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Why was my investment Bad?

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on: April 06, 2008, 07:44:43 am
I just bought a Pilatus PC-6/350. It was 700000 give or take a couple of dollars.
It flys the distance...
Whats so Bad about an Pilatus PC-6/350?
Its that cheap...
People keep saying that its crap but I dont care seeing ill probably replace it when I get a higher DOP
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Reply #1 on: April 06, 2008, 07:52:41 am
It is crap  :lol: . The more seats you have, the more profits you earn. So basically a DHC-6-100 is better than 2 PC-6/350..

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Reply #2 on: April 06, 2008, 08:04:29 am
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The more seats you have, the more profits you earn.

That's not entirely correct. There is a number of seats that can be considered as optimal, but you can really only decide that per route. There is no absolute best plane in this game. The PC-6 will give you a quick ROI (Return on Investment) but it will be useless as soon as competition arrives on your routes, simply because it's one of the smallest planes in the game. Your strategy might pay off in the long run, keeping in mind the extra costs for new plane acquisitions and route research.


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Reply #3 on: April 06, 2008, 08:10:07 am
But it is correct for the 0-180 seaters  :lol:

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Reply #4 on: April 06, 2008, 08:11:43 am
Not even. 180 seats can destroy small-yield routes quite easily, especially when used badly.


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Reply #5 on: April 06, 2008, 08:12:23 am
Run them on LHR-ATL  :lol:

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Reply #6 on: April 06, 2008, 08:15:49 am
You do know you're essentially over-ruling your own theory now, do you? But @AusConnect: Your investment wasn't bad at all, it is just one strategy to progress towards world domination :wink:


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Reply #7 on: April 07, 2008, 08:43:19 am
Yeah it's all what you do with them. I've just received two Turbo Porters who are bringing in 130k total a day. I can't imagine a DHC-6-100 bringing in that in World 1 unless you're the first player as all the routes they can touch are almost matched by the starting plane. As well as being the same price(1.7Mil for the two B2-H2 Turbo Porters, 1.7 Mil for the DHC) they're both faster and have a longer range so that all the routes I'm on are mine alone. Plus it's 1 seat more between them for a higher rate charged, increased speed(more routes covered) and more chance of an untouched route. I'd rather pick the two Turbo Porters any day.

Edit: Oh and if you're watching your money from the start you can order one Pilatus, then the second once you can afford it. So that there's the extra couple hundred thousand profit made with the earlier purchase compared to the DHC
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Reply #8 on: April 07, 2008, 08:51:57 am
hey, suntoucher's back!


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Reply #9 on: April 07, 2008, 08:55:00 am
Given that I'm at JFK, I need to get into bigger planes quickly.....same think if you're in MEL, SYD, AKL, or any of those big cities.

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Reply #10 on: April 07, 2008, 09:07:41 am
Howdy, yeah I ended up getting sick of having to redo my routes every hour. Now that multi-worlds is in life should be easier.

And you don't necessarily need bigger planes. Medium planes with a lot of speed can be good for quick cash. Just ordered a Mu-2G. Only 12 Seats but fast with a lot more range than those 20 or 30 seat planes which will be competing with the other airlines if I ordered.

Edit: In Sydney by the way.
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Reply #11 on: April 07, 2008, 09:11:08 am
gonna be getting some Fokker 50's soon


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Reply #12 on: April 07, 2008, 09:27:23 am
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Howdy, yeah I ended up getting sick of having to redo my routes every hour. Now that multi-worlds is in life should be easier.

And you don't necessarily need bigger planes. Medium planes with a lot of speed can be good for quick cash. Just ordered a Mu-2G. Only 12 Seats but fast with a lot more range than those 20 or 30 seat planes which will be competing with the other airlines if I ordered.

Edit: In Sydney by the way.


Well Sydney doesn't have a dozen major airports in a 350 mile radius. JFK does. Which means one of the only ways you make money is to go long range.

That NAMC I ordered, it's 60 seats, 252 knots, and close to 2000nm range. These planes served me well last round, they should serve me well this round.

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Reply #13 on: April 07, 2008, 09:48:11 am
yes it does...what about these routes?

sorry if its jumbled...

 Flt No Depart Arrive Aircraft Type Freq Load Profit    
View 2115 Sydney Rockhampton Pilatus PC-6/350 0.5 100% €13,570 Edit Close  
View 1197 Sydney Tamworth DHC-6-300 0.5 96% €16,035 Edit Close  
View 979 Sydney Wollongong DHC-6-300 1 100% €17,905 Edit Close  
View 2109 Sydney Gold Coast Airport Pilatus PC-6/350 1 100% €19,630 Edit Close  
View 975 Sydney Moruya DHC-6-300 1 100% €21,021 Edit Close  
View 955 Sydney Orange - Springhill DHC-6-300 1 100% €21,040 Edit Close  
View 985 Sydney Parkes DHC-6-300 1 100% €21,234 Edit Close  
View 961 Sydney Taree DHC-6-300 1 100% €21,568 Edit Close  
View 1198 Sydney Merimbula DHC-6-300 1 100% €21,761 Edit Close  
View 1199 Sydney Port Macquarie DHC-6-300 1 100% €23,017 Edit Close  
View 784 Sydney Newcastle Airport DHC-6-300 1 100% €23,157 Edit Close  
View 2101 Sydney Brisbane Pilatus PC-6/350 1 91% €23,310 Edit Close  
View 948 Sydney Wagga Wagga DHC-6-300 1 100% €23,752 Edit Close  
View 917 Sydney Dubbo DHC-6-300 1 100% €23,783 Edit Close  
View 781 Sydney Canberra International DHC-6-300 1 100% €23,824 Edit Close  
  Summary for Sydney Average Load 99% €314,607
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