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Game Updates / Some Small Updates

« on: April 28, 2008, 10:27:10 am »

Would it be possible to make the aircraft for lease list sortable too?

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Bugs / Typos - centralized thread

« on: April 19, 2008, 11:30:42 pm »

An Airport in Ecuador:

Wrong: Porto Velho
Correct: Porto Viejo

Somebody spelt this the Portuguese way it seems...

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General Chat / Want to know why Europe & America are so crowded?

« on: March 12, 2008, 01:06:53 pm »

Just because you have a long range aircraft flying between two high capacity airports does not mean you will see huge returns..  the larger aircraft burn more fuel..  and the longer you fly the more fuel you burn..  causing higher costs to operate a leg.

But then what is the whole point? From a business point of view, when I buy a plane that is 4x to 8x as expensive as a 737, I want to earn 4x to 8x more money, right? If not, then why even bother? Then everybody should just stick to short haul.

Since this is obviously different in real life, maybe the game formulas should be adjusted.

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General Chat / Want to know why Europe & America are so crowded?

« on: March 12, 2008, 12:00:34 pm »

in big airports, fly for some routes within 600nm can make 100,000 with 3-4 competitions.

Did you even read my post? You're just proving my point.

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General Chat / Want to know why Europe & America are so crowded?

« on: March 12, 2008, 11:44:35 am »

Because you can't earn money in the exotic places.

I'm based at the largest airport in Africa, Johannesburg. At an early stage I realized that even with little competition, flying to the continent's most populous places didn't earn a lot of money at all. Through an alliance hub in AMS I realized how easy it was to get stinking rich, even with 10 airlines competing. So all I did was buy airplanes and lease them out. This made me the highest value airline in Africa and around rank 75 in the whole game, all without even flying routes (apart from my small planes I still keep flying)

Now I received my first DC8. I was finally going to start playing! I planned to build a huge super long range network with IL62s from Joburg to all major but far away cities in the world. So I created a route Joburg-Sao Paulo (both are the biggest airport on their continent), 0.5 frequency and another 0.5 to the other Sao Paulo airport, the second largest airport in the continent.

Guess what, my DC8 earns a DOP of little more than 200K, a number I've easily reached with a 737 out of AMS and even Joburg. Only that a 737 costs almost a quarter of a DC8 and takes much shorter to deliver.

Again, I'm in a situation where I should lease out my plane because I'd earn much more than I would if I put it on routes.

I'm sure that most of you have realized the same thing, that long haul (especially if you're not in Atlanta or London) just doesn't earn you a lot more than well planned short haul operations.

In real life it is the other way around, many airlines survive on their long haul routes.

Maybe the formulas should be changed a bit? Any idiot can make a killing by hubbing out of Atlanta. Look at the game's richest airlines. I just kind of lost interest in the game by now. Being stuck in Africa, even at the biggest airport, I feel there's not a lot I can do.

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General Chat / What's Your DOP?

« on: March 04, 2008, 12:22:25 am »

As I dont really play the current game, Heres my stats:

DOP: €36,038,677
Airline Cash: €168,034,616
Airline Value: €3,892,193,075
Average Loadfactor: 99.89%

In your dreams...

http://www.airlinemogul.com/airlinemogul/view_airline.php?id=679

Airline Value:   €80,549,546

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General Chat / 4 BAe's already? How is that possible?

« on: February 27, 2008, 12:14:22 am »

Who the heck scraps their planes at this moment?  :?:

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General Chat / 4 BAe's already? How is that possible?

« on: February 27, 2008, 12:08:52 am »

The game has been going for a mere 3 hours, and the top three airlines in the rankings already operate multiple BAe146s. Just out of curiosity, how is this possible? What did I do wrong?

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General Chat / When will the game start?

« on: February 26, 2008, 09:12:47 pm »

I thought the same thing. It stayed at 1 hour remaining. Well... maybe in 1 hour then.

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General Chat / What's Your DOP?

« on: February 26, 2008, 07:38:54 pm »

I think you guys are forgetting one thing. What good is a high DOP when you reach it with tons of small routes, each requiring a gate rental? I have 326K DOP at the moment and I have 7 routes, my 8 gates amount to 850K a month, about 35K a day, which I should subtract.

Now I'm sure that some of you 1000+ K people would have a totally different figure if you add up all of your high priced hub gates.

Anybody want to post their DOP minus gates?

Mine is 291K

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General Chat / How to afford an airplane?!

« on: February 25, 2008, 08:50:11 pm »

There are planes cheaper than 750k though.. so you could buy those..~ As for how good they would prove to be, that is a whole other question. (The question was only how to get a plane... not how to get a good plane )

I did that, ordered a 10 seater before ordering any gates. I actually thought that the 24+ hours before the game starts would count towards the plane's ordering time!    they did not, of course. I'll see if it was a good decission or not. But I thought I could use the small plane, once delivered, to serve my short routes and make my BAe available for the longer ones. I'll see.

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General Chat / How to afford an airplane?!

« on: February 25, 2008, 08:00:48 pm »

Well, the round hasn't even started yet. When it has, you'll earn money every hour. You can wait for it to pile up to buy an aircraft, or you can use it to lease an aircraft, even though the lease market will be rather empty in the beginning.

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Game News / Game Reset

« on: February 25, 2008, 07:56:27 pm »

An "*a certain airline*" already has a Canadair CL-215 on order, but I'd assume it's a test airline from the Administrators.
http://www.airlinemogul.com/airlinemogul/view_airline.php?id=####

A "*a certain airline" has a B1900, but does not have the start plane any more. So they must have sold theirs for $750K, else nobody could have bought it? Weird. Or scrapped? Even weirder.
http://www.airlinemogul.com/airlinemogul/view_airline.php?id=####


*edited by dktc: please don't accuse your fellow players in public. Email instead*

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Game News / Game Reset

« on: February 25, 2008, 10:41:19 am »

I don't understand one thing: When I look at the rankings page, 80 airlines are already set up. They all have just below 50M value (because of the one plane we all have), however there is one airline, SeaBlue pacific, that already has 100 planes on order, and a value of 500M. How is this possible?

http://www.airlinemogul.com/airlinemogul/rankings.php#

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General Chat / Game restarting 24th Decemeber 1974

« on: February 21, 2008, 05:55:35 pm »

I seem to be among the minority with my opinion: I'm happy about the reset. And about resets in general. I've played 2 rounds till now, and the most exciting time was the first 2 years or so. When I purchased my first planes after saving the money, when I was proud of my one leased 737. When I could still see my network on the route map, and not a big red dot. Even though I started the round late, I made it to 10th place in South America. But during the last 2 weeks I did nothing but log in once every three days, order two DC8s, and leave again. I never even put them on routes. The best part is the beginning, and I can't wait to do it again.