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Airline Mogul => Game Data => Topic started by: fazon on October 11, 2009, 04:29:36 am

Title: A380?
Post by: fazon on October 11, 2009, 04:29:36 am
When are you guys going to implement the A380 into the game?
Title: Re: A380?
Post by: dktc on October 11, 2009, 05:26:06 am
It is already in the game.
Title: Re: A380?
Post by: fazon on October 11, 2009, 06:36:22 am
Oh, my bad. Didn't realize Aircraft search only applied to aircrafts that have been implemented during that game year.
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Post by: CHR on October 11, 2009, 12:06:14 pm
You can see the full list of aircraft under Aircraft > View All Aircraft.
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Post by: jetrc on October 11, 2009, 04:08:53 pm
Not much airlines would buy her though. She's probably a flop in the world of Airline Mogul.. :roll:
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Post by: blue25 on October 11, 2009, 04:26:27 pm
Not much airlines would buy her though. She's probably a flop in the world of Airline Mogul.. :roll:
Not exactly, just don't buy a whole bunch of them. MX costs will be sky high if you do. MX costs could be anywhere from €100mil to €1bil and upwards.
Title: Re: A380?
Post by: CHR on October 12, 2009, 07:26:56 am
I tried to buy one in one world just for the sake of it, but the world finished before it was delivered. I think it would be reasonably popular, like the 747, so people can have the larget plane in the game.
Title: Re: A380?
Post by: jetrc on October 12, 2009, 01:14:32 pm
I tried to buy one in one world just for the sake of it, but the world finished before it was delivered. I think it would be reasonably popular, like the 747, so people can have the larget plane in the game.
But unless you are the number 1 airline in your world, the A380 is too expensive.

Not exactly, just don't buy a whole bunch of them. MX costs will be sky high if you do. MX costs could be anywhere from €100mil to €1bil and upwards.
Agreed. Maintenance costs will be very high. It would be a miracle if someone in AM would operate a large fleet of A380s.  :roll:
Title: Re: A380?
Post by: Flybynight747 on October 19, 2009, 05:45:05 pm
I operate in world #640
airline ID             #30312

I'm No1 in this world and with a comfortable DOC and lead over my nearest competitor have ordered 2 A380s.

To be honest, I have done this for the 'fun' element, just to see what can or cannot be achieved with this behemoth.

When I first started this game, the BEST advice I was given is that it should be FUN, try new things and find your feet and remember, it's just a game.

If interested, I will let you know how my A380 experience goes, from profit, best route, maintenance costs etc.
I'm more than happy to share this information with you all.
It will have to be taken from the fact that there are NO routes I can operate this A/C from (in my World) with NO competition.
As there are a LOT of well established L/H operators in my World.

JAY AIR (Fly High All)
Title: Re: A380?
Post by: iranair777 on November 09, 2009, 11:57:52 am
I tried to buy one in one world just for the sake of it, but the world finished before it was delivered. I think it would be reasonably popular, like the 747, so people can have the larget plane in the game.
But unless you are the number 1 airline in your world, the A380 is too expensive.

Not exactly, just don't buy a whole bunch of them. MX costs will be sky high if you do. MX costs could be anywhere from €100mil to €1bil and upwards.
Agreed. Maintenance costs will be very high. It would be a miracle if someone in AM would operate a large fleet of A380s.  :roll:

We can try operating a A380 only airline when its possible. It has to be a long haul only airline though flying the following:

ATL-LHR
ATL-ORD
LHR-ORD
PEK-HND
PEK-LHR
HND-LHR

All these are assuming that the database is with the latest passenger figures :roll:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World%27s_busiest_airports_by_passenger_traffic

shocking how ATL's pax figures have gone from 90mill in 2008 to 51mill in 2009  :o
Title: Re: A380?
Post by: Air Elbonia on November 09, 2009, 12:23:35 pm
51mil is a year to date number... Nov & Dec can be pretty big months I'd imagine, what with all the holidays 'n all.
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Post by: iranair777 on November 09, 2009, 12:54:51 pm
51mil is a year to date number... Nov & Dec can be pretty big months I'd imagine, what with all the holidays 'n all.
true, but the economic crisis isnt helping though.

anyway, will have you seen my bug in the bugs section?
Title: Re: A380?
Post by: Flybynight747 on November 09, 2009, 01:35:52 pm
Don't forget also that the figures quoted are for International traffic and does not include domestic passenger numbers.

