Airline Mogul => Game Updates => Topic started by: StephenM on May 02, 2007, 07:43:03 pm
Title: 3 Game Broker Positions Available
Post by: StephenM on May 02, 2007, 07:43:03 pm
First 3 people to respond here with their User ID will get the broker positions.
Brokers:
B.AM (5)
OrangeAir (150)
Dragonair (156)
StarCross Airlines (235)
D Express (616)
:arrow: Get 10% off ALL planes ordered from new :arrow: Get 1/5 aircraft scrapped sent to you at 10% of the price (Yes thats a 90% discount!) and feel free to sell them on at market or discount rates.
Thats it for the moment but brokers can also operate normal airlines at the same time, the only disadvantage is you are automatically charged for any aircraft sent to you as scrap and you have no control over what you get, so if someone wants to scrap 100 Beech 1900D's, the chances are your going to end up with 20 of them![/list]
Title: Re: 3 Game Broker Positions Available
Post by: dktc on May 02, 2007, 07:50:24 pm
Quote from: "StephenM"
:arrow: Get 1/5 aircraft scrapped sent to you at 10% of the price (Yes thats a 90% discount!)
Is that 10% of listed price or 10% of depreciated value? Also, can brokers scrap their planes? If they could, where would the planes go? (back to the brokers?) And what would the value of the brokers' scrapes be?
Anyway, count me in. ID 616
Title: Re: 3 Game Broker Positions Available
Post by: StephenM on May 02, 2007, 07:59:01 pm
Quote from: "dktc"
Quote from: "StephenM"
:arrow: Get 1/5 aircraft scrapped sent to you at 10% of the price (Yes thats a 90% discount!)
Is that 10% of listed price or 10% of depreciated value? Also, can brokers scrap their planes? If they could, where would the planes go? (back to the brokers?) And what would the value of the brokers' scrapes be?
Anyway, count me in. ID 616
Good questions;
Firstly its 10% of the depreciated value (The value at time of scrapping) Brokers have an option to scrap but it goes to other brokers or yourself so watch out!
Title: Re: 3 Game Broker Positions Available
Post by: dktc on May 02, 2007, 08:14:17 pm
Quote from: "StephenM"
Brokers have an option to scrap but it goes to other brokers or yourself so watch out!
So the planes would always remain in the world? Or is there a way to take some of them off? I mean there will be a point where no one would use some models... and before someone say that the classical planes have to remain; frankly, we would sell/lease the planes (and make $) if there is the demand :wink:
Title: 3 Game Broker Positions Available
Post by: StephenM on May 02, 2007, 08:21:20 pm
Only I can get rid of them.
Title: 3 Game Broker Positions Available
Post by: dktc on May 02, 2007, 08:23:49 pm
K, thx :D
Title: 3 Game Broker Positions Available
Post by: SCA CEO on May 02, 2007, 11:19:32 pm
StarCross Airlines ID: 235
Title: 3 Game Broker Positions Available
Post by: MrOrange on May 03, 2007, 02:11:06 am
OrangeAir, ID 150
Title: 3 Game Broker Positions Available
Post by: Air Elbonia on May 03, 2007, 02:17:02 am
damn classes. i've been collecting old aircraft. >_> 333 if you find a fourth spot or someone backs out.
Title: 3 Game Broker Positions Available
Post by: d1-3508 on May 03, 2007, 03:56:11 am
More to the point, shouldn't there be a broker's market?
Title: 3 Game Broker Positions Available
Post by: Air Elbonia on May 03, 2007, 09:18:04 am
hmm... does the broker own ac #2, dash-8-300 i believe, by any chance? I'd like that plane (though i suppose it's a better case-study for whomever has it to keep it).
Title: 3 Game Broker Positions Available
Post by: d1-3508 on May 03, 2007, 09:25:47 am
I have an idea, why don't we have a list of members who want to be a broker, and then a poll, with the top 3 (most voted for) becoming brokers.
Title: 3 Game Broker Positions Available
Post by: StephenM on May 03, 2007, 01:18:53 pm
Quote from: "Air Elbonia"
hmm... does the broker own ac #2, dash-8-300 i believe, by any chance? I'd like that plane (though i suppose it's a better case-study for whomever has it to keep it).
Aircraft #2 is with User #2, who hasn't logged in since the last reset.
Quote from: "d1-3508"
I have an idea, why don't we have a list of members who want to be a broker, and then a poll, with the top 3 (most voted for) becoming brokers.
What criteria would we have for who votes for who? I'm all equal opportunities!
Title: 3 Game Broker Positions Available
Post by: SCA CEO on May 03, 2007, 01:20:30 pm
Am I broker yet? When I first started the game, I set my status as broker. So I think I should be a Broker because I'm not only trying to do the job, but also I'm labeled as one.
