0.5 frequency, but should be 10 frequency

[Unknown98]

Ok, I created my first route. Houston Hobby to Dallas Love field. When creating the route it said it would be a 10 frequency flight, meaning I'd fly that route 10 times a day. But after it was made, the frequency says 0.5. And my DOC remains at 30K, which is the amount of profit that route makes. I remember seeing something about slot constraints, so I purchased one aditional gate at both airports, but the frequency remains at 0.5. What is going on here?

Unk

Edit: My airline ID is 18849

[Arcanum]

Hi, it might be possible that you forgot to set the frequencies for that route.
When you are creating the route, you go through a few different pages.  There is a page that lets you choose what plane you want to fly a route (step 3 if the in-game manual is activated), and another page that lets you set the ticket price (step 4).

The page that lists your aircraft will always show you the maximum number of frequencies that each plane can fly, which depends on their hours left and the number of open slots at both airports.  Since this is your first route, and Houston Hobby to Dallas Love Field is a short distance, the number of frequencies should be high, and there might be a "*" under the notes column (which says that plane can fly even more frequencies).

The next page is where you set the ticket price and frequency.  The frequency (in a drop down menu under the ticket price box) is set to 0.5 automatically, and if your plane can fly more than that, it will let you choose.  If you don't change it here, the plane will fly a 0.5 frequency on that route, which I think is what happened.

Hope that helps! 

[Unknown98]

Ah yes, that's what happened. I thought those two were different because where you set the frequency is not called "Frequency", but "Daily Services".

Now why is it impossible to make a profit with large frequencies? Low passenger demand for that route I'd guess? In real life you can fly that route for $99.

Edit: Nevermind, I figured it out. I guess you just have to play around with frequencies and price to get the best ratio? My daily profit I figured out is now at 135K (16.8K x 8 flights), and if I open up another route I may be able to double that now that I understand the frequencies. Thanks!

[Arcanum]

Yep, you just have to play around with the prices and frequencies.  Usually though, you will make more profit creating another route with the same plane (reducing frequencies to 1) than you would by increasing frequencies.

[Unknown98]

Cool, thanks.

[Unknown98]

Frequencies are daily correct? Like a freq. of 4 means each day (hour) I fly that route 8 times?

This doesn't seem to be happening with my airline, I got 3 routes set up:

Houston - Dallas - €16,891 - 4 frequencies = €135,128
Houston - San Antonio - €23,522 - 3 frequencies = €141,132
Houston - New Orleans - 24,239 - 3 frequencies = €145,434
TOTAL DAILY PROFIT: €421,694

But after two days (hours) my airline's finincial report shows the ticket revenue has only gone up by about 342K, from 775K two days ago to 1.16M today. Edit: Now after three days, my ticket revenue has gone up to about 1.29M. So in one day I gained about 173K, which if you multiply that by two, matches up with the two-day figure above of 342K.

What's happening?

[GoldDragonFly]

From my experience and advise I received when I started playing AM, you don't make half the money with such high frequencies then you would with a 1 frequency. If you reduce your frequencies, you could possibly increase your profit per route by double.

Just a thought...

[Unknown98]

Hmm... I just tried that, and I messed around with the ticket prices with a 1 frequency route on all my routes and the largest profit I would make was something like 30K-35K per flight, meaning abour 60K-70K total, which is less that what I am getting (Or supposed to be getting) with the 4 and 3 frequency routes. Possiblly this is bcause they are shorter distance flights?

Edit: Another question. My DOC says €64,652. Which is correct, if you add up the profit made on each of my three flights. But I don't fly 0.5 frequencies, I fly a 4 frequency, then two 3 frequencies. Does the DOC just not take frequencies into consideration?

[CHR]

When you have multiple frequencies, the projected revenue is the sum of all those frequencies individual revenues.
i.e. if it says you get 30k on one frequency, then you get 30k per return flight
if it says you get 60k for three frequency, then you get 20k per return flight - or 60k in total

Generally speaking, increasing the number of frequencies will increase the amount of money a specific route generates but will decrease the total money the aircraft makes (as it is able to fly less routes).

[Unknown98]

OH, so, the projected revenue on the create route page step 3 is not the profit per flight, but the total profit of all flights combined? That makes sense now.

Still though, with a 3 frequency I make a sum profit of 60K, while on a 1 frequency I make a sum profit of 30K, so it's still better to fly 3 frequencies correct?

Generally speaking, increasing the number of frequencies will increase the amount of money a specific route generates but will decrease the total money the aircraft makes (as it is able to fly less routes).

Hmm.. right now I got my plane filled up, it can't fly any more routes due to the multiple frequencies. But would making new routes overcome the gate rental fee?

[CHR]

Gate rental fees are minimal, as they are charged per game month, making a 50k airport, 2000 per day. For that, you get 10 slots - i.e. 10 return flights from the airport. So a single slot is only 200 Euros per day. You must consider that you will not use all the slots in a destination (whereas you will use all the slots in your hub in the long term), so the total cost for the extra route is closer to the 2000 Euros per extra route. Really, gate rental is not a very large cost - so you could overcome the fees by earning a few thousand Euros more.

As an example of the effect of frequencies, flying to a small airport, I can get a total of 50k at one frequency, 59k at two frequencies or 53k at three frequencies. Clearly I am better off doing only one frequency in this situation. You will find that later in the game, single frequencies become far more profitable

[Unknown98]

Ok, so flying 3 frequencies may make more money than a single frequency on a particular route, but it fills up the plane's time when it could be flying other 1 frequency routes, so while 1 frequency routes make less money, you can fly more of them, so in the end you make much more money.

Do I get it now? 

[CHR]

Correct! Full marks!

[Unknown98]

Yay lol.

Thanks to everybody who explained to me, I know how frustrating newbies can be sometimes