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Title: Alliance Rankings - Average Member Value 1983-07
Post by: MrOrange on March 04, 2008, 10:43:53 am
Here are the average member rankings for alliances, dated on July 1983 and based on the alliance rankings as viewable in-game at Rankings > Alliance.
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k40/Rarehans/rankings.jpg) Note that alliances with only one member have been taken out of this list. Misspellings in alliance names are due to misspellings in the AM Database. The above ranking is based on the alliance rankings as they were on the 14th Jul 1983, at around 10:30 GMT.
Title: Alliance Rankings - Average Member Value 1983-07
Post by: Jps on March 04, 2008, 10:46:28 am
*claps* Thanks Mr. O
Title: Alliance Rankings - Average Member Value 1983-07
Post by: epxair on March 04, 2008, 12:14:26 pm
but the leading ones got official brokers there....
Title: Alliance Rankings - Average Member Value 1983-07
Post by: dktc on March 04, 2008, 12:55:24 pm
Quote from: "epxair"
but the leading ones got official brokers there....
Yup, which is not technically fair, if I say so myself.
Title: Alliance Rankings - Average Member Value 1983-07
Post by: Scandalian Airlines on March 04, 2008, 01:06:50 pm
Yeah, make one without the brokers :) And an alliance is not about being first or having the most members, it's about being together for the good of many, no matter if you are a big shot out of FRA, LHR or ATL or a small island hopper in the Caribbean. If a list like this mattered to alliances they would deny entry for all small airlines...
Title: Alliance Rankings - Average Member Value 1983-07
Post by: MrOrange on March 04, 2008, 02:08:43 pm
1) Create a list without brokers yourself, I don't have the time.
2) This list is just for comparison on a different scale than total value, not in any way a list to see which alliance is the best.
Title: Alliance Rankings - Average Member Value 1983-07
Post by: airplane2011@msn.com on March 04, 2008, 02:14:56 pm
MrOrange doesn't have time to not be #1!
Title: Alliance Rankings - Average Member Value 1983-07
Post by: MrOrange on March 04, 2008, 02:16:45 pm
Apart from you meaning doesn't, I don't care about the entire list. If my alliance came last, I wouldn't care. If my alliance came second, I wouldn't care. Right now, I don't care. I can keep saying this, so I'll do it once more: I don't care. Go create a list without brokers, I didn't feel like it so I didn't.
Title: Alliance Rankings - Average Member Value 1983-07
Post by: Scandalian Airlines on March 04, 2008, 02:58:51 pm
Quote from: "MrOrange"
1) Create a list without brokers yourself, I don't have the time.
2) This list is just for comparison on a different scale than total value, not in any way a list to see which alliance is the best.
Neither do I :D I understand what the intent was, and it would be nice if there were more statistical possibilities on both individual and alliance rankings. I work a lot with statistics so I suppose I am damaged by that :lol: And you sound like a grumpy old man today MrOrange, and you usually are not ;)
Title: Alliance Rankings - Average Member Value 1983-07
Post by: MrOrange on March 04, 2008, 03:07:03 pm
I'm not even old :cry:
Title: Alliance Rankings - Average Member Value 1983-07
Post by: airplane2011@msn.com on March 04, 2008, 09:50:50 pm
Quote from: "MrOrange"
Apart from you meaning doesn't, I don't care about the entire list. If my alliance came last, I wouldn't care. If my alliance came second, I wouldn't care. Right now, I don't care. I can keep saying this, so I'll do it once more: I don't care. Go create a list without brokers, I didn't feel like it so I didn't.
It was just sort of a joke. Sorry to fire you up.
Title: Alliance Rankings - Average Member Value 1983-07
Post by: MrOrange on March 04, 2008, 10:20:00 pm
Didn't get that, sorry :)
Title: Alliance Rankings - Average Member Value 1983-07
Post by: scottj63 on March 05, 2008, 01:08:09 pm
to join an alliance you have to get invited I take it? I am doing ok in the game I think but I would like to join an alliance the southeast asian area.
scottj63
Title: Alliance Rankings - Average Member Value 1983-07
Post by: rocketboy on March 05, 2008, 03:08:33 pm
It depends on the alliance. Some alliances' have open membership so anyone can just sign up in-game. For other alliances' you have to be voted in. Usually this means posting in their alliance thread or posting on their own private forum with information about your airline. Once given the go ahead you would apply in-game and the members would vote you in. As far as I know FT alliance is the only one that is by invitation only. Read the threads in the alliance forum, most welcome applications.
Title: Alliance Rankings - Average Member Value 1983-07
Post by: jameswyhk on March 05, 2008, 03:23:22 pm
Cheers! Our alliance has the highest members' average value!
Title: Alliance Rankings - Average Member Value 1983-07
Post by: dbesse757 on March 05, 2008, 03:53:25 pm
If you take away the official brokers, Elite Skies would have been number one!
Title: Alliance Rankings - Average Member Value 1983-07
Post by: MrOrange on March 05, 2008, 03:56:33 pm
That would still not be a fair statistic, as brokers do have an airline value that counts towards their alliance total :) But you're right on the calculating bit.
Title: Alliance Rankings - Average Member Value 1983-07
Post by: dbesse757 on March 05, 2008, 04:49:25 pm
Quote from: "rocketboy"
It depends on the alliance. Some alliances' have open membership so anyone can just sign up in-game. For other alliances' you have to be voted in. Usually this means posting in their alliance thread or posting on their own private forum with information about your airline. Once given the go ahead you would apply in-game and the members would vote you in. As far as I know FT alliance is the only one that is by invitation only. Read the threads in the alliance forum, most welcome applications.
I'm curious about something...how does FT invite people into their alliance? Does a member send a message in-game to invite them?
Title: Alliance Rankings - Average Member Value 1983-07
Post by: dktc on March 05, 2008, 04:50:28 pm
Quote from: "dbesse757"
I'm curious about something...how does FT invite people into their alliance? Does a member send a message in-game to invite them?
They "know" each other from another forum.
And no, not all alliance go by invitation. Most go by application in their own forum, but there are open alliance which everyone could join (but then they would not be organized~)
Title: Alliance Rankings - Average Member Value 1983-07
Post by: dbesse757 on March 05, 2008, 04:54:17 pm
I see. Just making sure there is not in-game messaging going on about alliances. :D
Title: Alliance Rankings - Average Member Value 1983-07
Post by: Jps on March 06, 2008, 03:01:22 am
Quote from: "dktc"
Quote from: "dbesse757"
I'm curious about something...how does FT invite people into their alliance? Does a member send a message in-game to invite them?
They "know" each other from another forum.
And no, not all alliance go by invitation. Most go by application in their own forum, but there are open alliance which everyone could join (but then they would not be organized~)
FT = FlyerTalk.
Title: Alliance Rankings - Average Member Value 1983-07
Post by: Japanair on March 06, 2008, 03:20:01 am
wow... #11 with 11 members... not so impressing. :( Oh well...
Title: Alliance Rankings - Average Member Value 1983-07
Post by: Scandalian Airlines on March 06, 2008, 06:13:30 am
Quote from: "Japanair"
wow... #11 with 11 members... not so impressing. :( Oh well...
That depends, if all members operate out of hubs like FRA, LHR, ATL and so on then it's not impressive, but it it is 11 members doing bush flying in South America, Australia etc then it's VERY impressive...