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General Chat / Life without AM?

« on: April 02, 2008, 11:17:00 pm »

Where's the option for those people who actually had a life outside of AM even during the round?

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General Chat / What Is A Broker?

« on: March 09, 2008, 01:22:58 am »

OK, so what was the point of me doing this if there was no Markup Value?

Thnks for the reply!

Nothing.  A beginner's mistake, but that's OK.  

The only time I would broker for 0% (or lower) is for a fellow alliance member.  I'm not an official broker (there are only 4) so I don't get a discount on any aircraft.

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General Chat / What Is A Broker?

« on: March 08, 2008, 11:17:43 pm »

Thanks for the quick reply. So must I order the plane sepereately or do I just do nothing now?

Also how does this increase my profit as I've had to pay £60.000.000?

You do nothing.  When the plane is done being built, then the person you brokered for will have 3 months in game to pay you for it (3 days in real life).

The profit increase is only if there was a markup percentage.  I've brokered some planes at 2% & 3%, so that means the profit I make is 2% or 3% of the cost of the plane.

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General Chat / What Is A Broker?

« on: March 08, 2008, 11:08:26 pm »

You're buying the plane for someone else.  You are fronting the money and if there is a markup, then that's the profit you make when the other person pays you for the plane once it is built.

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Bugs / [not a bug]Lease payment bug?

« on: March 06, 2008, 09:40:47 pm »

The leasing system in the game isn't very complex.
Simply put, to maximize revenue, only lease planes at the beginning of the month.

I'd be lying if I said I haven't taken advantage of people who didn't realize that leasing a plane on the 21st or 24th means you'll still get charged on the 1st
Basically a 1 month lease at twice the rate!

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General Chat / Largest DOP on a plane

« on: March 06, 2008, 08:08:47 pm »

if no one minds, I am making €1,016,213 with a 737-200adv in multiworlds



*waits to be shunned*

There will be no shunning, specifically because of what I've bolded.

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General Chat / Largest DOP on a plane

« on: March 06, 2008, 04:34:16 pm »

Right now, the best performing A/C for me is a Super 10B at 669k.  I've got 4 making more than 500k each.  It would be more, but people keep dropping fares on my routes.  
My BAe is actually sitting idle as I'm switching out A/C and rearranging routes & such...but in the beginning of the game, it was making 1million+

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General Chat / Aircraft image

« on: March 06, 2008, 04:31:34 pm »

If anyone is curious what a specific aircraft looks like, check out the photo section at http://www.airliners.net.

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General Chat / €1 Routes

« on: March 05, 2008, 07:34:12 am »

I forgot to add without gate rental fees  

Ahh, but what if you're flying to that airport from another hub and deduct the full gate rental from the profit of that airport?  Purely hypothetical, but even then, you could possibly make a profit on 1 E routes (though it's harder than making a profit on 25 & 50 E routes haha).

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General Chat / LEASING - can`t understand

« on: March 05, 2008, 07:32:23 am »

Actually, not quite.  
Rent is what you *pay* - the lease is the type of arrangement you have.
When you "rent" an apartment, you usually have some form of "lease" with the landlord - whether it is month-to-month, 12 months, or a set term (10+ years, etc).  Again, the rent is what you pay (the "consideration"), the lease is the contract that's formed.

Yes... in terms of real estate, that is true...

but do we really say "pay rent on planes"? :?

Sure...if you wanted, it would be perfectly appropriate to say you "pay rent" on the planes you lease.  In the corporate world, it just sounds better to say you "lease" the office, the car, the plane, whatever...rather than "pay rent".

Well generally, wouldn't something 'rented' be for a shorter time then leasing? Eg a rental car is for a few days/weeks , whereas my dad leased a car, and that was for 3 years. Renting is pretty much short-term lease in this context.

Only in the sense of common usage of the word, not the actual meaning.  A rental car is actually "leased" on a day-to-day term (or can be "leased" on an hourly term).

If you haven't already, read up on beginner contract law, and you'll see it's all covered.