Title: 3 Game Broker Positions Available
Post by: dktc on May 03, 2007, 01:57:06 pm
Quote from: "d1-3508"
I have an idea, why don't we have a list of members who want to be a broker, and then a poll, with the top 3 (most voted for) becoming brokers.
1. There are only like a dosen or so players who are active in forum... so would the vote be representable?
2. Do you really want a popularity contest? People's feelings would get hurt.
3. Maybe next time you should run it through StephenM in private, and before he post it. Afterall you are one of his admins, and nothing can change after people have responded to StephenM's post.
Title: 3 Game Broker Positions Available
Post by: StephenM on May 03, 2007, 02:20:45 pm
Quote from: "SCA CEO"
Am I broker yet? When I first started the game, I set my status as broker. So I think I should be a Broker because I'm not only trying to do the job, but also I'm labeled as one.
To be honest I cant really remember why I put that thing in. I will add you as a broker now, I delayed while getting rid of the critical bug (All planes going to B.AM)
Quote from: "d1-3508"
More to the point, shouldn't there be a broker's market?
Yes, I have been thinking about this as some aircraft being sold on the market are new and are not "used".
Quote
Cant find the post but I thought there was one about requirements of being a broker
When I get a chance I'll add requirements that you have to have a certain proportion of profits/sales on the market so that you are not just abusing the Broker position to get cheap planes for yourself and operate as normal.
Title: 3 Game Broker Positions Available
Post by: StephenM on May 03, 2007, 02:39:09 pm
Note: The bugs posted here have been moved to a new forum.
Title: 3 Game Broker Positions Available
Post by: SCA CEO on May 03, 2007, 11:24:06 pm
Oh cool! So how do I get a sticky on an official thread for me? All of a sudden everyone has fancy stuff and I've got... well I've got nothing. I'm really new to this, so how would I set this all up?
Title: 3 Game Broker Positions Available
Post by: StephenM on May 03, 2007, 11:27:21 pm
Quote from: "SCA CEO"
Oh cool! So how do I get a sticky on an official thread for me? All of a sudden everyone has fancy stuff and I've got... well I've got nothing. I'm really new to this, so how would I set this all up?
Make a thread, send me a PM if I dont get to it first and I will sticky it. - I found your thread (Just had to look :lol:) so thats sorted.
Infact what do people think about a brokerage section to the forum?
Title: 3 Game Broker Positions Available
Post by: SCA CEO on May 03, 2007, 11:30:03 pm
Do it. Make it so that the only threads in that forum are the official broker threads.
Title: 3 Game Broker Positions Available
Post by: MrOrange on May 03, 2007, 11:32:39 pm
Oow, I like. That would make things much, much more clear
Title: 3 Game Broker Positions Available
Post by: SCA CEO on May 03, 2007, 11:35:09 pm
Also, what should we do about compeitition? I think all the brokers should work together.
People will want Widebodied aircraft, so I think that one broker should only sell A340's and A330's, another B777's and B744's. So on and so forth. Of course since there are only 4 brokers and a lot of wide bodied aircraft and more to come out soon the list would be bigger and there would always be a market for everyone because people will definitely have different preferences.
Title: 3 Game Broker Positions Available
Post by: dktc on May 03, 2007, 11:38:34 pm
True... but I also think some people would want narrow bodies or even regional jets (leases). Given StephenM's preference of us dealing with new players, and being a recent newbie, I kind of think that way.
I agree in working together... let me know what you guys would sell and I would see to the others :wink:
BTW, the best solution is that all plane deals have to go through us... but I don't think other players would agree to that :P
Title: 3 Game Broker Positions Available
Post by: StephenM on May 03, 2007, 11:40:53 pm
Quote from: "SCA CEO"
Also, what should we do about compeitition? I think all the brokers should work together.
We are barely 24hrs into testing the feature and already you have a cartel. :lol:
Quote from: "dktc"
Given StephenM's preference of us dealing with new players, and being a recent newbie, I kind of think that way.
Your there to help people out partly those who are starting off, when registration is re-opened you'll find demand for the smaller types and especially leasing of larger types.
All brokers are now mods of the Broker forum located here (http://stephenm.org/forum/viewforum.php?f=24).
Title: 3 Game Broker Positions Available
Post by: SCA CEO on May 03, 2007, 11:46:28 pm
Yeah, we should split up aircraft manufacters evenly so that some brokers aren't preferred over others because of "better deals".
That would defeat the purpose of having multiple brokers and it would get to a point where people are losing profits. Of course we should all agree on a system of price setting first and nothing too ridiculous.
