Airline Mogul Forum
Airline Mogul => Game Strategy => Topic started by: ashuji on February 04, 2011, 08:28:36 am
-
Airline ID: 39535
World ID: Public World #1841
Current world year: June 1993
Current bases: Beijing Capital International / Hong Kong - Chek Lap Kok
DOC: € 17,899,943
Forum code: Airline Mogul - See my airline (http://www.airlinemogul.com/airlinemogul/show_airline.php?id=39535&wid=1841)
Goals: Top 10 ranking , airline value.
As this is my first FULL world in the real sense, I need some suggestions about the way I feel like playing here.
- I plan to operate mostly A/c with over 400 speed , is that viable ?
- Bombardier CRJ-100LR for < 2 mil Pax cities.
- Fokker F28 Fellowship 4000/6000 for 2-8 mil Pax cities
- Fokker 100's for > 8 mil Pax cities
Assumptions :
- The above mentioned cities are in the A/c range
- F-100's to be replaced by better/ bigger A/c for > 15 mil cities when it is affordable.
There is minimal competition atm, 1-2 competitors with 70+ seater ATR's or BAe ATP's or smaller A/c.
I have read time and again that ATR's or BAe ATP's are very profitable, but TBH I dont feel like doing so many routes on numerous small A/c's.
Could you all kindly have a look at my airline and tell me :
- if its possible to do without ATR's or BAe ATP's .
- are the Pax limits correct that I have set for these A/c's.
- Can F-100's be the mainstay of my airline for the next 1-2 game year ?
Hope to recieve similar guidance as I have done in the past.
-
The CRJ is much too small to use in PEK. You need a minimum of 70pax aircraft to any airport ex-PEK. That is why the ATP is such a great plane, especially for under 10M.
-
@ pseudoswede :
Thank you for clarifying .
I too feel CRJ's a bit small , so I will be operating the following for < 10 mil pax cities :
1) BAe ATP's : < 920 NM
2) Fokker F28 / 6000 : 920 >1352 ( specially the large cities < 10 mil)
3) ATR 72-200 920 < 1657 ( the F28 leftovers)
Another A/c coming to mind is Antonov An-74 (Seats68 / Speed 377 / Range 2733 / Price €21,915,728) and the KFC one coming next year.
-
@ pseudoswede :
Thank you for clarifying .
I too feel CRJ's a bit small , so I will be operating the following for < 10 mil pax cities :
1) BAe ATP's : < 920 NM
2) Fokker F28 / 6000 : 920 >1352 ( specially the large cities < 10 mil)
3) ATR 72-200 920 < 1657 ( the F28 leftovers)
Another A/c coming to mind is Antonov An-74 (Seats68 / Speed 377 / Range 2733 / Price €21,915,728) and the KFC one coming next year.
KFC? Kennedy Friend ChickN? LOL!
-
Antonov-74 are great together with the KFC-5800.
The An-74 is a mix between a jet and a turboprop, in essence it's a cheap, slow jet (or expensive, fast turboprop).
KFC: Kelowna Flightcraft Group; the KFC-5800 is really a refurbished, stretched and re-engined Srs-580
-
Antonov-74 are great together with the KFC-5800.
The An-74 is a mix between a jet and a turboprop, in essence it's a cheap, slow jet (or expensive, fast turboprop).
It's SLOOOOW! And rather expensive considering how slow it is. 1993, is the Chinese 60 seat turboprop out yet? How about the Avro jets?
-
The best will be Fokker 70. Avro planes are slow.
-
I created a base at london gatwick, and i am loving the way ATP's/ F-28 are minting money.
I need to ask you all about the most profitable A/c as per your experience ,for routes from Gatwick to other 20 mil + cities in Europe .
One needs to keep in mind that most of the big cities are closely situated ( within a few hundred NM's or even closer) and the high turn times taken by A/c which literally grows with the seating capacity.
There are a few competitors who are running ATR's/ ATP's or F 28's mostly, but bigger A/c are expected sooner or later.
.
For the short term I have F-100's available, which i shall be using on these routes.
-
There is no "most profitable aircraft". Try aircraft search, it is a great tool - just like gate search.
Right now, I would say Fokker 100 (cheap and fast), MD-80's (big, decent range, cheap for its class) or A320 (big, fast)
-
There is no "most profitable aircraft". Try aircraft search, it is a great tool - just like gate search.
Right now, I would say Fokker 100 (cheap and fast), MD-80's (big, decent range, cheap for its class) or A320 (big, fast)
Thanks a lot for the trouble you took to help me out.
I do use the A/c search functions alongwith other game tools.
The thing is, the big cites are mostly under 1000 Nm from Gatwick -Heathrow is just 26 Nm away- so I dont need the range/ I need speed maybe, and a quick turn time. The only question needs to be dealt is, how many seats am i to put between Gatwick ( 32 mil pax) and other 20 + mil pax cities.
Later on it would be alright, as I would just be using leftover hours of big birds- while connecting gatwick with other closeby big cities.
-
Use a cheap and fast (450+ knots) plane with 130+ seats. That's what I suggest.
But always see if there is another plane with roughly the same specs, just cheaper.
-
XAC? good for hong kong routes only 6m and capable of flying to taiwan with a load of 50 passengers although a bit slow!
-
XAC? good for hong kong routes only 6m and capable of flying to taiwan with a load of 50 passengers although a bit slow!
You mean the MA-60? Thats a fine plane indeed, comparable to the ATR or Dash 8.
-
I have read time and again that ATR's or BAe ATP's are very profitable, but TBH I dont feel like doing so many routes on numerous small A/c's.
Could you all kindly have a look at my airline and tell me :
- if its possible to do without ATR's or BAe ATP's .
- are the Pax limits correct that I have set for these A/c's.
- Can F-100's be the mainstay of my airline for the next 1-2 game year ?
Hope to recieve similar guidance as I have done in the past.
I don't get it why you don't feel like doing many routes on small A/C? It's perfect to do as many (different) routes as you can with any aircraft.
Personally, I don't buy too much different types of A/C. Three types should be enough :P
80-120PAX: <2000nm routes, <1.000.000 airports
+/- 180PAX: <2000nm routes, <80.000.000 airports (I don't do too much of these. Too much route price changes due to the large amount of competition :P)
And one type of L/H aircraft. I prefer A332's or B762ER's.
About the lifespan of aircraft like the F100, those will work fine until they're like 5 years old. I usually replace S/H aircraft once they reach 5 years.