I operated an A380 from HND to ATL and HND to LHR.
The first made a squeak of a profit, around 80K the second was minus 40K
There was obviously competition on the route, so I scrapped them.
Title: Re: A380?
Post by: CHR on November 10, 2009, 06:49:33 am
Those figures are "year-to-date figures from January to July" - i.e. half a year. They aren't that surprising. Although (Beijing's 18% rise excluded) it would appear just about all the airports fell a few percent.
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Post by: laurus on December 23, 2009, 03:32:50 pm
A380's data is anyway wrong. The speed and the fuel consumption amongst the major things are wrong! Is there a person that could correct the mentioned faults?
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Post by: TTA on December 23, 2009, 05:53:57 pm
A380's data is anyway wrong. The speed and the fuel consumption amongst the major things are wrong! Is there a person that could correct the mentioned faults?
What data do you have showing that it is wrong?
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Post by: CHR on December 24, 2009, 11:54:47 pm
Fuel consumption is based on a formula I believe. Perhaps fuel consumption could be using real data where available - many aircraft are more popular due to lower fuel consumption...
Title: Re: A380?
Post by: pilotguy121a on December 30, 2009, 07:24:38 pm
only if you provide sourceS (not from Airbus or Wiki) that the data mentioned is faulty.
Title: Re: A380?
Post by: raiderh808 on August 16, 2010, 11:37:43 am
Why would data from Airbus be considered unreliable? After all, they did make the dang plane! (I don't like Airbus).
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Post by: Mastafa on October 01, 2010, 02:46:55 am
I tried to buy one in one world just for the sake of it, but the world finished before it was delivered. I think it would be reasonably popular, like the 747, so people can have the larget plane in the game.
But unless you are the number 1 airline in your world, the A380 is too expensive.

Not exactly, just don't buy a whole bunch of them. MX costs will be sky high if you do. MX costs could be anywhere from €100mil to €1bil and upwards.
Agreed. Maintenance costs will be very high. It would be a miracle if someone in AM would operate a large fleet of A380s.  :roll:


You know how in the "ancient" days of AM where PW owners got to add $$$? The PW owner can actually add 1 trillion + dollars and forget about the fees!

But now, a tiny Cessna is better than her :(

Anyway, I like the change!!! :) :D
Title: Re: A380?
Post by: bry12 on October 01, 2010, 07:38:58 am
Hey everyone I am currently playing in Public World 1609 Will the A380 be available here?
And how about the Boeing 787 Dreamliner when are you going to add this aircraft in the data?

Thanks :)
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Post by: Virgin Serbia on October 01, 2010, 07:42:42 am
Hey everyone I am currently playing in Public World 1609 Will the A380 be available here?
And how about the Boeing 787 Dreamliner when are you going to add this aircraft in the data?

Thanks :)

I can't find world nr. 1609 in the select world menu. What date is it in the game, and how many year does it run?

The 787 will be added when they know when it enters service. 2010 or 2011. At the moment the game only runs to 2007.

Edit: Yes, the A380 will be available in your world, but only for the last year befor the game ends.
Title: Re: A380?
Post by: Virgin Serbia on October 01, 2010, 07:45:32 am
Why would data from Airbus be considered unreliable? After all, they did make the dang plane! (I don't like Airbus).

Because Airbus (And Boeing) are trying to sell planes, and often lie in order to market the plane as better than the competition.
Title: Re: A380?
Post by: bry12 on October 01, 2010, 07:48:10 am
Hey everyone I am currently playing in Public World 1609 Will the A380 be available here?
And how about the Boeing 787 Dreamliner when are you going to add this aircraft in the data?

