Airline Mogul Forum
Airline Mogul => Bugs => Topic started by: dktc on April 25, 2007, 01:21:36 am
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I don't know if any of you have noticed but a number of airports in Europe have run out of gates. I am not only talking about some popular airports, but also several small ones. For example, there is no way all 50 gates at Alta, Norway (ALF) are used. There are only 21 flight frequency used by 9 airlines. Large airports like LHR, ZRH, AMS, BCN, CPH..... and some more has also run out all of a sudden. Now, I am not based in Europe but I do keep an eye on the gates for future development. There are reasons to believe the gates were rented by player(s) without utilizing them. Correct me if I am wrong but admins, please take a look at the situation.
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Strange. i found two seemingly hogging 'dead'ish airlines, but none of the gates you mention are hogged by them. 355 with Atlanta, 320 with Barcelona.
oh and there appears to be some kind of multi situation based in poland (Łódź-Lublinek) as there's a string of airlines based there (5-8) with the exact same amount of negative net worth.
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I did notice Barcelona (BCN)... it is actually on the my list on the previous post. I didn't bother listing all the airport with 0 gates and I am too lazy to check each player one by one :P .
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Moved to bugs.
TO ALL USERS:
IF you return excess gates (within the next 5 days), we will let you keep your airline.
IF you do NOT return those gates, you will be banned or deleted.
THAT IS A WARNING.
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d1, that's for an excess of (at least) 5x gate's im guessing?
As i have a few gates not being used (simply, possible future routes) , so thats no problem for me?, just making sure im not deleted for keeping gates not being used :roll:
cheers,
-tom
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Yes, it is 5 gates max. (that includes over all airports, so if you have 1 extra gate in MEL, SYD, BNE, ADL & PER, you will have to return your extra DRW gate.)
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I have 12 gates at Bejing and Ghuanzao. I'm not using all of them at the moment, but I do plan on it as I've used about 40 percent of both and am making more routes. I have to return those don't I?
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You will most likely have to return at least 6 of those gates.
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Well, I can't because Ghuanzao has less than 70 available slots and Beijing has less than 60. I can take away 3, 4 for each.
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Can anyone come up with a novel method of checking (Regularly) if gates are not utilised that would not have to be done the same way as costs, DOP, date change, aircraft aging, aircraft delivery etc is done (ie A script is run hourly/daily) because I am just afraid of having problems of the game "Pausing" regularly because there are too many calculations to carry out in one go.
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Maybe having a checkbox system, where we can check X, Y & Z airlines at once?
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Maybe having a checkbox system, where we can check X, Y & Z airlines at once?
If your happy to check all 400 airlines daily I might be able to code it. :D
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Yeah, that's fine. I have an hour here and there, so it'll be possible.
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Maybe having a checkbox system, where we can check X, Y & Z airlines at once?
If your happy to check all 400 airlines daily I might be able to code it. :D
uh. from the sounds of it you need to simply code a half-decent (or basic) admin control panel.
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uh. from the sounds of it you need to simply code a half-decent (or basic) admin control panel.
Yeah, there are a few features but most of it is done from the database and only I have access to the database.
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Time's up.
The following airports are on my hit list:
LCJ - Łódź-Lublinek - 50 gates
AAL - Aalborg Airport - 50 gates
AAR - Aarhus Airport - 50 gates
ABZ - Aberdeen - 100 gates
AES - Alesund Vigra - 50 gates
ALC - Alicante - 150 gates
LEI - Almeria - 100 gates
ALF - Alta - 50 gates
AOC - Altenburg - 50 gates
AMS - Amsterdam - 250 gates
AYT - Antalya - 200 gates
ATH - Athens - 200 gates
BCN - Barcelona - 250 gates
BRU - Brussels - 250 gates
CPH - Copenhagen-Köbenhavn - 250 gates
LHR - London Heathrow - 300 gates
LTN - London Luton - 150 gates
PMI - Palma de Mallorca - 250 gates
PRG - Prague Ruzyne - 200 gates
FCO - Rome - 250 gates
ARN - Stockholm-Arlanda - 250 gates
STR - Stuttgart - 150 gates
VIE - Vienna - 250 gates
ZRH - Zurich - 250 gates
SAT - San Antonio - 150 gates
RSW - Fort Myers - 150 gates
For all the above gates, I want:
How many gates you have out of the amount above, and how much you are using them.
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read as appears on gates page.
SAT San Antonio 0 139
RSW Fort Myers 0 129
(you ain't getting them back, they're in full use).
all other gates listed, 0-1 gates, 1 frequency min if owned as they don't appear on my 'select returnable gates' page.
edit: i threw the names of about 10 inactive, substantially negative cash value airlines based out of the very first one listed in a pm, due to other concerns.
edit2: here's a little help:
Barcelona: look at ID 320, they have 56 gates there, but only 26 listed flights from it (they appear to be using 64 slots out of 560 available to them). Also they're steeply negative, my guess is inactive (but that's not my decision).
341 123fly 123 pax €-29,400,000 549
342 SEMAIR SEY pax €-29,400,000 576
343 flyfun fly pax €-29,400,000 550
344 Sk LIN SKL pax €-29,400,000 551
345 Air Future AAI pax €-29,400,000 558
346 Air Walk AIX pax €-29,400,000 562
347 Airline 1 AXX pax €-29,400,000 564
348 Dicki Air DIC pax €-29,400,000 569
349 UMU UMU pax €-29,400,000 571
350 Johston Air JOH pax €-29,400,000 572
351 Joke Air JOK pax €-29,400,000 573
352 MirAir MRA pax €-29,400,000 574
353 AirCal CAl pax €-29,400,000 575
354 WALTAIR XXX pax €-29,400,000 578
10 of these are based on LCJ (the others seem to be based in problem cities primarily). they also all have 0 aircraft, and identical debts. (fishy?) that's 20 of the 50 gates at LCJ identified.
edit3: I realize southampton is not identified on your list, but ID=604 has 11 gates there, 0 flights anywhere.
Maxxline has 5 gates at rsw, uses 28 slots (note, if freed, i can and will expand further in RSW, likely returning it to 0 within 24 hours. mmm. planes.)
Manchester isn't on the list, but it has 0 flights anywhere, 0 planes, and 8 gates at manchester (plus a few misc.)
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For all the above gates, I want:
How many gates you have out of the amount above, and how much you are using them.
You want all of us to post here? :shock:
Oh well...
(Airport Code, Airport Name, Slots Available, Gates )
AMS Amsterdam 8 1
CPH Copenhagen - Köbenhavn 8 1
LHR London Heathrow 6 1
FCO Rome 8 1
ARN Stockholm-Arlanda 8 1
VIE Vienna 8 1
All of them are served from KHI and LHE. (LHR also served from HKG and CTU).
I am interested in serving PMI, but can't get a gate :(
On a side note, when returning a plane, I have noticed the followings:
"The routes on this plane has been closed. Slots have NOT been returned." (or something similar...)
This is what is causing the tie up of flight times in players' planes, and may play a role in tying up gates too (because slots aren't freed). I am not sure on that because I deleted all my routes manually before returning the plane.
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Can anyone come up with a novel method of checking (Regularly) if gates are not utilised that would not have to be done the same way as costs, DOP, date change, aircraft aging, aircraft delivery etc is done (ie A script is run hourly/daily) because I am just afraid of having problems of the game "Pausing" regularly because there are too many calculations to carry out in one go.
Uh, you could borrow a page from AE's book and create a utilization statistic for the view_airline page. This would be pretty public, and only needs to be calculated whenever a new route is created and/or a new gate is purchased. In fact if you want to be really advanced, once a day you simply have the system do a quick check where anything with <50% utilization & >=10 gates sends a flagging auto-message to your 2 site admins. (should keep the major idiotic hogging down, or at least watched better)
EDIT: update RE: SAT. quick excel math says noone has returnable gates at SAT at present. all slots present and accounted for (though about 63 slots are unused, they're from airlines using at least 1 frequency less then their 10 alloted).
edit2: unless my math is grossly off... RSW somehow has 153 gates. >_> all but 2 in practical use levels (1freq minimum), 2 spare being found in Maxxline as listed earlier.... but yet that comes to a total of over 1500 slots in use. -_- yeah. it's a little strange to me.
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ARN-Stolkholm 1 1
AMS-Amsterdam 1 2
CPH-Copenhagen-Kobenhavn 1 1
LHR-London Heathrow 1 3
FCO-Rome 1 2
That's all I have, 1 gate from each of those.
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http://www.airlinemogul.com/airlinemogul/view_airline.php?id=312
i found every last one that's definitely missing, though i have a theory as to a few other shortchanges in the game.
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Email sent to the user, we'll see what happens.
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i'm sorry ... but i think all gates in africa and almost all gates in asia is zeroed ... :(
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i'm sorry ... but i think all gates in africa and almost all gates in asia is zeroed ... :(
They will automatically be returned at the next month change.
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i have a problem with Jet Pro Trying to hog gates at Montreal
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FCO - Rome - I have 18 gates and utilisation is 99%
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i have a problem with Jet Pro Trying to hog gates at Montreal
Don't just accuse one airline. It is not fair. At least 3 airlines have routes that fall into "gate hogging' category.
And please use private messaging for this.
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I wrote a msg. to you or another admin yesterday about an airline abusing 0.5-frequencies on the Hannover - Istanbul Atatürk route, but nothing seems to have happened yet...
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Lean back. That's really all. Things will happen, but you have to understand it will take time.
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I wrote a msg. to you or another admin yesterday about an airline abusing 0.5-frequencies on the Hannover - Istanbul Atatürk route, but nothing seems to have happened yet...
Dont worry I recieved it and took action (or tried to before AM went down)
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I wrote a msg. to you or another admin yesterday about an airline abusing 0.5-frequencies on the Hannover - Istanbul Atatürk route, but nothing seems to have happened yet...
Things are happening http://stephenm.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1796
and what MrOrange said.
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Tha same is happening in Lisbon. I am trying to expand my airline but I can't because there are no gates avaliable (And I have no money yeat to build a terminal)... but there are many airlines there using most of the times 3 and 4 0.5 frequencies for the same destination...
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Tha same is happening in Lisbon. I am trying to expand my airline but I can't because there are no gates avaliable (And I have no money yeat to build a terminal)... but there are many airlines there using most of the times 3 and 4 0.5 frequencies for the same destination...
pm /email me with the Airline ID's / names
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I've sent you a PM.
I guess that I solved my gates problem by building my own terminal...