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on: August 23, 2010, 03:29:41 am
I currently own five planes: two Beriev BE-32KMs, two ATR 72-200s and a Dornier 228-202. Right now, they are costing me 1,081,823 in maintenance per month. How can I determine which planes are costing me the most maintenance fees, and when is a good time to take them out of service?

Also, do planes that don't fly any routes accrue any maintenance fees?


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Reply #1 on: August 23, 2010, 04:21:39 am
I currently own five planes: two Beriev BE-32KMs, two ATR 72-200s and a Dornier 228-202. Right now, they are costing me 1,081,823 in maintenance per month. How can I determine which planes are costing me the most maintenance fees, and when is a good time to take them out of service?
The older the plane, the more expensive it will be in maintenance.

The more expensive the plane, the more expensive it will be in maintenance.

Using an F-100 out of ORD, JFK, LHR, CDG, or FRA, I can get 900k to 1.1M DOC on the first one or two planes. There is zero need to replace that plane ever. However, a 130M wide-body that can only accrue 300-400k DOC from three routes will need to be replaced every few game years.

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Also, do planes that don't fly any routes accrue any maintenance fees?
Yes. They accrue the same maintenance costs as one that flies 23h59m per day. That is the reasoning behind the cycles/hours stats in hopes to provide a more accurate rate of maintenance in the future.
             
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Reply #2 on: August 23, 2010, 04:46:35 am
Here are my planes. My DOC is 1,134,231. Where should I go from here?

Boeing 737-400 - 1:18 - Leased In - €347,907 - Age: 0.2 - Hours: 1.30 - Value: €63,274,905 (I just put in a broker request for a brand new 737 so this info will be moot within 6-7 RL days)
ATR 72-200 - 0:20 - In Service - €344,356 - Age: 0.2 - Hours: 0.34 - Value: €12,489,107
ATR 72-200 - 0:36 - In Service - €223,666 - Age: 0.1 - Hours: 0.60 - Value: €11,584,836
Beriev Be-32KM - 1:47 - In Service - €61,407 - Age: 0.9 - Hours: 1.79 - Value: €2,979,954
Beriev Be-32KM - 2:06 - In Service - €61,149 - Age: 0.9 - Hours: 2.10 - Value: €1,434,304
Dornier 228-202 - 0:36 - In Service - €95,743 - Age: 2.5 - Hours: 0.60 - Value: €1,032,415


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Reply #3 on: August 23, 2010, 12:20:41 pm
             
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Reply #4 on: August 23, 2010, 06:25:13 pm
Whoops. I forgot about that.

Airline ID: 43971
World ID: Public #1609
Current world year: 1995
Current bases: San Diego International
DOC: € 1,156,998
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Reply #5 on: August 25, 2010, 02:50:27 pm
I have a question related to this.

When you have old planes for sale (either on open market or privatly), do you still pay the full maintance costs?

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Reply #6 on: August 25, 2010, 05:16:10 pm
When you have old planes for sale (either on open market or privatly), do you still pay the full maintance costs?

Yes. As long as the plane is in your possession, you will pay maintenance for it. It's often better to just scrap old planes rather than wait for someone to buy it on the open market.
             
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Reply #7 on: August 25, 2010, 06:32:25 pm
Thanks for the quick reply. I got several retired B707`s & DC-8`s on sale in a private world and maintanance going through the roof. So probalbly start scrapping them if no buyers show up anytime soon. (PW452)

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Reply #8 on: August 28, 2010, 03:00:39 am
Back on this subject, I've got two ATR 72-200s being delivered via brokerage. They're going to replace my two least profitable Berievs.

7237     Beriev Be-32KM     PW PT6A-65B         1     0:13     Online     1718     4991     €75,827
7207     Beriev Be-32KM     PW PT6A-65B         1     0:26     Online     3199     7348     €84,300

Obviously, the Berievs are far too new to scrap. I can still make money off of them even when I'm not using them. Should I sell them or lease them, and at what price?


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Reply #9 on: September 07, 2010, 04:57:11 am
Ok, so after playing for a while since posting this thread, I've gotten rid of the Berievs and the Dornier. I now fly 23 ATR 72-200s (with four on order) 2 737-400s and I've got a 767-200ER on order.

Three of the ATRs are a year or older, as is one of the 737s. When is a good age to retire/replace those planes?


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Reply #10 on: September 07, 2010, 08:16:35 am
As a rule of thumb, replace small a/c every 7,5 years, small jets (the size of a 737) every 3-4 years, and the big ones once a year.


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Reply #11 on: September 07, 2010, 08:19:46 am
Ok, so I've still got a ways to go, then.


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Reply #12 on: September 09, 2010, 03:28:02 pm
Do the number of engines affect maintenance costs?
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Reply #13 on: September 09, 2010, 03:30:40 pm
No. Only price.
             
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Reply #14 on: September 09, 2010, 04:29:40 pm
But price influences the maintenance, so cheaper = less maintenance. But the difference in price is usually so little that you don't notice it.


 

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