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General Chat / Another kind of 0.5 frequency abuse?

« on: October 25, 2007, 01:28:12 am »

, but there's no way companies would do stuff like this IRL.

really? is that why airlines like singapore are technically operating multiple 0.5 frequencies into LHR each day?

b/c they pick up passengers at LHR and fly to the next destination?  I doubt they're sending the aircraft full and then back empty just to fill it up again.  It's not good business sense to fly YOW to YYZ with passengers, then fly back from YYZ to YOW empty to pick up passengers and fly back to YYZ, just to return empty again.

Unlike in AM, airlines schedule their rotues by week, not by day.  Time changes also mess things up.

Take a Qantas 747 flying SYD-LAX-SYD as an example.  The plane leaves SYD in the afternoon (Australia time) and gets to LAX in the morning (California time).  Due to time changes, curfews, connections, etc the plane can't depart on its return leg until the evening (California time).

So in a 24-hour period, it flys SYD-LAX (about 13-14 hours), then sits on the ground in LAX for the remaining time.  In AM, that would mean a 0.5 frequency on that plane, and every other plane operating the SYD-LAX route.  But Qantas actually operates SYD-LAX 3 times each day both ways using several 747's.  If you try to translate that into AM, you'd end up with 6 planes from the same airline running 0.5 frequencies SYD-LAX.

But in a real-life timetable it shows up as 3 full frequencies, and I'm sure customer demand treats it as such.  So the best way to deal with the issue in AM would be to group the 6x 0.5 frequencies together and make them have the same fare/profit as one 3x frequency flight.

That would be ideal, except that in AM that aircraft is magically reappearing at the departure airport again.  The game would have to "decomission" that plane on a 0.5 flight for a day to make it more realistic.  So that plane flying to say LGA to LAX would only fly every second day on a 0.5 flight.

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General Chat / Another kind of 0.5 frequency abuse?

« on: October 25, 2007, 12:52:29 am »

, but there's no way companies would do stuff like this IRL.

really? is that why airlines like singapore are technically operating multiple 0.5 frequencies into LHR each day?

b/c they pick up passengers at LHR and fly to the next destination?  I doubt they're sending the aircraft full and then back empty just to fill it up again.  It's not good business sense to fly YOW to YYZ with passengers, then fly back from YYZ to YOW empty to pick up passengers and fly back to YYZ, just to return empty again.

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General Chat / Another kind of 0.5 frequency abuse?

« on: October 24, 2007, 10:03:34 pm »

Just a question... but can a flight put three 1.5 frequency flights into the same destination?

It should be fixed that you'd make the same amount of money if you have two 0.5 flights going to the same destination as you would with a single 1 frequency flight.

I know this is a game, but there's no way companies would do stuff like this IRL.

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General Chat / Route question.

« on: October 24, 2007, 10:00:24 pm »

This seemed kind of weird, b/c I've never seen it before, so I thought I'd ask.

I have a flight going from my hub (A) to my destination (B).  It's a 1.5 frequency flight.

Someone else, set up their hub at (B) and has a 1.5 frequency flight going to my hub at (A).

So, my departure airport is his destination airport and vice versa.  Now, my question is... should I be seeing him as competition?  I don't think I've noticed it before where I'd get into repricing flights with someone from another departure point.

I hope that makes sense.

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General Chat / Anything to be done about Under Cutters

« on: October 24, 2007, 09:56:06 pm »

I run into the same problem... I usually try changing frequencies to get out of the price war, but if that doesn't work, then I'll purchase an aircraft that holds the amount of people I'm flying on the current aircraft.

So, if everytime I log in, that route has a 50% load and the aircraft holds 40 passengers, I'll redeploy a 20 passenger aircraft in its place.  I haven't actually tried this yet, but in theory, it makes sense.

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Bugs / Slots missing.

« on: October 18, 2007, 11:08:47 pm »

one-ways (and combination one-way/round trip) frequencies, also known as the .5's, round up to use a full slot.