Title: 3 Game Broker Positions Available
Post by: MrOrange on May 03, 2007, 11:47:20 pm
I mainly have big ones available, so it might be best if I keep to that. You can see what I'm selling in my thread, all of 'em are widebodies, except from the 734ER and the ATR-72-200, which I had in my fleet before I became a broker. I probably have the most cash available, looking at the rankings, so large planes would be easier for me to get I'd guess.
Nothing against dealing with newbies (having played AirlineSim, it's really hard to get a decent plane in Europe), but I don't really have much to offer to them at this moment.
And about the cartel thing, mrs. Kroes will be coming down on us real hard, but it's worth it :lol:
Title: 3 Game Broker Positions Available
Post by: SCA CEO on May 03, 2007, 11:48:07 pm
Question:What kind of a transactions should go in the broker forum then? What would it be used for exactly cause I would like to get situated :).
WAIT! I have an idea! We should broker to our regions! We should broker all aircraft to our specific regions as people are only allowed to operate within their continents same should go for brokers. This would lighten the load for everyone.
Maybe it won't work, but that's just some thinking I've been doing.
And as far as wide-body goes, I started brokering wide-body, and I'll finish brokering wide-body. :) Right now I'm filling orders for MD-11's and other large aircraft. You can probably who placed the order for the large aircraft. :)
Title: 3 Game Broker Positions Available
Post by: StephenM on May 03, 2007, 11:50:45 pm
I've moved all the broker threads in there, and for general broker transactions (Not sure what else!) so that if 2 ordinary airlines want to buy/sell they have one area and if they want to go to a broker for help then they go to your forums.
Its up to you to moderate them, let me know if you can/cant move threads.
Quote from: "SCA CEO"
WAIT! I have an idea! We should broker to our regions! We should broker all aircraft to our specific regions as people are only allowed to operate within their continents same should go for brokers. This would lighten the load for everyone.
Thats a great idea, but I it would be hard to implement it. It would mean allowing brokers to only sell planes in their regions, if people are happy with that then I should be able to work around it.
Title: 3 Game Broker Positions Available
Post by: MrOrange on May 03, 2007, 11:51:08 pm
PLEASE DO NOT DELETE OTHER BROKER'S THREADS! :lol:
Title: 3 Game Broker Positions Available
Post by: SCA CEO on May 03, 2007, 11:53:11 pm
My prices are non-negotiable. I retail aircraft and I'll set them to the game's current climate.
Title: 3 Game Broker Positions Available
Post by: dktc on May 03, 2007, 11:54:03 pm
Quote from: "SCA CEO"
WAIT! I have an idea! We should broker to our regions! We should broker all aircraft to our specific regions as people are only allowed to operate within their continents same should go for brokers. This would lighten the load for everyone.
Don't know if you have looked at your recent competition or not... but Dragonair (C.Durgut), you and myself are all based in Asia :wink:
Title: 3 Game Broker Positions Available
Post by: StephenM on May 03, 2007, 11:54:19 pm
Quote from: "MrOrange"
EDIT: Stephen beat me :) And I can moderate it.
I've made so many posts over the past 30mins I am getting lost. :lol:
Quote from: "MrOrange"
PLEASE DO NOT DELETE OTHER BROKER'S THREADS! :lol:
Haha, thats where trust comes in, lucky your only mods in 1 forum!
Quote from: "dktc"
Don't know if you have looked at your recent competition or not... but Dragonair (C.Durgut), you and myself are all based in Asia :wink:
Depends on if you have a fight to the death or go for price fixing.
Title: 3 Game Broker Positions Available
Post by: MrOrange on May 04, 2007, 12:01:46 am
I don't really like fights to the death, so let's go for price fixing :lol:
Title: 3 Game Broker Positions Available
Post by: SCA CEO on May 04, 2007, 12:03:15 am
I fixed all my prices at where they are. C. Durgut is just being silly, truthfully, I don't want to be competeing with a kid I see in class everyday. It's going to get awkward.
Title: 3 Game Broker Positions Available
Post by: dktc on May 04, 2007, 12:03:21 am
Quote from: "MrOrange"
I don't really like fights to the death, so let's go for price fixing :lol:
Agree! Say 100% of market price? (j/k) :lol:
Title: 3 Game Broker Positions Available
Post by: StephenM on May 04, 2007, 12:03:44 am
Quote from: "MrOrange"
I don't really like fights to the death, so let's go for price fixing :lol:
Awh, no fun in that. Its up to you lot what you want to do, I dont have anti-competitive restrctions on you really.
Title: 3 Game Broker Positions Available
Post by: SCA CEO on May 04, 2007, 12:05:42 am
This is gonna stink for me because I'm not too good at competition.
