Airline Mogul Forum
Airline Mogul => General Chat => Topic started by: okircali on April 06, 2008, 04:21:25 pm
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Hello, I'm new in AM and in the forum. Thank you for this great game. I would like to ask some questions:
First thing I would like to ask is, why fuel expenses have been changed in Feb game year.
2/2/1990 Daily Fuel Expense €0 €375
1/2/1990 Daily Fuel Expense €0 €375
24/1/1990 Daily Fuel Expense €0 €14,969
23/1/1990 Daily Fuel Expense €0 €14,969
That's a very big difference! I have the same plane and same route and same frequencies since the game start.
Does DOP stand for Daily Operation Profit? I had about €14,000 increase on this at this month. Is it because of this change in fuel expenses?
When I view the gates I own, I can't see my returning flights on "Departures" in the flight table of the arrival city. Do my flights return without passengers?
Also I would like to ask something else. 13 hours prior to game start, I made a mistake and instead of returning the gate I have rented before, I clicked OCP so I've rented another one. This affected my finance bad. Did I somehow have the chance to undo this action since the game haven't started at that time?
Thank you for your answers.
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Hello, I'm new in AM and in the forum. Thank you for this great game. I would like to ask some questions:
First thing I would like to ask is, why fuel expenses have been changed in Feb game year.
2/2/1990 Daily Fuel Expense €0 €375
1/2/1990 Daily Fuel Expense €0 €375
24/1/1990 Daily Fuel Expense €0 €14,969
23/1/1990 Daily Fuel Expense €0 €14,969
That's a very big difference! I have the same plane and same route and same frequencies since the game start.
Does DOP stand for Daily Operation Profit? I had about €14,000 increase on this at this month. Is it because of this change in fuel expenses?
When I view the gates I own, I can't see my returning flights on "Departures" in the flight table of the arrival city. Do my flights return without passengers?
Also I would like to ask something else. 13 hours prior to game start, I made a mistake and instead of returning the gate I have rented before, I clicked OCP so I've rented another one. This affected my finance bad. Did I somehow have the chance to undo this action since the game haven't started at that time?
Thank you for your answers.
1. No idea
2. Almost, DOP stands for Daily Operating Profit
3. If you are based in Airport A, your flights will be listed in Departures. If you fly to an airport that isn't your hub, your route will be listed under Arrival.
4. You can't really undo gate rentals.. You still lose the money :lol: Even if you return it a second later
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Hello, I'm new in AM and in the forum. Thank you for this great game. I would like to ask some questions:
First thing I would like to ask is, why fuel expenses have been changed in Feb game year.
2/2/1990 Daily Fuel Expense €0 €375
1/2/1990 Daily Fuel Expense €0 €375
24/1/1990 Daily Fuel Expense €0 €14,969
23/1/1990 Daily Fuel Expense €0 €14,969
That's a very big difference! I have the same plane and same route and same frequencies since the game start.
Does DOP stand for Daily Operation Profit? I had about €14,000 increase on this at this month. Is it because of this change in fuel expenses?
When I view the gates I own, I can't see my returning flights on "Departures" in the flight table of the arrival city. Do my flights return without passengers?
Also I would like to ask something else. 13 hours prior to game start, I made a mistake and instead of returning the gate I have rented before, I clicked OCP so I've rented another one. This affected my finance bad. Did I somehow have the chance to undo this action since the game haven't started at that time?
Thank you for your answers.
DOP = Daily Operating Profit
If you are listed on departure you are based there. Listed on arrivals = not based there. (Exception may be inter bases flights. Have not checked so far)
Your OCP failure: I don't think this will be changed. It was your fault and the best thing to handle it will be to learn from your mistakes :wink:
Maybe somebody else can take care of your fuel expenses question. I am not sure about it.
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i am not sure but i felt the same
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It appears to be a bug.. also dramatic changes in mine
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Don't get me wrong. I am not beggingor something. I accept that it is my fault and I learn from my mistakes. I just wondered if "undo" is available before the game begins.
So my flights don't return empty. They just don't appear in the flight list. Am i right?
Thanks for the answers.
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Don't get me wrong. I am not beggingor something. I accept that it is my fault and I learn from my mistakes. I just wondered if "undo" is available before the game begins.
So my flights don't return empty. They just don't appear in the flight list. Am i right?
Thanks for the answers.
You can do a reset, its basically starting your airline over again
Correct, your flights return alright, they just dont appear in the Departures if its not your hub.
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1-How do I reset? Does it have any other +/- effects than just losing everything you have and starting over?
2-Can someone explain me those in View Routes section?
Flight Leg Costs
Trip Cost €4,158.00
Hourly Cost €440.47
Aircraft-Mile Cost €172.62
Seat-mile Cost €1.11
Revenue-mile Cost €1.11
3-I have manually returned the second gate which I'm not using, but still "1" is written under Tagged for that gate. I hope it wouldn't return it automatically at the end of month. It is %60 utilised
4-I have tried to upload a *.png logo but it still writes that I have to upload a gif, jpeg or png. I haven't exceeded the file size.
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1-How do I reset? Does it have any other +/- effects than just losing everything you have and starting over?
2-Can someone explain me those in View Routes section?
Flight Leg Costs
Trip Cost €4,158.00
Hourly Cost €440.47
Aircraft-Mile Cost €172.62
Seat-mile Cost €1.11
Revenue-mile Cost €1.11
3-I have manually returned the second gate which I'm not using, but still "1" is written under Tagged for that gate. I hope it wouldn't return it automatically at the end of month. It is %60 utilised
4-I have tried to upload a *.png logo but it still writes that I have to upload a gif, jpeg or png. I haven't exceeded the file size.
1. Email :staff: No other effects.
2. No idea. New feature. Let Will explain.
3. The "1" will disappear at the end of the month
4. Why not jpeg :lol:
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@okircali: Re:4: Are you using IE or Firefox? The upload script has some issues when using IE.
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Yes, using IE 7. Actually I'd prefer using Firefox on Linux. Any incompatibilities with FF or Linux?
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AM supports FF :lol: There are some problems with IE
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The game is designed mainly to work on Firefox, so there shouldn't be any issues with that.
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Fuel prices now fluctuate monthly, and are mildly loosened from the yearly averages we've got in the database. they can swing +-5% (plus some variance for the present year and surrounding years as an anchor). Yearly changes were too unnoticable, and there's no reliable source out there that i know of to show the crude oil or jet fuel prices on a monthly or daily basis from 1900 on.
unfortunately a typo plagued the initial update, however i'm not gonna flip the prices back up unreasonably.
Pondering making the fuel prices update more frequently, however, not going to be implemented yet.
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Just piggybacking onto this thread.
The finance panel marks the fuel costs as "(daily)" and the wiki says the costs are chraged at the end of the month (along with the rent costs). When are fuel costs taken out?
(And... are costs applied on the 24th of the month or the 1st? (Unfortunately, the new game month starts at 5am for me, so I wasn't up to experience my first bill.)
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Just piggybacking onto this thread.
The finance panel marks the fuel costs as "(daily)" and the wiki says the costs are chraged at the end of the month (along with the rent costs). When are fuel costs taken out?
(And... are costs applied on the 24th of the month or the 1st? (Unfortunately, the new game month starts at 5am for me, so I wasn't up to experience my first bill.)
finance accurately displays whether a cost is daily or monthly, and it's due on the 1st as i recall.
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Sorry, I didn't get what you meant in your msg Air Elbonia. Did you mean it is a mistake in the game?
Another question, I have 0 hours left for my aircraft. Does it mean that it can't be maintenanced? Should I free 1 hour in its schedule?
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Sorry, I didn't get what you meant in your msg Air Elbonia. Did you mean it is a mistake in the game?
Another question, I have 0 hours left for my aircraft. Does it mean that it can't be maintenanced? Should I free 1 hour in its schedule?
about the hours thing i dont think it will matter how many hours r left since if its not maint. it wont crash or anything
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Sorry, I didn't get what you meant in your msg Air Elbonia. Did you mean it is a mistake in the game?
Another question, I have 0 hours left for my aircraft. Does it mean that it can't be maintenanced? Should I free 1 hour in its schedule?
at the moment 0 hrs left is 100% safe with no ill effects, we're planning on ill-effects at some point when we revise the maintenance system, i believe Stephen's pushing to do that one.
I meant, the finance page is correct. if it says Daily, it's daily, if it says monthly it's monthly. if the wiki says otherwise about fuel, the wiki needs updated.
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Fuel prices now fluctuate monthly, and are mildly loosened from the yearly averages we've got in the database. they can swing +-5% (plus some variance for the present year and surrounding years as an anchor). Yearly changes were too unnoticable, and there's no reliable source out there that i know of to show the crude oil or jet fuel prices on a monthly or daily basis from 1900 on.
unfortunately a typo plagued the initial update, however i'm not gonna flip the prices back up unreasonably.
Pondering making the fuel prices update more frequently, however, not going to be implemented yet.
actually, I meant this msg which I didn't get. Previously, I had asked about the big difference in daily fuel expense.
Is that Will who can answer my question around here? :)
2-Can someone explain me those in View Routes section?
Flight Leg Costs
Trip Cost €4,158.00
Hourly Cost €440.47
Aircraft-Mile Cost €172.62
Seat-mile Cost €1.11
Revenue-mile Cost €1.11
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another question:
I saved my tokens for games occuring later,
but when will new ones be generated?
There are still games listed which are full.
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+/- 5%? My fuel price this month are a third of what it was last month. But then I'm in 1981, so maybe the OPEC oil embargo ended. Yay :D
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+/- 5%? My fuel price this month are a third of what it was last month. But then I'm in 1981, so maybe the OPEC oil embargo ended. Yay :D
There was a bug, which has been corrected for future months (but has not forced a recalculation of existing months). abnormal fuel price suppression resulted in it because of a typo -_-. It should climb back up to a more "normal" price again as time moves on.
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+/- 5%? My fuel price this month are a third of what it was last month. But then I'm in 1981, so maybe the OPEC oil embargo ended. Yay :D
There was a bug, which has been corrected for future months (but has not forced a recalculation of existing months). abnormal fuel price suppression resulted in it because of a typo -_-. It should climb back up to a more "normal" price again as time moves on.
I see.