Every slot is the equivalent of 1 frequency, so a route that does 10 frequency takes 10 slots (at each end) to create.  a route that does 1.5 frequencies takes 2 slots at each end, a route that does .5 takes one slot at each end.

Thanks for the clarification.

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Bugs / Slots missing.

« on: October 18, 2007, 10:38:33 pm »

I have two gates at Toronto.  I'm only using 18 slots out of those two gates, I'm not sure where the other 2 went.

Also, it seems that frequencies take up slots on the destination airport.  I have a flight with 3 frequencies and it's taking up 3 slots on the arrival airport.  Same with another flight that has 1.5 freqency taking up 2 slots.  I'm not sure if this is normal or not.

Airline ID: 5655

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General Chat / meal drinks and prices

« on: October 15, 2007, 09:02:38 pm »

you need lots of routes

I only have 6 routes and I'm making about $422 a month.  My costs are low though, I tried to keep them as to what they would be during the 50's and just bring things up as the time goes along.

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General Chat / Another kind of 0.5 frequency abuse?

« on: October 14, 2007, 09:25:54 pm »

From what I understand, having all routes in 0.5 freq are both illogical and unrealistic...
The profit cannot simply be counted on in one single day.

If you want realism, then you can't have 0.5 flights.  Even for the long haul flights, since that aircraft has to get back to your base.  If you only have a oneway flight, then your aircraft is stuck at the destination's airport.  If it's going to flyback, then you might as well load it up with passengers and bring them back to your destination.

Another realistic option is to fly your aircraft from one destination to another.  So, I could have my flight leave Toronto bound for Ottawa and then leave Ottawa for Montreal, then back to Toronto.

I have been on flights that would stop in a city to pick up more passengers and refuel while continuing on to my destination.  I once flew from Trenton, Ontario to Saskatoon, Saskatchewan where we picked up passengers and refueled then continued on from there to Quadra, British Columbia.

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General Chat / Another kind of 0.5 frequency abuse?

« on: October 14, 2007, 06:03:01 pm »

Air Klymaxia's case is being dealt with by DanielD. I won't comment on it because I can't. I have no knowledge about it at all but there is a reason behind everything our staff do.

I'm just waiting to hear back from him.

My understanding of the rule was two 0.5 flights per destination and not two 0.5 flights per aircraft.

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General Chat / Another kind of 0.5 frequency abuse?

« on: October 14, 2007, 03:28:11 pm »

I don't care if there are rules about the 0.5 flights, but be consistent about it.  Last round we were all told that it was ok to have two 0.5 flights, now it's changed again?

If it's going to be such a problem to have 0.5 flights, then just eliminate the option altogether.

Some flights come in setting their price at $39 just to run out the competition right off the bat and it's easier to send in two 0.5 flights into the same destination to make up the money.

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Bugs / charged gate fees with no gates?

« on: September 28, 2007, 11:53:41 am »

I closed all the gates and closed the base.  Why wouldn't the gates have disappeared?

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Bugs / charged gate fees with no gates?

« on: September 28, 2007, 12:48:36 am »

I closed off all my gates and just leased out the planes that I had left.
I understand paying the maintenance of the aircraft, but why did I just get charged over three million on gate rental fees when I don't have any rented gates?

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General Chat / People setting fares same as yours...

« on: September 25, 2007, 09:39:35 pm »

Yes.

Then you lower yours to 194.

Then they put theres to 193, then yours to 192.. its a vicious circle, finally ends up a 1

Then it sits at $1 for a while, people start leaving the routes b/c they're loosing money and then it starts over again.

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Bugs / load % weirdness

« on: September 24, 2007, 12:33:15 am »

hmm.

I have a theory as to what is happening to cause this.  unsure at present how i want to change it to fix what i suspect is the cause.

It's not what you suspect though.  especially if your flight is older then theirs.

Well I hope you fix it soon, I just spent a buttload of coin to not change any prices.