Airline Mogul Forum
Airline Mogul => General Chat => Topic started by: CityFlyer.London on March 19, 2008, 03:43:07 am
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I found that B733 has a lot of users, but why? Is it better than 732Adv.?
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I found that B733 has a lot of users, but why? Is it better than 732Adv.?
more passengers, and a longer range.
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Less fuel burn? It should have, CFM56's are a lot less thirsty than JT8D's in general. Also a later withdrawal date, so you won't have to worry about a replacement for ages.
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Also a later withdrawal date, so you won't have to worry about a replacement for ages.
Unless we do a 21+ year round, you don't have to worry about replacing old planes due to retirement. Just because the 10B is being withdrawn in 1984 doesn't mean they disappear. It just means you can't buy it anymore.
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Also a later withdrawal date, so you won't have to worry about a replacement for ages.
Unless we do a 21+ year round, you don't have to worry about replacing old planes due to retirement. Just because the 10B is being withdrawn in 1984 doesn't mean they disappear. It just means you can't buy it anymore.
Yes but you won't be able to expand your fleet anymore with new caravelles- you'll have to find something else.
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Yeah, but fleet commonality doesn't mean anything in AM.
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I found that B733 has a lot of users, but why? Is it better than 732Adv.?
Shrug... Personal preference? If you read my little dissertation in the other thread about the 752, the happy medium for seats (for me) is right around 120 seats most of the time.
I'm starting to expand from the 732ADV (You're looking at the volume leader for them) to the 732ADV HGW's but only because I'm working routes now that are 1700+ miles away. I'd rather have speed at this point so I can get 3 round trips out of the plane rather than 2.5 since that will allow me to run 2 1x and 2 0.5x routes making me more money than having the extra seats.
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As long as I have to fill routes that the 732Adv fits to I am not going to change. This round is too short to have any advantages from moving to a better aircraft. The HGW costs 21M more than the 732Adv and takes two days instead of one to be delivered. I can make more profit from the 732Adv's than from the HGW if I add up money to the end of this round.
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As long as I have to fill routes that the 732Adv fits to I am not going to change. This round is too short to have any advantages from moving to a better aircraft. The HGW costs 21M more than the 732Adv and takes two days instead of one to be delivered. I can make more profit from the 732Adv's than from the HGW if I add up money to the end of this round.
Why -- did I not take your advice????
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As long as I have to fill routes that the 732Adv fits to I am not going to change. This round is too short to have any advantages from moving to a better aircraft. The HGW costs 21M more than the 732Adv and takes two days instead of one to be delivered. I can make more profit from the 732Adv's than from the HGW if I add up money to the end of this round.
Why -- did I not take your advice????
:?:
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I operate with both aircraft. The B732 Adv. on the short euopean routes and to the canary islands. And then I operate with the B733 to the Middle East and north Africa. This because they are faster, have a greater range and can carry more passengers.
Plus if you should fly to Middle East from Europe I can give the advice to buy B733 instead of a larger mediumhaul aicraft like the B757, B767(non ER), A300 and A310. I have tried to operate to Middle East with both A310 s and B733, that I use now, and the B733 is alot better. It just don´t have a smaller price then the A310 it`s also being constructed one day faster.
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I dont understand why people like the 733. They are nearly twice as expensive than the 732/adv!
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But compare with mediumhaul aircraft instead and you will see why.
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But compare with mediumhaul aircraft instead and you will see why.
But come on, a medium haul isnt going to be 2500-2700nm, more like *checks google earth* Ok your right :P
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I would way rather pay 21 million less than 733 for a 732 Adv. If I need something bigger, I go right to the 757.
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I would way rather pay 21 million less than 733 for a 732 Adv. If I need something bigger, I go right to the 757.
+1 or even better a 767 as i dont like the 757
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Look at the top three players in the game then look at their aircraft selection, you'll notice a trend which is volume over size.
I buy my aircraft based on the speed, range and price. The few hundred 732-ADVs mostly service airports up to 1700-2100 miles. Around that range I start to transition in to 732-ADV-HGWs because they have a longer range but are also faster and can usually squeeze in an extra .5 frequency. They're good up to about 2700 miles and after that I get in to the 733's which are good up to 3275 miles. After that I have a small padded range where I'm going to squeeze in some TU-154M's because again, they are fast. After that I go to the 757 and 767.
Obviously this is not The Law. Running a large plane on short routes between large airports can be a good thing because there is passenger demand. It cracks me up though when I see someone put a 757/767 on a 500 mile route between 350k and 150k airports... You might as well save the money and just put a 2X 737 on the route as the operating costs and massively shorter turn time will yield you better results.
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Look at the top three players in the game then look at their aircraft selection, you'll notice a trend which is volume over size.
I buy my aircraft based on the speed, range and price. The few hundred 732-ADVs mostly service airports up to 1700-2100 miles. Around that range I start to transition in to 732-ADV-HGWs because they have a longer range but are also faster and can usually squeeze in an extra .5 frequency. They're good up to about 2700 miles and after that I get in to the 733's which are good up to 3275 miles. After that I have a small padded range where I'm going to squeeze in some TU-154M's because again, they are fast. After that I go to the 757 and 767.
Obviously this is not The Law. Running a large plane on short routes between large airports can be a good thing because there is passenger demand. It cracks me up though when I see someone put a 757/767 on a 500 mile route between 350k and 150k airports... You might as well save the money and just put a 2X 737 on the route as the operating costs and massively shorter turn time will yield you better results.
But many of these short 757/767 routes are just because people have like 4 h left on a plane.
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Of course, and I've said that before but deliberately removed it from my post because I didn't want to beat a dead horse. :)
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Of course, and I've said that before but deliberately removed it from my post because I didn't want to beat a dead horse. :)
Speaking of beating dead horses, I see you're the new leader. Congrats! 8)
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I buy my planes based on my business model. So far the plane of choice has been MD83 executive jets.
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Of course, and I've said that before but deliberately removed it from my post because I didn't want to beat a dead horse. :)
Speaking of beating dead horses, I see you're the new leader. Congrats! 8)
Danke! Though it doesn't really count since he seems to have surrendered/quit. Shrug. It's like I'm competing against a kid... Or a college student or something. :lol: