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General Chat / merry christmas and happy new year

« on: October 24, 2007, 04:13:06 pm »

In Ireland Christmas starts in October in some places. Thankfully it hasn't gone full swing yet...

here in the states, I saw christmas decorations in department stores up in late august.

edit: 5 more days left in 1950 !

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General Chat / merry christmas and happy new year

« on: October 24, 2007, 02:52:21 pm »

It's    17 Dec 1950... your a bit early

what are you talking about?  when do you start saying merry christmas in real life?  I'm like a week before christmas

plus, if we want to really talk about it - we will need a few hours.  Soon it will already be the 20th of december and people are definitely saying "merry christmas" by then.

Oh - and since the game month will end at 24 December

that means in 7 hours it will be January 1951

 

edit: by the way, it's "you're a bit early"

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General Chat / merry christmas and happy new year

« on: October 24, 2007, 02:34:59 pm »

to all my fellow 1950ians, hope you have a wonderful holiday season.

may your load factors be high, your yields incredible, & your delays few.

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Bugs / what the hell?

« on: October 23, 2007, 01:36:42 pm »

okay , so around 7:30 I checked and it was like the 15 November
and i was in the hole.  down about -92k

then 1 day later (8:30am eastern) i'm up to 4million cash on hand

WTF? my DOP is only 380k

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Bugs / error in finance

« on: October 23, 2007, 01:00:32 pm »

AE  - thanks for looking into.

The plane was 4416, i'd like to look up the terms of the lease, and how long i had the plane - but i can't.

When i'm at the finance page i click the "go to the operations department to find out where your money is really going"
When i'm there, there is a "view" link that i can click to see a detailed report for each item.

that view link does not work.


Another thing is that in the past i thought of Profit as being Total Revenue minus Total Costs
but I think for purposes of the game Profit is Total Revenue minus a select amount of Costs (i.e. fuel, crew, staff)  but direct operating costs such as the amount it takes to lease a gate and plane.

Now i'm still confused about how 24 hours = 1 game month and 1 hour = 1 game day.  Does this mean that all game months only have 24 days?

Assuming that the Daily Operating Profit isn't actually the daily operating profit since it doesn't include all costs, that means you have 24 days to make up the cost of your plane and the cost of your gates.

In my case i'm flying a leased dc-3 at 550k plus a gate at lax 350k plus a gate at say SFO (300k)
that's 1.2 million in costs that are not reflect on the balance sheet (because they aren't in the daily operating profit)

which means the first 50k of daily operating profit isn't actually profit (1.2 million / 24 game days a game month)


a lot of headache could be removed it this was explained to newbies.
Also - i originally had no idea that 1 day = 1 game month, so i got totally screwed and one of my free gates was taken away from me.  

the game requires people to learn it very quickly in order to not be penalized.

Again, I still don't like the idea that you rent a gate for a month no matter if you rent it at noon or 8pm
Also, i don't like the idea that you are penalized for returning gates/planes.  When you return a gate or plane you instantly return it - instead of at the end of the month.  So if i return a gate on the 3rd day of the month - i have to pay for a full months use.  Or if I return a plane on the 8th day of the month i have to pay for using it for the full month.

the solution would to either make all changes effective at the start of the month (i.e. you signal your desire to return a plane on the 8th but it won't actually be returned until the end of the month) or to pro-rate everything (you only owe 8/24ths of your lease for that month)

additionally it would be easy to amoritze the costs of gate rental and plane leasing over the month so that these costs are reflected in the "daily operating profit" and then the "daily operating profit" would actually show the real profit.

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Bugs / error in finance

« on: October 23, 2007, 02:15:17 am »

Stephen, i've got to congratulate you on taking on the task of setting up this mammoth simulation game.  But i've found it very frustrating, maybe it's because i use IE - but the navigation is very frustrating (important buttons are always hidden in weird places near the bottom of the screen) - the manual/directions isn't very imformative  and of course a link from airline mogul takes you to stephenm.org where you discover that you aren't already registered.  If this is such a vital piece of the airline mogul game, how come my airline mogul usersname wasn't already activated here.  

Well - here's my major bug - i'm Mai Tai Air (MTI) airline ID 6335 my operations log showed that i owed 350k, while my finance showed i owed 350million.  at the time the numbers were exactly the same except the addition of a zero

358,081 mysteriously became 3,508,081 with an added zero between 5 and 8.  I personally think this is way to coincidental to be a mistake on my part.  But it's entirely possible as the finance sheet and operations sheet is really confusing.

there are no real column headings to describe anything like if the numbers are talking about the current month. etc. etc.

then earlier today i got a message from a leasor that my lease was running out in 3 months, and i also got an email today saying that the lease had run out ( for plane 4416) and that the plane had been returned.

if 24 hours = 1 game month, then how is that possible that 3 months would pass on 22October ?

Another thing is that my ASE gate has been flagged for not being utilised.  well, that's fine - but i already followed the steps to return that gate.  So why was it flagged for not being utilised? Why wasn't it returned?

I also have a question about how leases/gate rentals work - are they charge on a pro-rated basis.  If not, then people who join at the wrong time are at a significant disadvantage.  if i only get 1 or 2 days service out of my plane while i have to pay for a full month rent you can see that would be crummy.

I'm hoping you'll say that if i switch to mozilla or something that all these problems will disappear.  But i'm guessing you won't and i'll be googling for other airline simulations.

thanks mate!