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Airline Mogul => General Chat => Topic started by: thescene on June 15, 2008, 01:47:54 am

Title: Scrap
Post by: thescene on June 15, 2008, 01:47:54 am: I noticed that I have an option to "scrap" one of my planes. What exactly happens if I select this option? What are the advantages & disadvantages of doing this?
Title: Scrap
Post by: dktc on June 15, 2008, 02:45:01 am: You get about 10~15% of the value of the plane in cash.

Advantage: you get rid of the plane instantly.
Disadvantage: Seeing that the minimum price on the market for reselling is 50% value, if you could get rid of the plane on market, you get quite a bit more. However, you might have to wait a while until someone buys it.
Title: Scrap
Post by: Jps on June 15, 2008, 06:03:14 am: DO NOT scrap. As dktc said, you only get 10-15% value back. Sell on the market for 50%. Much more return. The wait isn't that long... :lol:
Title: Scrap
Post by: Klose on June 15, 2008, 06:16:52 am: Don't forget that your airline value drops when you scrap aircraft.
Title: Scrap
Post by: dktc on June 15, 2008, 09:02:29 am: Quote from: "Jps"
The wait isn't that long... :lol:

Misleading :roll:
Title: Scrap
Post by: Cheung Airlines on June 15, 2008, 09:14:09 am: Quote from: "dktc"
Quote from: "Jps"
The wait isn't that long... :lol:

Misleading :roll:

it depends :wink:

I've scrapped some Super 10B before cos they are too old :D
Title: Scrap
Post by: Virgin Serbia on June 15, 2008, 09:26:34 am: Quote from: "Cheung Airlines"
Quote from: "dktc"
Quote from: "Jps"
The wait isn't that long... :lol:

Misleading :roll:

it depends :wink:

I've scrapped some Super 10B before cos they are too old :D

I've scrapped some Tu-134 before cos nobody wanted to buy them. Not even if price was €10.000.000 :cry:
Title: Scrap
Post by: zkvac on June 15, 2008, 10:30:36 am: Try sell them, if they don't sell after ages, scrap 'em.
Title: Scrap
Post by: dktc on June 15, 2008, 11:13:41 am: Just s little caution... if you put them on market, you still pay maintenance. As a result, scrapping may not be that bad an idea. However, you should check out the market first, of course.
Title: Scrap
Post by: Cheung Airlines on June 15, 2008, 11:39:45 am: Quote from: "dktc"
Just s little caution... if you put them on market, you still pay maintenance. As a result, scrapping may not be that bad an idea. However, you should check out the market first, of course.

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Well, scrapping planes aren't that bad because you can get some money no matter how old / unpopular your plane is

*Slapping myself* :oops:
Title: Scrap
Post by: thescene on June 15, 2008, 04:00:51 pm: Well my main concern is the high maintenance costs of my airline especially for my older planes. I guess it would be better for me to have them in service earning some of those costs back over it sitting idle for sale.
Title: Scrap
Post by: Jps on June 16, 2008, 04:43:46 am: Age does not matter. I would rather buy an old Caravelle that costs 50% than dktc's 133% 737-200 :lol:
Title: Scrap
Post by: Cheung Airlines on June 16, 2008, 06:19:22 am: Is it easy to sell 30 5-year-old Caravelle and B-722?
I don't think so..... 8)
Title: Scrap
Post by: dktc on June 16, 2008, 01:14:14 pm: Quote from: "Jps"
dktc's 133% 737-200 :lol:

eh?? 133% 737-200? You mean from you?
Title: Scrap
Post by: thescene on June 18, 2008, 01:25:10 am: Is there a way by which I can find out how much maintenance is for each aircraft? That way I will be able to determine if it's better for me to just scrap a plane, keep it on the market or continue flying it.
Title: Scrap
Post by: Jps on June 18, 2008, 05:55:15 am: Keep on market... at about 70%... Don't scrap it. When you scrap it.. it goes to the brokers. The brokers then put the plane on the market for 133%. Now you don't want that to happen :lol:

The maintenance... is in fact very low. Except of course if you're flying a 747
Title: Scrap
Post by: Chavaquiah on June 18, 2008, 08:14:31 am: Quote from: "Jps"
The maintenance... is in fact very low.

Yeah, right. That's why you're shedding money like there's no tomorrow. :lol:
Title: Scrap
Post by: Jps on June 18, 2008, 10:50:03 am: You mean GRN in W3? Im doomed lol. I have like a hundred 737s and 50 caravelles.. It's different :lol:
Title: Scrap
Post by: Wizzie on June 18, 2008, 11:03:02 am: Jps you're not doomed you're just trying to get attention :lol:
It won't work :lol:
Title: Scrap
Post by: Cheung Airlines on June 18, 2008, 11:20:54 am: If you will buy my 15 DC-8-61 and 15 DC-10 at once without complaining, I will sell them to you (Hamsters, I mean :lol: ) without thinking (at lowest price)
Title: Scrap
Post by: yourefired on June 18, 2008, 11:37:53 am: I may have to scrap my concordes that I'm not operating anymore due to cost considerations. My profit margin went from like 55% to like 35% so I'm looking for any way to cut costs. We'll see. My other cost-cutting strategy is replacing my DC9s and MD82s with A320s in the near future...we'll see how that works out.
Title: Scrap
Post by: thescene on June 18, 2008, 12:35:42 pm: Well maybe I should put my oldest plane on sale slapping a competitive price on it. If it does not sell after a year or so then I scrap it.
Title: Scrap
Post by: Jps on June 18, 2008, 03:11:14 pm: Quote from: "Wizzie"
Jps you're not doomed you're just trying to get attention :lol:
It won't work :lol:
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Really? See below.

DOP   €2,104,206
Airline Cash   €-1,773,802,248
Airline Value   €1,675,639,819

Loadfactor   27.75%
Date   2 Mar 1975

World   Public World #3
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Don't scrap.. only gives 12.5%... sell on market for 50% :lol:
Title: Scrap
Post by: Cheung Airlines on June 19, 2008, 10:43:01 am: Quote from: "Jps"
Don't scrap.. only gives 12.5%... sell on market for 50% :lol:

*Yawn*
Getting tired of hearing this sentence from Jps / a talkative animal :lol:

[The first part is true, but the second part is joking]
Title: Scrap
Post by: Wizzie on June 19, 2008, 10:45:29 am: Quote from: "Jps"
Loadfactor 27.75%

There's your problem :roll:
Title: Scrap
Post by: Jps on June 19, 2008, 10:53:25 am: Quote from: "Wizzie"
Quote from: "Jps"
Loadfactor 27.75%

There's your problem :roll:

:lol: No actually.. with 27.75% im earning profit with the routes.. but the sales aren't working lol
Title: Scrap
Post by: Cheung Airlines on June 19, 2008, 12:03:45 pm: cos people are selling planes cheaper than you, I guess.

Hmmm.... Your planes are too normal and there are many of them sitting in the tarmac, wainting to be sold or leased. Try some newer planes or ( Why don't you thought of that? ) post a topic in this forum and try to sell your planes ( cheaper price ).