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Airline Mogul => Bugs => Topic started by: jameswyhk on August 26, 2007, 01:11:37 am

Title: [FIXED I suppose] Why does this thing happen?
Post by: jameswyhk on August 26, 2007, 01:11:37 am
When I go to the ranking page, I found Morgan AirTrans just increased value rapidly(in just few hours) and to the top of Australasia. I found this in Morgan's page:
(http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa29/wahyanite001/ammo1.jpg)
There's nothing 230
Title: [FIXED I suppose] Why does this thing happen?
Post by: dktc on August 26, 2007, 01:18:28 am
This is a known bug (which I will be informing StephenM how it is done... and yes, I have finally figured it out).

@Morgan, STOP using this cheat.
Title: [FIXED I suppose] Why does this thing happen?
Post by: StephenM on August 26, 2007, 01:23:16 am
I'm going to come down hard on this. I'm thinking auto-ban.
Title: [FIXED I suppose] Why does this thing happen?
Post by: juancho on August 26, 2007, 02:02:10 am
Quote from: "StephenM"
I'm going to come down hard on this. I'm thinking auto-ban.


I think that's very reasonable. Players who use loopholes to abuse the game should be banned.
Title: [FIXED I suppose] Why does this thing happen?
Post by: StephenM on August 26, 2007, 02:05:41 am
Autobans in place. Any problems email the membership director at (daniel[dot]doorgakant[at]airlinemogul[dot]com) to release the ban and post the bug here!
Title: [FIXED I suppose] Why does this thing happen?
Post by: Morgan on August 26, 2007, 02:54:42 am
Well, Be cool, man.
I think that was a holy big buy, i bought two Concorde.
Then i bought B742s and more Concorde, but i dunno why that can $0. I was going to report when i wake up, but you guys know it already.
Let me clarify the situation:
- The plane can order by change the ID
- You can buy planes with $0
- You can't create route on classic plane
- Broker Request Classic will have normal value, buy have $0 value

I think that have some limitation on PHP, everybody can change the ID and see those classic. That's a long way to fix it for admin, i think.   :(
Title: [FIXED I suppose] Why does this thing happen?
Post by: Hampo on August 26, 2007, 03:24:50 am
I hold my hands up, i also have stuff like that...


Fleet:
Aircraft:    Quantity:
   
15
Airbus A300-600    
6
Airbus A310-300HGW    
2
Airbus A319    
16


I got 15 'nothing' aircraft... But, as im an official broker i get them as scraps so i cant do anything with them...
Title: [FIXED I suppose] Why does this thing happen?
Post by: Morgan on August 26, 2007, 04:42:18 am
Hey, stephen,
If the kind of a/c are variable, How about write a recursive function in the php page? Just like:

Quote

<?php
for($i=0; $i<=ac_amount; i++)
    {
    function ($ac_id[1])
       {
       if($ac_id[=$old_ac_id)
         echo 'This kind of aircraft has been retired, please try another one.';
        }
....
    }
?>


It can echo a error message or redirect to other page.
Title: [FIXED I suppose] Why does this thing happen?
Post by: Morgan on August 26, 2007, 05:47:58 am
Well....
I just trying it again, it said my account auto banned...
It seems you done it already ....
Is that my stupid?  :roll:
Title: [FIXED I suppose] Why does this thing happen?
Post by: juancho on August 26, 2007, 07:29:08 am
Adios! :lol:
Title: [FIXED I suppose] Why does this thing happen?
Post by: Morgan on August 26, 2007, 07:40:15 am
Quote from: "juancho"
Adios! :lol:

What's so funny?
Is that a shame to clarify the situation?
Is that a shame to find out the serious bugs in AM?
Who found this bug out and investigate deeply?

I hate somebody just take care his loss.  :roll:
Title: [FIXED I suppose] Why does this thing happen?
Post by: Triple Seven on August 26, 2007, 01:00:55 pm
i dun want any people try to cheat through these bugs.


20 Morgan AirTrans MO  €49,969,369,216 1137
21 Manchuria Air 満州国航空 MSK  €46,931,586,607 1047


Any admin can check their value 2 days before!?
What a great airlines can expand their value 10times within 2days.
Title: [FIXED I suppose] Why does this thing happen?
Post by: StephenM on August 26, 2007, 01:04:15 pm
Quote from: "Morgan"
Hey, stephen,
It can echo a error message or redirect to other page.


At the moment its auto ban, till I clear out the aircraft. When they are gone I will put in error messages. :)
Title: [FIXED I suppose] Why does this thing happen?
Post by: juancho on August 26, 2007, 01:39:46 pm
Quote from: "Morgan"

investigate deeply?


