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General Chat / Re: Count to 10,000
« on: July 20, 2011, 10:32:13 pm »
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General Chat / Re: That issue on the 737 being vastly inferior to the A320 family...
« on: July 20, 2011, 10:30:40 pm »
260+365 for Airbus = 625 total 
I'm sure a lot of these statistics (from both manufactures) are BS. For example, Boeing has said that the current 737NG has better economics then the future A320NEO, which just isn't true (and the airlines seems to agree here)
I'm also sure that the operating cost of the A320NEO vs the 737NG is exaggerated.
Almost all of the statements made by the manufactures are just PR that one shouldn't put much weight in. We won't know until the airplanes are up in the air.
I think the reason for a split order was that AA really, really needed to replace the MD-80. As no manufacture could possibly cover all that in a reasonable time frame, a split order was the only reasonable thing to do. With the A320 already in the fleet, it was a no-brainer to add "some" A320NEOs. This is Boeing's loss, because I believe that if Boeing could have won this order if the 737RE had been launched earlier. What Boeing really needs now is to just officially launch and get some orders for the plane (preferably from big Boeing customers like UA, WN, KL...
In the DL case, I wouldn't be too surprised if they also would make a split order. They have said they wanted new planes soon, and I think Airbus still should have some A320 classic slots left.
If you read some of the other news articles it states that the Boeing 737RE is 10% beater in terms of fuel efficiency then the A320NEO, Boeing is better.
I'm sure a lot of these statistics (from both manufactures) are BS. For example, Boeing has said that the current 737NG has better economics then the future A320NEO, which just isn't true (and the airlines seems to agree here)
I'm also sure that the operating cost of the A320NEO vs the 737NG is exaggerated.
Almost all of the statements made by the manufactures are just PR that one shouldn't put much weight in. We won't know until the airplanes are up in the air.
I personally think they only took Airbus to see which aircraft is better, so they can pick which one they like more when both Boeing and Airbus build replacement aircraft in the 2020-2030 decade.
I think the reason for a split order was that AA really, really needed to replace the MD-80. As no manufacture could possibly cover all that in a reasonable time frame, a split order was the only reasonable thing to do. With the A320 already in the fleet, it was a no-brainer to add "some" A320NEOs. This is Boeing's loss, because I believe that if Boeing could have won this order if the 737RE had been launched earlier. What Boeing really needs now is to just officially launch and get some orders for the plane (preferably from big Boeing customers like UA, WN, KL...
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In the DL case, I wouldn't be too surprised if they also would make a split order. They have said they wanted new planes soon, and I think Airbus still should have some A320 classic slots left.
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General Chat / Re: Best airbus on AM
« on: July 18, 2011, 08:26:22 pm »
^^ Headwinds might be a problem too, but I'm sure that an A318 wouldn't be able to get to JFK from LCY fully loaded.
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Airline Reports / Re: Villair - Liaoning Aviation (Public World 2006)
« on: July 18, 2011, 06:41:59 pm »
May, 7th, 1993 - Public World 2006
The Dalian aviation scene has changed!
Liaoning Aviations decision to create a hub in Dalian means that lower fares and new destinations can be expected, which is really good news for the Dalian resident! 22 new flights has been started. 20 of the new destinations are unique destinations, not served by any other airline form Dalian! The current route map are:
Trivia:
Serves 39 destinations
Flies 57 routes
Fleet consists of 8 aircraft
Transports 5680 passengers every day
Longest route: Shenyang-Fukuoka 585 nm
Shortest route: Dalian-Changhai 56 nm
Serves destinations in 5 countries
Serves destinations in 9 Chinese provinces
Largest aircraft seats 72 passengers
Smallest aircraft seats 19 passengers
Largest airline in Dalian and Shenyang (by seats)
Avarage fleet age is 0.1 years
The Dalian aviation scene has changed!
Liaoning Aviations decision to create a hub in Dalian means that lower fares and new destinations can be expected, which is really good news for the Dalian resident! 22 new flights has been started. 20 of the new destinations are unique destinations, not served by any other airline form Dalian! The current route map are:
Trivia:
Serves 39 destinations
Flies 57 routes
Fleet consists of 8 aircraft
Transports 5680 passengers every day
Longest route: Shenyang-Fukuoka 585 nm
Shortest route: Dalian-Changhai 56 nm
Serves destinations in 5 countries
Serves destinations in 9 Chinese provinces
Largest aircraft seats 72 passengers
Smallest aircraft seats 19 passengers
Largest airline in Dalian and Shenyang (by seats)
Avarage fleet age is 0.1 years
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General Chat / Re: Best airbus on AM
« on: July 18, 2011, 10:07:20 am »I vote the A320 too!! You know BA has a A318 that flies LCY to JFK nonstop!It stops in Shannon for at the outbound leg due to LCYs short runway.
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General Chat / Where are you posting from, right now?
« on: July 17, 2011, 11:51:15 am »
I'm posting from my computer in my bedroom.
A reward to the person that posts from the weirdest place!
A reward to the person that posts from the weirdest place!
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Airline Reports / Re: Villair - Liaoning Aviation (Public World 2006)
« on: July 17, 2011, 11:44:46 am »www.liaoningaviation.com
April, 1st, 1993 - Public World 2006
After introducing a new Frequent Flier program, as well as a business class product, Liaoning Aviation now wants to buy bigger and better airplanes.
Believing that Beeches always were to small, Liaoning Aviation went to the market looking for bigger and more comfortable planes.
The Dash-8 was the first plane that caught our attention. Being such a fast, quiet and comfortable plane, there just wasn't any competition to the Dash-8.
Liaoning Aviation decided that the Dash-8-300A was the plane to replace the Beeches. And order for Two wore therefore made, of which one has been delivered, replacing the Beech 1900, which has been put up for sale in the Aircraft Market.
But Liaoning Aviation decided that they still didn't have enough planes to accommodate the growing market in Liaoning, so an order for an additional two BAe ATPs have been made.
Current Fleet:
1 Beech 1900D - To be phased out
3 BAe ATP - 2 in service, on on order
2 Dash 8-300A - 1 in service, 1 on order
Liaoning Aviation will soon reveal a major announcement, which will make Liaoning Aviation an even better airline with a bigger audience, so stay tuned!
www.liaoningaviation.com
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General Chat / Re: Count to 10,000
« on: July 16, 2011, 06:16:08 pm »
It should have been ADGB 
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General Chat / Re: Last person to post wins.
« on: July 16, 2011, 10:18:33 am »
Not so much longer!
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