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Non-Airline Mogul => Flight Simulators & Online Flying => Topic started by: cyon20 on January 13, 2009, 03:53:03 am

Title: importing a new airline using Ultimate Traffic
Post by: cyon20 on January 13, 2009, 03:53:03 am
I got Ultimate Traffic for FS2004 in June 2008 and while looking through the manual, i see that you can import a new airline. i thought that was interesting but it says that "If you are not familiar with compiling your own traffic using TTools, it is recommended that you should spend some time getting to know the program before continuing."

what is TTools? where can i find it?

Can anyone help me please?
Title: Re: importing a new airline using Ultimate Traffic
Post by: AirHanoverInternational on January 13, 2009, 07:28:19 am
First: Why do you order a low quality payware addon when there are so many high quality freeware addons available? I would never spend a cent on Ultimate Traffic. If you need more information about the freeware traffic files just let me know.

Now, your question. TTools (freeware) by Lee Swordy is available from here:
http://simviation.com/fs2004utilities1.htm

Please do take your time reading the manual. If you still have questions, well, you know where to find me ;)

Hope this helps.
Title: Re: importing a new airline using Ultimate Traffic
Post by: iranair777 on January 13, 2009, 12:02:03 pm
First: Why do you order a low quality payware addon when there are so many high quality freeware addons available? I would never spend a cent on Ultimate Traffic. If you need more information about the freeware traffic files just let me know.
Hope this helps.

+1, world of AI (search google), has much better models and can be updated to suit anyone and has barely any FPS impact compared to ultimate traffic
Title: Re: importing a new airline using Ultimate Traffic
Post by: Vamerica on January 14, 2009, 02:46:33 am
WOAI is really a great add to FSX or FS2004.  Its simple to get on and it looks real nice too =D
Title: Re: importing a new airline using Ultimate Traffic
Post by: cyon20 on January 14, 2009, 03:40:38 am
is world of AI free?
Title: Re: importing a new airline using Ultimate Traffic
Post by: Vamerica on January 14, 2009, 06:03:41 am
Yes
Title: Re: importing a new airline using Ultimate Traffic
Post by: zkvac on January 14, 2009, 07:41:03 am
Yep it's free, only downside is that you have to install each airline separately, but in some ways that's a good thing as you don't have crowded airports everywhere.

Try http://www.world-of-ai.com/ (http://www.world-of-ai.com/).
Title: Re: importing a new airline using Ultimate Traffic
Post by: AirHanoverInternational on January 14, 2009, 10:02:35 am
...only downside is that you have to install each airline separately, but in some ways that's a good thing as you don't have crowded airports everywhere.

Try http://www.world-of-ai.com/ (http://www.world-of-ai.com/).

Well, that may be misleading. You have todownload the airline files seperately but can install them at once. Launch the installer and simply select the downloaded packages you want to install (hold "Strg")and click OK. The installer will install the selected packages. Another advantage of WoAI is that an older version of a - let's say United Airlines - package will be removed first when you decide to install a newer one. Also the "Expert Mode" allows you to remove a specific airline when it got bust in real life. It's just two clicks.
Title: Re: importing a new airline using Ultimate Traffic
Post by: iranair777 on January 14, 2009, 01:47:16 pm
...only downside is that you have to install each airline separately, but in some ways that's a good thing as you don't have crowded airports everywhere.

Try http://www.world-of-ai.com/ (http://www.world-of-ai.com/).

Well, that may be misleading. You have todownload the airline files seperately but can install them at once. Launch the installer and simply select the downloaded packages you want to install (hold "Strg")and click OK. The installer will install the selected packages. Another advantage of WoAI is that an older version of a - let's say United Airlines - package will be removed first when you decide to install a newer one. Also the "Expert Mode" allows you to remove a specific airline when it got bust in real life. It's just two clicks.

one thing with that; i you have a quite slow computer do not do that as your computer will probably be frozen for an hour if its quite a lot of packs
Title: Re: importing a new airline using Ultimate Traffic
Post by: zkvac on January 15, 2009, 11:08:03 am
one thing with that; i you have a quite slow computer do not do that as your computer will probably be frozen for an hour if its quite a lot of packs

If your comp does that I don't know how it copes with FS! :lol:
Title: Re: importing a new airline using Ultimate Traffic
Post by: AirHanoverInternational on January 15, 2009, 01:26:27 pm
If your comp does that I don't know how it copes with FS! :lol:

Hm, there are 470+ packages (incl. some airlines that ceased ops). I doubt your PC will install all those at once within less than twenty minutes. Even if it would take 3 seconds to install one package it will take more than 23 minutes in total.
Title: Re: importing a new airline using Ultimate Traffic
Post by: iranair777 on January 16, 2009, 01:39:23 pm
one thing with that; i you have a quite slow computer do not do that as your computer will probably be frozen for an hour if its quite a lot of packs

If your comp does that I don't know how it copes with FS! :lol:
Mine isnt slow, it happens to all PCs, even yours if your doing dozens of packages at once
Title: Re: importing a new airline using Ultimate Traffic
Post by: cyon20 on February 08, 2009, 02:01:18 pm
If I uninstall Ultimate Traffic and download some WoAI airlines, will the TTools still work?
Title: Re: importing a new airline using Ultimate Traffic
Post by: AirHanoverInternational on February 08, 2009, 08:45:40 pm
Yes, it will.

Some things to keep in mind.

If you are not familiar with adding textures and the [fltsim] entries in aircraft.cfg file do not add some to the WoAI aircraft folders as this may mess up the installer. But if you still decide to do so remove comments (lines that start with "//" )from the lines you add to the cfg file. It is even possible to make the WoAI installer recognizing your custom added traffic. Also you may use TTools to decompile the WoAI traffic files to add new flightplans and aircraft. This maybe helpful when you think the package is too old and you'd like to update - especially when the airline has a new paintscheme or added more aircrafts to its fleet.
Title: Re: importing a new airline using Ultimate Traffic
Post by: cyon20 on February 09, 2009, 12:07:15 am
Thanks for your help. I looked into the packages and wrote down the airlines I want to download, i have about 80!!! The planes actually moves around, right? And do the planes disappear after a certain amount of time? In UT, Seattle is probably the only airport that is really busy. but others, the planes just sit there for hours doing nothing. And while I'm waiting in line to takeoff at Seattle, some planes disappear b/c they wait too long. it seems like their "time is up" and then they disappear. Does this happen in WoAI?

Thanks for your help again!
Title: Re: importing a new airline using Ultimate Traffic
Post by: AirHanoverInternational on February 09, 2009, 07:18:45 am
The problem you describe is probably not caused by UT but by a faulty AFCAD. If you do not have the AFCAD tool by Lee Swordy (available from avsim) get it, open the airport you noticed disappearing aircraft, click on "Tools -> Fault finder" and run it. If it does not find faults come back here and I'll try to help you further. On the other hand - I just reread your post. Are you talking about waiting in queue before takeoff? And some aircraft waiting with you disappear suddenly? If this is the case the aircraft waited longer than 5 minutes. There is a tool out there that you can use to exceed this time given by Microsoft. But I do not use it so I dunno the name of.

The planes move around as if they were piloted by a human. Well, at least some kind of - Microsoft has some restrictions. WoAI aircraft follow real world flightplans. This means if an airport is closed at night you won't see any aircraft ops. But if you have a summer 2008 timetable of an airline you got a summer 2008 WoAI pack for you can check if their aircraft are on time ;)