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General Chat / Concerning €1 Routes
« on: January 16, 2008, 02:43:06 am »
Quote from: "waerth"
Quote from: "nwaboy"

ill still be playing, btw, no matter what people like those two do.

Like Pacific said, this is a competitive game.  If you don't like competitiveness, LEAVE!!

Welcome to the airline industry.  :D


I am sorry but that is a very bad attitude. I like competitiveness, I do not like people ruining a game. Ruining a game because you can has nothing to do with competitiveness. It is more like bullying.

And if this game resembles the aircraft industry ....... it doesn't come close. All this game is about is about who can create routes fastest and who can plonk planes on them fastest.

But I will take your advice and leave. I will be selling all of my planes shortly, keep a watch on the aircraft market.

Waerth


I think the most healthy thing you could do for the game is perhaps slide the planes into some bully's markets, peg the fare at 1Euro, and then leave (Ill be right behind you).  Perhaps this will bring some glimmer to them of the realities.

As for the rest who say whiners/complainers do not know the airline industry....Ive been in it for 20 Years.

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General Chat / Concerning €1 Routes
« on: January 15, 2008, 06:59:19 am »
Quote from: LOT 737-300
Quote from: bad_kelpie
Quote from: "Pacific"


Pleasurable history lesson, thanks....but if the only fun in the game is to create red blobs over the map, then why have a 'decades' era?  Just the aircraft types?  Even that doesnt wash as so many just built up fleets of incompatible aircraft that would never really work.  I dont see Southwest flying a Tupolev here and a Boeing there.....no.  The fun for many of us comes in creating a comprehensible route structure, pure fleets, and a logo/theme to match.

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General Chat / Concerning €1 Routes
« on: January 15, 2008, 05:08:28 am »
Quote from: "Pacific"
The airline industry and pretty much any other industry under the free market economy is competitive.

Airline Mogul is a competitive game.  I jumped into underserved focus cities and "moderately" dumped capacity.


If you want to be a know it all with your free-market BS, why are we so equally allowed to enter PRC, Communist-era Soviet Union and Cuba?

Puhlleeeze.  This is hardly a real-world scenario so stop spouting real world B.S.   You undercut by hundreds of $'s almost every route you enter.....proving that the industry I have worked in for 20 years is purely unsustainable with this type of reckless behaviour.

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General Chat / Concerning €1 Routes
« on: January 15, 2008, 01:52:29 am »
Quote from: "Pacific"
The airline industry and pretty much any other industry under the free market economy is competitive.

Airline Mogul is a competitive game.  I jumped into underserved focus cities and "moderately" dumped capacity.


Um well, I know that is not true.  :roll:

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General Chat / Concerning €1 Routes
« on: January 15, 2008, 12:52:57 am »
Quote from: "Pacific"
Quote from: "bad_kelpie"
Should Moderators be participating in 1 Euro death spiral?

Pacific.  You seem to be driving fares down to 1 Euro in all markets.  Your goal?  What is your incentive to not only be a Moderator (hopefully inclined to support an enjoyable game) but to be driving prices down to 1 Euro?

I don't have a single €1 route.  If I'm undercutting by €30 or so on a very crowded route, I'm doing the accelerated price drop strategy.
http://www.stephenm.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4358

Another note.  Moderators are only responsible for moderating the forums.  In the game itself, moderators are the same as any other player and is allowed to do anything within the rules, including but not restricted to dumping 5x 747s to kill a route.


Well, when you hop into a market where the competitors have managed to do fine for weeks, and then every couple hours drop your route by 30Euros....it ends up in the 1Euro direction.  Your strategy is short-lived and foolish.  If fun is the name of the game, then I think AM is losing its outlook.  

Also your crowded routes are just that.....crowded.  How does your airline help anyone?   As for rules, if we want to be realistic.....Hub and spoke routings never really existed to this extent before.  Just trapping players into domiciles is pretty false.

Take UA.  The 'mainline' was just that a series of flights across the US from coast to coast.  In the 50's scenario we were all on the hub and spoke system?   :roll:

I guess I will just play the game as repetitive lowering of fares.  Little dull if you ask me.

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General Chat / Concerning €1 Routes
« on: January 14, 2008, 10:59:11 pm »
Should Moderators be participating in 1 Euro death spiral?

Pacific.  You seem to be driving fares down to 1 Euro in all markets.  Your goal?  What is your incentive to not only be a Moderator (hopefully inclined to support an enjoyable game) but to be driving prices down to 1 Euro?

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General Chat / Tag flights?
« on: November 28, 2007, 06:13:30 pm »
AH!

Got it.  Thanks for explaining.  Much appreciated!

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General Chat / Tag flights?
« on: November 28, 2007, 05:07:48 pm »
Tag flights meaning a flight that will enter one destination, while then continuing onto a further destination (one that would out-distance the aircraft).  Real-time tag flights might be like QF SYD-LAX-JFK, etc.

For example:   MaitlandAir - MII

This airline ranks #2 currently in Australasia in-game.

Check out the route structure.  Routes originate Australia-South America-Florida

These look like 'tag' flights to me, but perhaps are refuel stops etc.  I cant seem to find information on this.....

Thanks!

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General Chat / Tag flights?
« on: November 28, 2007, 06:05:20 am »
HI.

I cant seem to find out how 'tag flights' are created in order to accomplish very thin routes.

Ive done 'search' but the word 'tag' brings up a dizzying array of postings.

Thanks!

-Jackalope Airways
 JPE



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