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Airline Mogul => General Chat => Topic started by: moondog on March 03, 2008, 12:49:00 pm
Title: I think the starter plane was too good
Post by: moondog on March 03, 2008, 12:49:00 pm
While I enjoyed the benefits of starting out with a bigger airplane (it was much harder getting things going with that Beech last round), IMO the game has been altered in an un-natural manner by the bigger starter plane.
In particular, whenever accounts are closed, brokers end up with them, which they in turn sell/lease, sometimes on the open market, and sometimes through private transactions.
Airlines that have been lucky enough to pick them up on the cheap have derived considerable benefit at the expense of the rest.
I expect that the advantage associated with this will dissipate as the round progresses, but it has been marked thus far.
My thoughts:
-Beech was too small; something with 30-50 seats would be better -revise the scrapping system (IMO scrapped planes should simply disappear from the game; if that sounds too drastic, maybe put some measures in place to boost the costs that the brokers have to incur)
Title: Re: I think the starter plane was too good
Post by: dktc on March 03, 2008, 01:27:58 pm
Quote from: "moondog"
My thoughts:
-Beech was too small; something with 30-50 seats would be better -revise the scrapping system (IMO scrapped planes should simply disappear from the game; if that sounds too drastic, maybe put some measures in place to boost the costs that the brokers have to incur)
1. It is a known fact the plane is too good. 2. Beech is the right size, or maybe still a bit too large. 30~50 seaters are huge. 3. The broker system was implemented based on the requests and suggestions of players. You all just have to live with the consequences of democracy :twisted: (The system is under revsion)
Title: I think the starter plane was too good
Post by: Blue Sky Mine on March 03, 2008, 01:53:47 pm
I think the starter plane was excellent. Didn't snatch a scrapper, but still my airline is running pretty well :D
Title: I think the starter plane was too good
Post by: pseudoswede on March 03, 2008, 02:47:53 pm
For a 3-year round, the starter plane was fine. Next time, don't give as much starting cash (so that you could've purchased another plane immediately).
The longer the round, the worse the starter plane, and vice-versa.
Title: I think the starter plane was too good
Post by: StephenM on March 03, 2008, 02:51:30 pm
I gave an additional bit of cash for a kick-start. Like was stated, this was due to the short round. We'll try the wright flyer in the next round. :twisted:
Title: I think the starter plane was too good
Post by: iranair777 on March 03, 2008, 03:00:21 pm
Quote from: "StephenM"
I gave an additional bit of cash for a kick-start. Like was stated, this was due to the short round. We'll try the wright flyer in the next round. :twisted:
:lol: range: 10metres :lol:
Title: I think the starter plane was too good
Post by: StephenM on March 03, 2008, 03:15:32 pm
And how about, you donate what you want for starting cash. At the rate of €1 to €1. That'd slow the game down a couple of years. :D
Title: I think the starter plane was too good
Post by: RMAirlines on March 03, 2008, 03:50:00 pm
Well, he's kinda right. I'm already at 1,200,000 DOP and have two F28s on order.
Title: I think the starter plane was too good
Post by: dktc on March 03, 2008, 05:02:02 pm
Quote from: "RMAirlines"
Well, he's kinda right.
No one said he is wrong. What we are saying is that it is planned and intentional. We knew the BAe146-100 is too good before the round started.
Title: I think the starter plane was too good
Post by: myefre on March 03, 2008, 05:36:24 pm
Quote from: "pseudoswede"
For a 3-year round, the starter plane was fine. Next time, don't give as much starting cash (so that you could've purchased another plane immediately).
The longer the round, the worse the starter plane, and vice-versa.
$1 less than the cheapest plane :lol: That would have been fun to read the post on that.
Title: I think the starter plane was too good
Post by: DVA 4890 on March 03, 2008, 09:44:01 pm
how do i become a broker
Title: I think the starter plane was too good
Post by: iranair777 on March 03, 2008, 10:04:03 pm
Quote from: "DVA 4890"
how do i become a broker
by bugging all the admins put together. No chance that you will, ive tried and failed myself
Title: I think the starter plane was too good
Post by: dktc on March 03, 2008, 11:31:46 pm
Quote from: "DVA 4890"
how do i become a broker
Start with actually reading forum threads, before asking questions of which answers are obvious and available.
Title: I think the starter plane was too good
Post by: nwadeltaboy on March 04, 2008, 01:25:39 am
If crappier starter planes are what you are looking for, try the B732 adv biz jet ;)
Title: I think the starter plane was too good
Post by: Seattle on March 04, 2008, 01:53:38 am
Then people would be flying LAX - NRT from the start! :lol:
Title: I think the starter plane was too good
Post by: nwadeltaboy on March 04, 2008, 02:02:45 am
They would be flying 8 passengers. 24 airlines would have to go on the route before it reaches the capacity of one normal 732 adv :P
Title: I think the starter plane was too good
Post by: Steeler83 on March 04, 2008, 02:17:19 am
If I were to select a good starter plane, I would either pick the Fokker F27-500, or the Shorts 360-100. The last time the 1980s round was played (almost exactly a year ago -- I first came to AM in mid-1986), the start-up plane was a Fokker F27-500. Don't ask how I remember that. I have more memory than today's biggest jump drive just about. :lol: :lol: