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Airline Mogul => General Chat => Topic started by: a1b23 on March 08, 2008, 02:51:10 am
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look at this this Montreal Boston
a Fokker F27-500 10 €50
a Fokker F27-500 10 €50
b BAe-146-100 1 €200
b BAe-146-100 1 €200
d Fokker F28 Fellowship 2000 1 €199
e BAe-146-100 1 €200
f Fokker F27-500 1 €198
g Boeing 737-200 Adv. HGW 0.5 €200
h Hamilton Westwind III 1.5 €260
i took out the names and replaced them with a(twice, same guy) to h
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someone's doing the same thing in SFO
12 or 14 routes SFO-LAX...
killing all kinds of routes, kids these days, I tell ya.
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look at this this Montreal Boston
a Fokker F27-500 10 €50
a Fokker F27-500 10 €50
b BAe-146-100 1 €200
b BAe-146-100 1 €200
d Fokker F28 Fellowship 2000 1 €199
e BAe-146-100 1 €200
f Fokker F27-500 1 €198
g Boeing 737-200 Adv. HGW 0.5 €200
h Hamilton Westwind III 1.5 €260
i took out the names and replaced them with a(twice, same guy) to h
Would you cry if you were United and AA has a flight leaving from Dallas to Chicago every hour on the hour?
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look at this this Montreal Boston
a Fokker F27-500 10 €50
a Fokker F27-500 10 €50
b BAe-146-100 1 €200
b BAe-146-100 1 €200
d Fokker F28 Fellowship 2000 1 €199
e BAe-146-100 1 €200
f Fokker F27-500 1 €198
g Boeing 737-200 Adv. HGW 0.5 €200
h Hamilton Westwind III 1.5 €260
i took out the names and replaced them with a(twice, same guy) to h
Would you cry if you were United and AA has a flight leaving from Dallas to Chicago every hour on the hour?
That's irrelevant. Frequencies like that on dense and hub to hub domestic routes may work in the real world, but not here at AM.
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Not mean, just stupid
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i just can say if i lower my fare by 1 cent, his route will collapse
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I would be really interested to see where *a certain player* who has popped up in CLT just today is getting all the money to have all the planes he has on order.
*edited by dktc: please don't accuse (or imply with accusation) your fellow player in public*
Sorry about that just starting on the forums.
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Theres a couple of those idiots at DFW as well. Think the one might have been booted or something...yesterday between like 6 aircraft he had almost 25+ frequencies running at €5 on a 300 or so mile flight meaning if the rest of us wanted ANY load what so ever we had to drop to €5...it was originally a €300 route :roll: Now hes gone and its back to more like €225. Then tonight someone else on a different route brought it down from €600 to €90 with a bunch of frequencies at €1 :x
Its simply stupidity...in this game that doesn't help anyone what so ever and generally does NOT drive competition away, theres no point in it at all :roll:
Now why does The Wizard of Oz "If I only had a brain" keep playing in my head as "If they only had a brain" :?
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Basically, the problem is we have AM players now who *want* to screw it up for others; that's their goal in playing. Griefing has come to online airline sims. :roll:
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Triple 7 you seem to not be watching your routes to much. Your talking about DFW_LBB yesterday where someone came in and launched 10x DFW-LBB at $50, in order to make a 90% LF you would have had to drop your fare to $90, so instead I launched 7x 737 DFW-LBB which caused the other airline to pull the 10x and we were able to get back to $225. Same on CLT-DFW today a certain airline launched 7x CLT DFW service at $80 on a MD-81 dropping everyones LF's to 0% in order to pull a 90% LF your fare would have to be brought down to $90. I countered with $1 fares in hopes that he would pull the 7x MD-81 service. So my $1 fares are to counter, he didn't launch the MD-81 service in response to me.
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Let us see this route then
http://stephenm.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4912
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Hot Drink what your not seeing is the fact that the guys with there prices still at $300 are at 5-10% LF there losing money. So your best action is to counter with $1 fares to get the 30x @ $30 off the route to return it to being profitable. The issue in CLT is a certain player is doing this on 27 routes.
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It is mean. Although it is legal and will always be legal. :twisted: I see those kind of routes on many routes in Europe. I just ignore them and fly to another airport.
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Basically, the problem is we have AM players now who *want* to screw it up for others; that's their goal in playing. Griefing has come to online airline sims. :roll:
And you can't ignore those ignorants as well. They make up a significant percentage of the AM population :x
(dktc is mad, ver mad, right now, at some cheaters.... :evil: ... so please pardon his emotion :roll: )
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It is mean. Although it is legal and will always be legal. :twisted: I see those kind of routes on many routes in Europe. I just ignore them and fly to another airport.
Oh how I wish I could ignore it but its hard when a "certain player" has loaded 7x on MD-81's on 40% of my routes out of CLT. I'm not gonna pack up and run I would rather just run him out with multiple freq. $1 fares on my 737's.
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You got 60% more :lol:
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i guess you guys should better give up your base in DFW :D
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Nah me and Eco will fight it out with you at DFW :lol: remember in FT we go Further Together :lol:
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Nah me and Eco will fight it out with you at DFW :lol: remember in FT we go Further Together :lol:
having 2 airlines of the same alliance basing in the same airport is already a poor attempt..........
basing it in one of my bases is even worse....... 8)
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Riiiiight. Pat pat tussle tussle. Run along scamp.
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I don't see how lowering the price to £1 helps anyone. Not only to you ruin the idiots route, but you also ruin everyone else on the route who's been playing fairly. (Like Myself! :evil: )
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Please :roll: . Go tell RyanAir that :lol:
The people doing 1 euro routes are actually playing fairly
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I don't see how lowering the price to £1 helps anyone. Not only to you ruin the idiots route, but you also ruin everyone else on the route who's been playing fairly. (Like Myself! :evil: )
Again i'm not gonna let a "certain airline" put MD-81/82 on my routes with 5-7 frequencies and just sit there, i'm gonna fight back. So deal with it. I would rather lose money on a route than let him destroy.
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I don't see how lowering the price to £1 helps anyone. Not only to you ruin the idiots route, but you also ruin everyone else on the route who's been playing fairly. (Like Myself! :evil: )
Again i'm not gonna let a "certain airline" put MD-81/82 on my routes with 5-7 frequencies and just sit there, i'm gonna fight back. So deal with it. I would rather lose money on a route than let him destroy.
Which is all you are going to do.....
With the cost mechanics where they are, you have exactly ZERO ability to run a determined opponent off a route, just like the opponent has ZERO ability to run you off the route if you CHOOSE to not leave.
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what's so bad? In rl, Qantas has flights SYD-MEL every half hour :)
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what's so bad? In rl, Qantas has flights SYD-MEL every half hour :)
Yah, but they don't use B767s on this route :roll:
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And of course, AM's pricing/demand structure bear little resemblance to real life. Multi-frequencies kill profits quick.