Title: 3 Game Broker Positions Available
Post by: MrOrange on May 04, 2007, 12:08:07 am
Oh, I thought there were some restrictions such as not killing each other and so on, but I'll have fun either way :twisted: :lol:
@SCA: Oh, you'll get good at it :)
Title: 3 Game Broker Positions Available
Post by: SCA CEO on May 04, 2007, 12:09:33 am
This is gonna get bloody I can already see the headlines:
"Brokers send unmanned Aircraft as missiles at each other in an attempt to defray one another's businesses."
Title: 3 Game Broker Positions Available
Post by: dktc on May 04, 2007, 12:11:58 am
You all can fight for the lucrative long-haul market. I will keep to CRJ's :lol: So... don't missile me :P
Title: 3 Game Broker Positions Available
Post by: SCA CEO on May 04, 2007, 12:13:00 am
CRJ's make excellent cruise missiles.
Title: 3 Game Broker Positions Available
Post by: dktc on May 04, 2007, 12:13:55 am
Except they can't reach Mr Orange :P
Title: 3 Game Broker Positions Available
Post by: SCA CEO on May 04, 2007, 12:15:31 am
True. He's lucky. Well, you can always grab an MD-11 or two and send them over the north pole. But they aren't CRJ's. :)
Title: 3 Game Broker Positions Available
Post by: MrOrange on May 04, 2007, 06:42:12 am
LOL :lol: It's just that I have the most cashflow at this moment, so It'd be easier for me to go long-haul and let you sell the small ones. But I'll send a couple of 744's (unmanned, obviously) over to ya :)
Title: 3 Game Broker Positions Available
Post by: SQ748 on May 05, 2007, 06:41:38 pm
Well, all I have to say is a big Congrats to these three brokers. I look forward to purchasing more aircraft from you guys (at a good price of course :wink: )
Title: 3 Game Broker Positions Available
Post by: MrOrange on May 05, 2007, 06:48:59 pm
Thanks, we're looking forward to doing business with you :D
Title: 3 Game Broker Positions Available
Post by: SQ748 on May 05, 2007, 06:56:17 pm
You have my customer loyalty! (with a few exceptions from SCA)
Title: 3 Game Broker Positions Available
Post by: MrOrange on May 05, 2007, 07:02:57 pm
Good to hear that :) It'll be worthwile to you too, I promise that :D
Title: 3 Game Broker Positions Available
Post by: SCA CEO on May 05, 2007, 08:12:16 pm
Keep in mind MrOrange, I'm 2nd to you in cash flow, so you're not all that big. :P
Title: 3 Game Broker Positions Available
Post by: MrOrange on May 05, 2007, 09:24:27 pm
Even second place can be way behind :P But truth is, I don't really care about those positions, as long as the three of us are having fun and can improve the gameplay for the other players, I'm a happy camper.
Title: 3 Game Broker Positions Available
Post by: SCA CEO on May 06, 2007, 07:42:12 am
Yeah I know. :P
Title: 3 Game Broker Positions Available
Post by: SQ748 on May 08, 2007, 03:36:22 am
Cmon now guys! I know you're both great brokers (and dktc as well), so why fight? If I were you guys, I would be focusing on making more incentives for a/c and the such :lol: Btw, use the CONCORDE as a cruise missile! (why didn't anybody think of it sooner? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: )
Title: 3 Game Broker Positions Available
Post by: dktc on May 08, 2007, 11:25:42 am
Quote from: "SQ748"
If I were you guys, I would be focusing on making more incentives for a/c and the such :lol:
You mean more incentive for us when we sell a plane? :lol:
Quote from: "SQ748"
Btw, use the CONCORDE as a cruise missile! (why didn't anybody think of it sooner? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: )
Nah... the fuel cost too much :P
Title: 3 Game Broker Positions Available
Post by: StephenM on May 08, 2007, 12:06:30 pm
Quote from: "dktc"
Quote from: "SQ748"
Btw, use the CONCORDE as a cruise missile! (why didn't anybody think of it sooner? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: )
Nah... the fuel cost too much :P
4,050lbs per hour I think. A 732 is 796lbs/hr
Title: 3 Game Broker Positions Available
Post by: SQ748 on May 09, 2007, 03:01:07 am
I can't believe I'm actually making a profit with the 2 Concordes I leased a couple days ago....
Title: 3 Game Broker Positions Available
Post by: SCA CEO on May 09, 2007, 03:04:36 am
Oh yeah, they'll do that with some routes.
Title: 3 Game Broker Positions Available
Post by: Air Elbonia on May 14, 2007, 11:14:47 pm
single frequency and proper distances/populations... yeah you can make money. shock and awe.
Title: 3 Game Broker Positions Available
Post by: SCA CEO on May 14, 2007, 11:25:10 pm
Uhmmm, I don't have the broker ordering page anymore.