[Comments Removed, this is a PG orientated forum. - StephenM] How's that for investigating deeply? Give me a break.  Investigating deeply...please.
Title: [FIXED I suppose] Why does this thing happen?
Post by: dktc on August 26, 2007, 01:51:25 pm
Quote from: "juancho"
[Comments Removed, this is a PG orientated forum. - StephenM] How's that for investigating deeply? Give me a break.  Investigating deeply...please.


MIND YOUR LANGUAGE!!
Title: [FIXED I suppose] Why does this thing happen?
Post by: d1-3508 on August 26, 2007, 01:56:00 pm
Clean it up guys... Or, else, you'll know what'll happen.
Title: [FIXED I suppose] Why does this thing happen?
Post by: juancho on August 26, 2007, 02:12:05 pm
Quote
MIND YOUR LANGUAGE!!


Did I say a forbidden word?  :? Sniff? Dingle berry? Deeply? :shock:

Did I mince my words? I thought it was clear and didn't contain any foul language...
Title: [FIXED I suppose] Why does this thing happen?
Post by: MM21 on August 26, 2007, 03:27:40 pm
Quote from: "Triple Seven"
i dun want any people try to cheat through these bugs.


20 Morgan AirTrans MO  49,969,369,216 1137
21 Manchuria Air –žB‘q‹ó MSK  46,931,586,607 1047


Any admin can check their value 2 days before!?
What a great airlines can expand their value 10times within 2days.

I explained the situation in another post.Please check the forum before you want to create the post for any other purpose.
Title: [FIXED I suppose] Why does this thing happen?
Post by: MM21 on August 26, 2007, 03:53:30 pm
Btw....
How about those Concorde?

http://www.airlinemogul.com/airlinemogul/view_airline.php?id=777
That 15 Concorde can still be used for business?
Title: [FIXED I suppose] Why does this thing happen?
Post by: dktc on August 26, 2007, 05:44:52 pm
No. All planes that do not belong to this around (ie production withdrawn in year 1999 and before or production begin later than the in-game date, both according to the AM database) should NOT be used. Otherwise, you are begging for discipline. This has been repeated 3 times in different threads (by me... although not an admin, but consider these warnings from StephenM).

These planes include, but not limited to, Concordes, Comets, Viscounts, F-27s, B707s, B732's, A300B2's.

Please drill that into your heads and don't scream unfair in the forum when disciplinary actions are taken. Take the routes and leases and anything off them NOW!
Title: [FIXED I suppose] Why does this thing happen?
Post by: dktc on August 26, 2007, 06:42:23 pm
Oh... and one more thing. Don't sell the planes either. Just leave them in your own account. Anyone buying them would risk dumping their money without any return (because you can't use them and you may not get any money back when the admins clear the planes out)
Title: [FIXED I suppose] Why does this thing happen?
Post by: CornField on August 26, 2007, 11:21:02 pm
Quote from: "dktc"
No. All planes that do not belong to this around (ie production withdrawn in year 2000 and before or production begin later than the in-game date, both according to the AM database) should NOT be used. Otherwise, you are begging for discipline. This has been repeated 3 times in different threads (by me... although not an admin, but consider these warnings from StephenM).

 B717s


Umm....  the final 717 deliveries were in May 2006  to Air Tran and Midwest Express(at the same time, in a large ceremony)
Title: [FIXED I suppose] Why does this thing happen?
Post by: dktc on August 26, 2007, 11:26:18 pm
Quote from: "CornField"
Umm....  the final 717 deliveries were in May 2006  to Air Tran and Midwest Express(at the same time, in a large ceremony)


Sorry about that. I should have edited my post when I discovered the mistakes I made. I am just too lazy :P They are now corrected.
Title: [FIXED I suppose] Why does this thing happen?
Post by: CornField on August 26, 2007, 11:33:30 pm
Quote from: "dktc"
Quote from: "CornField"
Umm....  the final 717 deliveries were in May 2006  to Air Tran and Midwest Express(at the same time, in a large ceremony)


Sorry about that. I should have edited my post when I discovered the mistakes I made. I am just too lazy :P They are now corrected.


Great now I look like a moron, making quotes up.   :lol:
Title: [FIXED I suppose] Why does this thing happen?
Post by: Morgan on August 27, 2007, 08:28:21 am
Quote from: "MM21"
Btw....
How about those Concorde?

http://www.airlinemogul.com/airlinemogul/view_airline.php?id=777
That 15 Concorde can still be used for business?

