european slaughter at end of round

ALFC · **on:** September 24, 2007, 10:23:32 pm

hi, i noticed it in the past RL week, the european market is getting VERY competetive on many hubs, you have bigger airlines chopping routes with high frequency connections at prices of under 50, leased plane airlines struggling for survival trying to make a living against people with diversified route networks who can afford to basically 1€ a route just to cut the competition out. it is a very nice game right now, sad the round is over so soon, otherwise we would certainly see alot of bankrupt and market consolidation in europe.
how is it in usa or asia?

CornField · **Reply #1 on:** September 24, 2007, 10:43:06 pm

North America has been that way for about 2 game years..

blue25 · **Reply #2 on:** September 24, 2007, 10:45:29 pm

Yeah. I remember when Cornfield and I competed ATW-MCI. You remember that? Now there are no gets at either left (fortunately at ATW I have 5 built gates.

dktc · **Reply #3 on:** September 24, 2007, 10:56:45 pm

Asia?

You need to ask?

ALFC · **Reply #4 on:** September 24, 2007, 11:08:02 pm

Quote from: "CornField"

North America has been that way for about 2 game years..

my impression was that the terminal building increased the normal competition tenfold in europe, so i assume it has been like this in other places aswell: players have cash but no gates to expand, with the terminals, this was possible hence a huge competition increase.

Pod1967 · **Reply #5 on:** September 24, 2007, 11:14:54 pm

It's been like that in the top places in Europe for the past 2 months real time.

rodendack · **Reply #6 on:** September 25, 2007, 01:07:32 am

normally I fix 2 under 25% load routes average per day, now I got 5 or 6 everyday, I gave up, beacuse there´s no point with the game ending so soon

latinamerica

Pepperjack · **Reply #7 on:** September 25, 2007, 01:22:50 am

It's probably like that for everyone currently.

Blue Sky Mine · **Reply #8 on:** September 25, 2007, 08:16:44 am

Quote from: "ALFC"

hi, i noticed it in the past RL week, the european market is getting VERY competetive on many hubs, you have bigger airlines chopping routes with high frequency connections at prices of under 50, leased plane airlines struggling for survival trying to make a living against people with diversified route networks who can afford to basically 1€ a route just to cut the competition out. it is a very nice game right now, sad the round is over so soon, otherwise we would certainly see alot of bankrupt and market consolidation in europe.
how is it in usa or asia?

Well, can't help that. I didn't start most fires. But I can't let other people bash me out of my hubs!

MrOrange · **Reply #9 on:** September 25, 2007, 11:13:03 am

Some airlines just need to focus on smaller non-saturated routes instead of basing in Frankfurt. And in this case, I think the terminal function essentially K.O.'ed about 10% of the airlines currently in the game, just because all big airlines can build terminals for a way too low amount of money, which they'll mostly earn back in less than one hour. It ruins the game for the new players, who don't have a chance at all to survive, even if they base in a small airport, because everyone is already flying to that airport at €1 per flight.

EXTspotter · **Reply #10 on:** September 25, 2007, 11:41:05 am

I started only 6 days ago in a small airport, I have a fleet of over 25 aircraft, including 767s and 777s and have already opened up a new base.

Small airports can still make money.

crcole · **Reply #11 on:** September 25, 2007, 01:06:57 pm

It's like the real world eh?

Jps · **Reply #12 on:** September 25, 2007, 01:08:04 pm

Quote from: "EXTspotter"

I started only 6 days ago in a small airport, I have a fleet of over 25 aircraft, including 767s and 777s and have already opened up a new base.

Small airports can still make money.

Lol true.. restarted yesterday

LOT 737-300 · **Reply #13 on:** September 25, 2007, 01:11:41 pm

Quote from: "MrOrange"

Some airlines just need to focus on smaller non-saturated routes instead of basing in Frankfurt. And in this case, I think the terminal function essentially K.O.'ed about 10% of the airlines currently in the game, just because all big airlines can build terminals for a way too low amount of money, which they'll mostly earn back in less than one hour. It ruins the game for the new players, who don't have a chance at all to survive, even if they base in a small airport, because everyone is already flying to that airport at €1 per flight.

Agree on what you say about flying on smaller, non-saturated routes. If a airline does these, they have a better chance of survival, if they base themselves out of a smaller airport and fly to as many small towns that most everyone else seems to have ignored, they can actually make a decent profit, depending on the plane they use, Granted, it might be something between 8K and 30K (depending on many variables), but it still can make you some good profit if you planned it out right. Of course, the LF script is a bit out of wack as it is right now, so 100% LFs can be destroyed easily to like 50% by undercutting by 1 cent.

Blue Sky Mine · **Reply #14 on:** September 25, 2007, 08:19:10 pm

Quote from: "EXTspotter"

I started only 6 days ago in a small airport, I have a fleet of over 25 aircraft, including 767s and 777s and have already opened up a new base.

Small airports can still make money.

Big aírports can still give you a lot of money. Not as your first base though!