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Airline Mogul => General Chat => Topic started by: AustraliaConnect on April 23, 2008, 02:21:43 pm

Title: WHAT JUST HAPPENED!!!
Post by: AustraliaConnect on April 23, 2008, 02:21:43 pm
:x  :evil:  - I just started a new day... on World 3 just then...
ANd my airline cash went from €9,000,000 to €-51,125,226
WHATS RONG...?
Im tired of waking up in the morning and having a measly 1 mil cash...
IM PISSED!!!
Title: WHAT JUST HAPPENED!!!
Post by: herrgoda on April 23, 2008, 02:38:58 pm
Time to look at your finances, i reckon. Cut leasing costs, get rid of surplus gates, all that stuff
Title: WHAT JUST HAPPENED!!!
Post by: StephenM on April 23, 2008, 02:40:24 pm
I dont see anything strange in the finances? Your costs seem to have gone up quite a bit in the last 3 months, but nothing strange appart from a while pile of new gates.
Title: WHAT JUST HAPPENED!!!
Post by: Dora on April 23, 2008, 06:33:58 pm
Save up some of your cash at the end of the month, and you will miss the minus sign.
Title: WHAT JUST HAPPENED!!!
Post by: zkvac on April 24, 2008, 11:02:33 am
Planes shouldn't be leased unless absolutely necessary- they simply cost too much, leaving you with negative cash at the end of the month.
Title: WHAT JUST HAPPENED!!!
Post by: dktc on April 24, 2008, 12:58:18 pm
Quote from: "zkvac"
Planes shouldn't be leased unless absolutely necessary- they simply cost too much, leaving you with negative cash at the end of the month.


As I have illustrated once, that is not always true. You just have to evaluate the lease rate before leasing a plane. :roll:
Title: WHAT JUST HAPPENED!!!
Post by: Wiseman on April 24, 2008, 01:33:41 pm
It is true.... just make sure you do the maths right. Remember, AM only have 24 days per month.

Leasing will help you if: you know how much money you will make with that plane in certain routes.

If you never lease any planes... you will take a looooooooooong time to get your first jet.

For example:

normally a 500 nm route will gives you a $100,000 return in 6 frequencies a day with 50-seater passenger plane. If you can cope with the competition, you'll at least earn $ 2,000,000 per month (assume that your DOP is decreasing due to increasing competition). And in world 4, i found that the market rate to lease a 50-seater plane is between 800,000 to 1,200,000 (Dehaviland Canada (now Bombardier) Dash 8Q300). Leasing rate <$ 1,000,000 is a very good deal for sure. Cause you'll be making $ 1,000,000 more every month from that leased Dash 8Q300.

Now leasing doesn't seem too risky isn't it?

Plane owners, if you have a very marketable aircraft (e.g. ATR-72, Dash8Q300, and Boeing 737), instead of selling them out, why not lease? You'll get constant revenue no? Unless you need the money immidiately. (i tell you this because i found that the used aircraft sales market is far bigger than the leasing market here, which is a bit funny).
Title: WHAT JUST HAPPENED!!!
Post by: dktc on April 24, 2008, 02:11:10 pm
Marketable planes could be sold for 133% it's cost, which mean if I sell 3, I could buy 4 and sell those and buy 5 with money left. Selling could be quite profitable because it snowballs.
Title: WHAT JUST HAPPENED!!!
Post by: Dora on April 25, 2008, 06:16:19 pm
Quote from: "dktc"
Quote from: "zkvac"
Planes shouldn't be leased unless absolutely necessary- they simply cost too much, leaving you with negative cash at the end of the month.


As I have illustrated once, that is not always true. You just have to evaluate the lease rate before leasing a plane. :roll:


When we go into a supermarket, we look at the price of the goods. It is the player's fault for not looking after their own finance. 8)
Title: WHAT JUST HAPPENED!!!
Post by: yourefired on April 27, 2008, 08:27:34 am
My maintenance costs are 87 million euros. This is ridiculous. I should have never leased out the 9 caravelles I bought a couple days ago.

EDIT: perhaps not, I own big planes and I own 46 of them. Last round, the costs were lower because I leased them.