I think Stephen will take care those selling and using Classic airplanes alliance members.
They owned over 50 classic planes.
Title: [FIXED I suppose] Why does this thing happen?
Post by: MM21 on August 27, 2007, 11:57:06 am
Affirmative....
Some of the alliance (member) really got many Concorde in service.
Title: [FIXED I suppose] Why does this thing happen?
Post by: Daniel Doorgakant on August 27, 2007, 12:42:09 pm
Referring back to the intial post,

Morgan, your account is remaining banned until I investigate it properly. Once I have all the facts and notes, You can have your account back with fine.
Title: [FIXED I suppose] Why does this thing happen?
Post by: Morgan on August 27, 2007, 12:50:09 pm
Quote from: "Daniel Doorgakant"
Referring back to the intial post,

Morgan, your account is remaining banned until I investigate it properly. Once I have all the facts and notes, You can have your account back with fine.

Please check your e-mail for further info.
Title: [FIXED I suppose] Why does this thing happen?
Post by: Daniel Doorgakant on August 27, 2007, 03:15:47 pm
The facts may be here, but I have to investigate it myself, slap a fine on you and let you go regardless of what other players say.
Title: [FIXED I suppose] Why does this thing happen?
Post by: Morgan on August 28, 2007, 02:51:57 am
Quote from: "Daniel Doorgakant"
The facts may be here, but I have to investigate it myself, slap a fine on you and let you go regardless of what other players say.

When your investigation will end?
You are not NTSB investigator and investigate some serious air crash. You just investigate a account, what do you expect? You wanna deliver those blank  a/c to your account? Please release my account now and you have no excuse to repeal.
Title: [FIXED I suppose] Why does this thing happen?
Post by: juancho on August 28, 2007, 06:09:30 am
You guys are way way way too nice...
Title: [FIXED I suppose] Why does this thing happen?
Post by: MM21 on August 28, 2007, 06:35:31 am
I think those account got banned should wait for the admin investigation work.
Be patient, Morgan. :)
Title: [FIXED I suppose] Why does this thing happen?
Post by: Daniel Doorgakant on August 28, 2007, 10:20:04 am
Quote from: "Morgan"
Quote from: "Daniel Doorgakant"
The facts may be here, but I have to investigate it myself, slap a fine on you and let you go regardless of what other players say.

When your investigation will end?
You are not NTSB investigator and investigate some serious air crash. You just investigate a account, what do you expect? You wanna deliver those blank  a/c to your account? Please release my account now and you have no excuse to repeal.


You sound like my wife!
Title: [FIXED I suppose] Why does this thing happen?
Post by: Morgan on August 28, 2007, 11:15:02 am
Quote from: "Daniel Doorgakant"
Quote from: "Morgan"
Quote from: "Daniel Doorgakant"
The facts may be here, but I have to investigate it myself, slap a fine on you and let you go regardless of what other players say.

When your investigation will end?
You are not NTSB investigator and investigate some serious air crash. You just investigate a account, what do you expect? You wanna deliver those blank  a/c to your account? Please release my account now and you have no excuse to repeal.


You sound like my wife!

Don't put your wife on this, I am just 15 man.  :twisted:
You did not answer my question actually.
Title: [FIXED I suppose] Why does this thing happen?
Post by: StephenM on August 28, 2007, 11:19:50 am
Quote from: "Morgan"
Don't put your wife on this, I am just 15 man.  :twisted:


Then your older than Daniel. ;)
Title: [FIXED I suppose] Why does this thing happen?
Post by: Morgan on August 28, 2007, 11:25:10 am
Quote from: "StephenM"
Quote from: "Morgan"
Don't put your wife on this, I am just 15 man.  :twisted:


Then your older than Daniel. ;)

 :shock:
Title: [FIXED I suppose] Why does this thing happen?
Post by: StephenM on August 28, 2007, 11:38:10 am
Thats south Londoners for you, they get married younger and younger now adays!  :lol:
Title: [FIXED I suppose] Why does this thing happen?
Post by: Daniel Doorgakant on August 28, 2007, 11:40:29 am
There are others that are banned aswell, you will be unbanned with them.

Quote from: "StephenM"
Quote from: "Morgan"
Don't put your wife on this, I am just 15 man.  :twisted:


Then your older than Daniel. ;)


As my auld Dad used to say: "Indeed"

(And I say it now)
Title: [FIXED I suppose] Why does this thing happen?
Post by: mc810 on August 29, 2007, 05:16:13 am
good job daniel.
Title: [FIXED I suppose] Why does this thing happen?
Post by: Morgan on August 29, 2007, 05:53:31 am
Quote from: "mc810"
good job daniel.