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General Chat / Another rant: Clueless price-matchers

« on: March 05, 2008, 06:57:59 am »

In blackjack your playing against the dealer, not against each other.

While you might understand how to play Blackjack, have you ever played in a casino?

I've seen some players in Atlantic City & Vegas get downright brutal and rude against other players because they didn't like how they were playing.  While you're "playing" against the dealer, you're "competing" with other players for the cards.

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General Chat / LEASING - can`t understand

« on: March 05, 2008, 04:37:09 am »

In AM, you pay for the lease. As long as you pay the lease you use the plane. You don't get to own it.

Then what`s the difference between leasing and rent?

Rent is for gate. Lease is for plane.
Technically, they are the same.

Actually, not quite.  
Rent is what you *pay* - the lease is the type of arrangement you have.
When you "rent" an apartment, you usually have some form of "lease" with the landlord - whether it is month-to-month, 12 months, or a set term (10+ years, etc).  Again, the rent is what you pay (the "consideration"), the lease is the contract that's formed.

To matros - leasing is only helpful if you understand advanced finances.  You might consider only buying planes, not leasing them, if you don't understand the leasing market.

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General Chat / What's Your DOP?

« on: March 04, 2008, 12:06:30 am »

As I dont really play the current game, Heres my stats:

DOP: €36,038,677
Airline Cash: €168,034,616
Airline Value: €3,892,193,075
Average Loadfactor: 99.89%
Daily profit: €796,911,983 (expected to go up in the next hour or so due to new terminals being built)
Trying to get a all 737 fleet and then go buy 747's
Current aircraft in fleet:

Argosy 650 Srs 100    2 (for sale)
Boeing 727-100    1 (for sale)
Boeing 737-100    20
Boeing 737-200    35
Boeing 737-200 Adv    23
Convair 580    6 (4 for sale, being phased out gradually)
Fairchild Hiller FH-227B    17 (4 for sale, being phased out gradually)
Lockheed 1649A Starliner    1 (to be replaced by the Boeing 747)

Highest earning aircraft: a shocking €973,348 with a 737-200
Highest earning aircraft (prop): €680,921 with a convair 580
Lowest earner (prop): €173,282 with a Fairchild Hiller FH-227B
Lowest earner (jet): €197,004
   
Terminal built at:
ORD (14)
LAX (7)

Seriously, could you stop bothering with posting your stats?  Ever heard the phrase 'comparing apples with oranges'?  You're beta testing the multiworlds game, NOT the one everyone else is playing.  If you really insist on posting your stats for multiworlds, then at least mention that in the post.

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General Chat / Another rant: Clueless price-matchers

« on: March 04, 2008, 12:03:02 am »

its just a video game

u mad?

This is a video game?

Dang. All I have are still pictures. I guess I need to return it to the store.

No kidding.

This is a game, but this is a multiplayer game where the actions of others affect you.  If there is a player who doesn't educate themselves on proper yield management, then the work another player puts in to research & plan their routes is affected negatively.

The point of these posts is to give those kids some learnin' (as in, educate them on how to SUCCEED in the game, not do poorly and bring everyone else down with them).

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Bugs / Routes losing demand over time?

« on: March 03, 2008, 10:54:23 pm »

But it seems to be a more widespread explanation than that explanation would well explain. For example, I closed out one plane... and then decided not to upgrade it after all. Every single route that plane served (ex-LHR) lost between 2-5k DOP. Now, we know that swapping out planes, you rarely get the same money back in for the same fare, but for all of those routes, I had to drop the fare by up to 50€ to get 100% load factor.

If I'm the only one noticing then maybe it is as you say, and maybe it's a factor of fewer people playing this round and just not the increasing demand which we are used to. But that doesn't mean demand should be dropping across the board? At the start of the game, I could still increase routes with no competition by up to 50€ per day... now I daren't touch them since I know to maintain LF, I'll have to drop my prices.

All very odd!

I've now noticed this too...I took delivery of some new planes and was upgrading the A/C on some routes - yet if I decided not to do so, and tried to recreate the route as originally set, I'd get less than 100% LF.  Not cool!