work in order to overhaul the engines and create a full engine "system". One of the benefits of this however could be the ability to re-engine aircraft, replace engines, etc. It would allow for greater flexibility such as with maintenance commonality and greater statistical information. Changing the way engines function in AM is not a near priority however.
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