Boeing 737-200Adv vs. SE 210 Caravelle Super 10B

[Jps]

Although I believe the Caravelle to be better in ways of fuel usage, speed and price... The 737-200adv might be good after all...

Which one do you like the best?

[Chavaquiah]

It really depends on the profiles of routes you're flying them (as always). With that said, I favour heavily the Caravelle. For a cost of 30M it carries on average 1077 PAX per day vs 1152 for the 732 @ 43M. Only a few less people for 2/3 of the price. Or, to put it another way, you can get 3 Caravelles for about the same price as 2 Boeings.

Obviously, Caravelle's limitation is range. So, again, it depends on the profile of each route.

[Max2147]

I fly mostly short range routes, so the Caravelle 10B is great for me.  It's cheap, so I can buy a lot of them, and it can still carry a lot of passengers.

That said, the 732 does have a competitive advantage over the Caravelle 10B when they go head-to-head on a route.  In order to overcome that I bought the Caravelle 12, which has a competitive advantage over the 732 (although it's more expensive).  So when I'm up against a 732 I put the Caravelle 12 on the route, and when I'm up against smaller planes (mostly props) I put the Caravelle 10B on the route.

[waerth]

And then the next person buys a bigger plane again. And then you buy a bigger one again etc etc. Why do people keep on doing this? In economics at school you will have been thought that the answer to overcapacity is not throwing a bigger overcapacity at it! If everyone would follow that rule routes wouldn't die so quickly!

Waerth

[Max2147]

Most of these aren't routes with overcapacity.  The vast majority of my routes have reached equilibrium.

After the Caravelle 12 you also reach diminishing returns, since there's a huge gap in price to get a bigger jet.

- Caravelle 10B -> 732 Adv. is an increase of 11 seats for about $13 million.  I don't think it's worth it, but I can see how others think it is.
- 732 Adv. -> Caravelle 12 is an increase of 13 seats for about $4.5 million.  In my opinion, that's worth it.

After the Caravelle 12, the next cheapest jet that's bigger than the Caravelle is the HS121 Trident 1E-104.
- Caravelle 12 -> HS121 Trident 1E-104 is an increase of 11 seats for over $30 million(!).  Clearly not worth it.

All these planes have similar range (with the exception of the Caravelle 10B, which has shorter range) and similar speed (with the exception of the Trident, which is faster).

[LOT 737-300]

It really depends on the profiles of routes you're flying them (as always). With that said, I favour heavily the Caravelle. For a cost of 30M it carries on average 1077 PAX per day vs 1152 for the 732 @ 43M. Only a few less people for 2/3 of the price. Or, to put it another way, you can get 3 Caravelles for about the same price as 2 Boeings.

Obviously, Caravelle's limitation is range. So, again, it depends on the profile of each route.

Actually, your estimate of how much pax it carries per day is slightly flawed, since it can come down to what routes if flies.

[SATA]

i much prefer the 10B

[ChinaPacific]

both a/c's performance is similar
but due to plane uniformity i prefer B732
my fleet only have Boeing and L1011

[jghastings]

B732, but it's a cosmetic thing. :wink: