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General Chat / 1975 reset

« on: February 13, 2008, 03:43:11 am »

OMG :cry: ....i'm just starting up my airlines....

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General Chat / Army

« on: February 13, 2008, 02:05:00 am »

Quote from: "OAAir"

Quote from: "gagahput3ra"
Have you watch the movie "Jarhead"? It's from real life story about marine who serve in Iraq on the first dessert storm operation. And there's part of the movie where there's some media who come to Iraq to interview the marine, then the sergeant tell them not to tell any truth but only say something full of spirit and supporting the nation. The dialogue gone like this :

Kruger: This is censorship.
Sgt. Siek: This is what?
Kruger: Censorship. You're telling us what we can and can't say to the press. Thats un-American.
Anthony 'Swoff' Swofford: Yeah, what about freedom of speech? The Constitution?
Sgt. Siek: No you signed a contract. You don't have any rights. You got any complaints you complain to Saddam Insane and see if he gives a *cabbage*.
Kruger: Why that's exactly what Saddam Hussein does. You're treating us the same way.
Sgt. Siek: You are a marine. There is no such thing as speech that is free. You must pay for everything you say.

LOL Any organization, any job - this same basic tenet holds true. I cannot badmouth the organization I work for without having to worry about the consequences. When you sign a contract, as you do when you join the military, you agree to certain rules and restrictions. In the US, if you don't agree to the rules, you certainly do not have to sign up. It's that simple. But if you agree to them, then you have no right to complain when they infringe upon your desire to do what you want. The First Amendment only says that Congress shall pass no law abridging one's freedom of speech. It does not mean that a contract - a legal, binding document entered into voluntarily by two parties - cannot place restrictions on those freedoms. Also, keep in the mind that the intent of the Constitution is to limit the power of government, not to guarantee rights and freedoms.

The other thing, 'Jarhead' was a movie, not a documentary. The fact that it was presented that way indicates that there has been some embellishment and, with as with any embellishment, an introduction of a bias - the setting up of two parties as the antagonist and protagonist. It makes for a much better story. To see what I mean, watch a documentary on D-Day and then watch the movie 'The Longest Day.' They both are based on the same event, but you get a much different picture as you watch each.

I agree with you, Jarhead might be a movie, but it based on a book by real life marine named Swofford. Yes, it might be bias and subjective, but what i want to simbolize by using Jarhead quotes is not "that contract is unbelieveable" or "that contract is only exist in army", but i try to simbolize the rules that is really exist in military system,that is censorship.

In the last darthrobby's post, he said he just saw "a show that showed a hospital full of iraq vets with missing legs that said they wanted to go back". In almost every military system in the world, what army said from their mouth is already being censored and filtered. That's why i don't want him to believe that every soldier with missing legs want to get back to war and fight after they loose their legs.

Movies always gonna be biased. Even documentary like Fahrenheit 9/11 contains with message that the director want to pass to its viewer. While that facts remain the same on every movies, the facts inside a movies will always be true. And i know, i'm sure you know too, that censorship is exist in military

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General Chat / What song do you listen to at the moment

« on: February 13, 2008, 12:55:35 am »

Yesterday i watch movie called "Once" after i download it from Torrents and the music is MINDBLOOOOWING

God damn...i never knew someone name Glen Hansard from The Frames exist and creating such music :?

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General Chat / Army

« on: February 13, 2008, 12:53:29 am »

Quote from: "DarthRobby"

oh my gosh, i know i wont go out there and never be wounded or killed or lose limbs, i just saw a show that showed a hospital full of iraq vets with missing legs, they all said they wanted to go back, and they were sad they couldn't fight without two hands!
i know it isnt fun and games, it is something i feel i need to do, and thank you boilermaker for being one of the few people who read the first post and didnt try to stop me without reading anything else

Have you watch the movie "Jarhead"? It's from real life story about marine who serve in Iraq on the first dessert storm operation. And there's part of the movie where there's some media who come to Iraq to interview the marine, then the sergeant tell them not to tell any truth but only say something full of spirit and supporting the nation. The dialogue gone like this :

Kruger: This is censorship.
Sgt. Siek: This is what?
Kruger: Censorship. You're telling us what we can and can't say to the press. Thats un-American.
Anthony 'Swoff' Swofford: Yeah, what about freedom of speech? The Constitution?
Sgt. Siek: No you signed a contract. You don't have any rights. You got any complaints you complain to Saddam Insane and see if he gives a *cabbage*.
Kruger: Why that's exactly what Saddam Hussein does. You're treating us the same way.
Sgt. Siek: You are a marine. There is no such thing as speech that is free. You must pay for everything you say.

Pretty much the same on every countries. What you see in tv and in real life are a very different things. But, i also agree that you have to do something that you enjoy doing it. So if you think army's a good option for your future, then do it

. And make sure you do it your best

.

Oh, btw...please don't say losing a limb or get killed like a simple thing. You don't know how's it like when you lose your body parts. I have friend who only have one leg, and yes maybe he run his life full of spirit, but it's not that easy.....

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General Chat / Favourite Airline livery?

« on: February 12, 2008, 11:06:02 pm »

My Favorite :
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Garuda-Indonesia/Garuda-Indonesia/1114510&photo_nr=22&prev_id=0583803&next_id=1145368&size=L

and this (probably the nicest hybrid livery

, from my opinion) :

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Garuda-Indonesia-(Thomsonfly/Garuda-Indonesia-(Thomsonfly/1011453/L

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Garuda-Indonesia-(Britannia/Garuda-Indonesia-(Britannia/1095607/L

Anyway, my favorite still all Garuda Indonesia livery! Nationalism rules!

Why is the link broken :?

EDIT : Just copy the link and paste it to your browser...i don't understand why the link's broken

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General Chat / FSX or FS9 or FSwhat?

« on: February 12, 2008, 12:41:03 am »

FS 2004
Lots of add-ons and freeware (i hate payware

)

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General Chat / Your goal for this round

« on: February 11, 2008, 11:41:47 pm »

I updated my goal...i want to be in the top 50 of Asia before this round ends

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General Chat / Re: Army

« on: February 11, 2008, 04:10:48 am »

Quote from: "DarthRobby"

Hey, i haven't been on for a long time, but is anyone here in the army/military? if so, how did you convince your parents to let you join (i know you can join with out their support, but it would be no fun to go in without family support)
btw, i am only 13 (almost 14), but i really want to do this, i know that because a while ago i really wanted a business, and i got myself one (kinda)

:shock: Joining army has no fun at all, even with family support (at least from my opinion). I respect army, they are very loyal to their country and want to defend their nation in the first line of defense

...but i think there's a lot more option to defend your country than joining army. How about learning well and become something that will make your nation proud of you?

i think it's the same thing as joining army, but with no stupid war

(no offense to army

)

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General Chat / Alesha or Ally?

« on: February 11, 2008, 12:16:09 am »

Sam, watch out

Alesha sounds more like blond to me, so i choose her

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General Chat / Which Decade would you like the next round to be in?

« on: February 10, 2008, 11:04:37 pm »

Quote from: "iranair777"

Quote from: "Seattle"
Quote from: "iranair777"
bring on the 80's and the change in aircraft manufacturing!
yes

Wow, probably the first ever person to agree with something I say... ever!

80's fine baby

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