Thanks :)

I can't find world nr. 1609 in the select world menu. What date is it in the game, and how many year does it run?

The 787 will be added when they know when it enters service. 2010 or 2011. At the moment the game only runs to 2007.


Public World 1609 started 1993 with 15years running time However its now left with only 9 years remaining game years. The current date in this world is 15-Sept. 1998 (as of this posting) So do you think the A380 will be available here?

Thanks :)
Title: Re: A380?
Post by: Virgin Serbia on October 01, 2010, 07:50:19 am
Hey everyone I am currently playing in Public World 1609 Will the A380 be available here?
And how about the Boeing 787 Dreamliner when are you going to add this aircraft in the data?

Thanks :)

I can't find world nr. 1609 in the select world menu. What date is it in the game, and how many year does it run?

The 787 will be added when they know when it enters service. 2010 or 2011. At the moment the game only runs to 2007.


Public World 1609 started 1993 with 15years running time However its now left with only 9 years remaining game years. The current date in this world is 15-Sept. 1998 (as of this posting) So do you think the A380 will be available here?

Thanks :)

1998 +  9 = 2007

The A380 is available from 2007.
Title: Re: A380?
Post by: bry12 on October 01, 2010, 07:54:00 am
So this means that the A380 will be available only in the last remaining year?  ???Oh well at least I now know

thanks
Title: Re: A380?
Post by: Mastafa on October 02, 2010, 02:49:36 am
Why would data from Airbus be considered unreliable? After all, they did make the dang plane! (I don't like Airbus).

Cheaters :roll:
Title: Re: A380?
Post by: CHR on October 02, 2010, 06:55:46 am
I doubt Airbus data would be wrong. Airlines are hardly going to decide to by $100 millions worth of planes simply based on a few numbers up on the manufacturers website... If the numbers were wrong, I'm sure the airlines would be able to get their money back anyway.
In terms of fliers, they don't really care what the plane's stats are - they are more concerned about airline specific seating and scheduling.
Title: Re: A380?
Post by: dktc on October 02, 2010, 07:33:05 am
Let's simply say that the stats on the manufacturers' websites could at times be different from those they file with the authorities. Some manufacturers are more reliable, while others, we have caught them having "seemingly questionable" stats on their website. Some even have multiple sets of specs for the same model of aircraft on their websites, in different sections and/or documents. That is the fact, and we are not here to speculate the reasons.

Please get back on topic.

Title: Re: A380?
Post by: TheKevinShow on October 02, 2010, 09:55:13 am
I don't think it'll really be usable, really, since if the build time for the biggest 747 is any indication, it'll take more than half of the year to build.
Title: Re: A380?
Post by: Virgin Serbia on October 02, 2010, 10:46:01 am
I doubt Airbus data would be wrong. Airlines are hardly going to decide to by $100 millions worth of planes simply based on a few numbers up on the manufacturers website... If the numbers were wrong, I'm sure the airlines would be able to get their money back anyway.
In terms of fliers, they don't really care what the plane's stats are - they are more concerned about airline specific seating and scheduling.

One thing is what they tell the airlines, another is what they post on their website. It's called marketing. In 2005 Airbus claimed that the proposed A340-600E, an improved A340-600 with A350 (the original A350) materials and updated engines etc. would be a 777 killer. Never quite happened. They said the same about the A340-600HGW, and that one hardly sold any frames. And look at Boeing in the KC-X competition, claiming the 767 is far cheaper to operate than an A330 (which it is, but CASM is higher).   
Title: Re: A380?
Post by: Mastafa on October 03, 2010, 12:08:09 am
As I tell you, they run after money   >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(  :( :( :( :( :'(
Title: Re: A380?
Post by: blue25 on October 04, 2010, 01:57:01 am
As I tell you, they run after money   >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(  :( :( :( :( :'(
You can run and tell that, homeboy :lol:
Title: Re: A380?
Post by: Mastafa on October 04, 2010, 02:20:04 am
As I tell you, they run after money   >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(  :( :( :( :( :'(
You can run and tell that, homeboy :lol:

So can you! :P