Yes, he released my account.  :)
Title: [FIXED I suppose] Why does this thing happen?
Post by: MM21 on August 29, 2007, 06:14:38 am
Quote from: "mc810"
good job daniel.

You have been waiting so long for it?Or you miss your concorde so much?
Anyway thx daniel :)
Title: [FIXED I suppose] Why does this thing happen?
Post by: ccy on August 29, 2007, 06:40:03 am
It seems that I can't aim at being no.1 at Australiasia now  :oops:
Title: [FIXED I suppose] Why does this thing happen?
Post by: Morgan on August 29, 2007, 07:17:20 am
Quote from: "ccy"
It seems that I can't aim at being no.1 at Australiasia now  :oops:

Why not?
Every things back to normal now, no classic plane anymore. :)
Title: [FIXED I suppose] Why does this thing happen?
Post by: ccy on August 29, 2007, 01:24:55 pm
Quote from: "Morgan"
Quote from: "ccy"
It seems that I can't aim at being no.1 at Australiasia now  :oops:

Why not?
Every things back to normal now, no classic plane anymore. :)


Coz u jumped up so far away suddenly after the bug
I remember you was still behind me before it


In this case I would like to have come across the bug too,
so that maybe my value can grow two-fold....?


just joking, no offense  :twisted:
Title: [FIXED I suppose] Why does this thing happen?
Post by: Morgan on August 29, 2007, 01:46:22 pm
Quote from: "ccy"
Quote from: "Morgan"
Quote from: "ccy"
It seems that I can't aim at being no.1 at Australiasia now  :oops:

Why not?
Every things back to normal now, no classic plane anymore. :)


Coz u jumped up so far away suddenly after the bug
I remember you was still behind me before it


In this case I would like to have come across the bug too,
so that maybe my value can grow two-fold....?


just joking, no offense  :twisted:

That's ok. I love jokes.  :lol:
Title: [FIXED I suppose] Why does this thing happen?
Post by: mc810 on August 30, 2007, 02:31:33 am
Quote from: "MM21"
Quote from: "mc810"
good job daniel.

You have been waiting so long for it?Or you miss your concorde so much?
Anyway thx daniel :)


hey *****, yea, you're right.. i do miss 'Concorde' so much.. !
which airline are you again? *...deleted by dktc...*


------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

*edited by dktc: Please mind your language and be careful not to make accusation out in open. As for the two airlines you asked about, I do believe they are operated by seperate players. Should you have further worries or confusion or intuition, please contact the membership director, Daniel Doorgakant, in private for further investigation.

At the same time, I would like to warn all forum users to mind your language and be courteous to your fellow users. If another similarly impolite post is made in this thread, it will be locked. This is a promise.*
Title: [FIXED I suppose] Why does this thing happen?
Post by: Morgan on August 30, 2007, 05:21:23 am
Quote from: "mc810"
Quote from: "MM21"
Quote from: "mc810"
good job daniel.

You have been waiting so long for it?Or you miss your concorde so much?
Anyway thx daniel :)


hey *****, yea, you're right.. i do miss 'Concorde' so much.. !
which airline are you again? *...deleted by dktc...*

No good for foul language.  :)
Title: [FIXED I suppose] Why does this thing happen?
Post by: MM21 on August 31, 2007, 04:43:40 pm
Quote from: mc810
Quote from: "MM21"
Quote from: "mc810"
good job daniel.

You have been waiting so long for it?Or you miss your concorde so much?
Anyway thx daniel :)

His company is Morgan AirTrans.
And then my one is responsible to Emperor of Japan and our Kangde Emperor of Manchukuo.
 :lol:


*For detailes:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manchukuo
Title: [FIXED I suppose] Why does this thing happen?
Post by: d1-3508 on September 01, 2007, 06:40:27 am
Quote from: "Morgan"
Quote from: "mc810"
Quote from: "MM21"
Quote from: "mc810"
good job daniel.

You have been waiting so long for it?Or you miss your concorde so much?
Anyway thx daniel :)


hey *****, yea, you're right.. i do miss 'Concorde' so much.. !
which airline are you again? *...deleted by dktc...*

No good for foul language.  :)


Watch that mouth guys.
Title: [FIXED I suppose] Why does this thing happen?
Post by: Blue Sky Mine on September 01, 2007, 10:58:59 am
Not another war of quotes!
Title: [FIXED I suppose] Why does this thing happen?
Post by: Morgan on September 01, 2007, 02:55:35 pm
I think is time to lock this post.  :)
Title: [FIXED I suppose] Why does this thing happen?
Post by: dktc on September 01, 2007, 02:58:22 pm
k, locked