Airline Mogul Forum
Airline Mogul => Game News => Topic started by: dktc on February 29, 2008, 01:46:30 am
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We have decided to bump up the penalty for violations of the game rules. The following list is the new penalty policy for first timers, with the old one listed as comparison. Please be aware that we are using progress discipline, and for second offence, you will get a much more severe penalty (timed suspension + account reset in certain cases).
Multi-accts
old - 10% airline value of the reactivated account
new - 20% airline value of all accounts combined (except those with negative value~)
Feeder
old -120% gain + 20% airline value of the reactivated account
new - 200% gain + 30% airline value of all accounts combined (except those with negative value~)
n.5's abuse
old - 120% gain + 10% airline value
new - 200% gain + 20% airline value
The penalties are non-negotiable. As a general rule, don't do anything suspicious. Report to us if you are sharing a computer / internet connection with another player before we get to you. We try to be reasonable and fair, but we would not compensate on any lost productivity during the period you got banned from the game because of suspicious activities, regardless whether you are convicted or not.
Please also see the reminder thread (http://stephenm.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4837) to renew your knowledge of our game rules and policies.
Thanks for your cooperation.
On behalf of Membership Department from Bryce Rea and Daniel Chan
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What's a feeder per se? I've seen that term used a lot and can only deduce that it would be a second account that's laundering planes back and forth to siphon off money or selling planes from the dummy account at 50%.
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What's a feeder per se? I've seen that term used a lot and can only deduce that it would be a second account that's laundering planes back and forth to siphon off money or selling planes from the dummy account at 50%.
Correct. And we also consider dummy account used to gate hog as feeder.
The board definition is "having more than one account and use them to gain unfair advantage for one or more of the accounts controlled".
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Would this be feeding:
I'm filthy stinking rich and an alliance member is struggling making a living on the south pole and I want to give him a plane for almost free, so I sell it to him at 50%, he sells it bcak at 133% and I resell it to him again at 50%.
It's not really money laundering, no financial gain on my side, and we are not related in any other way than being in the same alliance.
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Would this be feeding:
I'm filthy stinking rich and an alliance member is struggling making a living on the south pole and I want to give him a plane for almost free, so I sell it to him at 50%, he sells it bcak at 133% and I resell it to him again at 50%.
It's not really money laundering, no financial gain on my side, and we are not related in any other way than being in the same alliance.
That would be considered a suspected feeding. There is financial gain on the other side. But then again, if you are not connected, we probably won't spot it, unless someone report that the start-up is somehow getting too much money, then you may be in trouble.
All we want is fair play, and that is not fair... so we will try to convict you :wink:
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Would this be feeding:
I'm filthy stinking rich and an alliance member is struggling making a living on the south pole and I want to give him a plane for almost free, so I sell it to him at 50%, he sells it bcak at 133% and I resell it to him again at 50%.
It's not really money laundering, no financial gain on my side, and we are not related in any other way than being in the same alliance.
That would be considered a suspected feeding. There is financial gain on the other side. But then again, if you are not connected, we probably won't spot it, unless someone report that the start-up is somehow getting too much money, then you may be in trouble.
All we want is fair play, and that is not fair... so we will try to convict you :wink:
Happy hunting :twisted:
Just checking (insert emoticon with halo here)
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what do you mean by 200% gain?
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what do you mean by 200% gain?
For n.5's we take the difference on DOP before and after we close all your related routes, then times the longest period the routes have been there (yes, we keep track as well), then times 2.
For feeders, we take the 133% price of plane minus the actual price of plane (usually 50%) the recipient paid, and then add up the DOP of those planes like above, then add the laundered cash, then times 2.
I will tell you this: the base value we come out as "gain" will never be less than the direct gain you got, but may not account for the time-value-money (ie. compounding ROI) aspect. We would usually maximize the figure.
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Hi dktc! Im a fd of a certain airline. He has a multi-ac . The certain airline is his second ac , another certain airline is his first ac.
edit by killian320 - please do not accuse players in public, please email daniel.chan[at]airlinemogul[dot]com directly
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wat is .5 abuse, you cant use to many .5 frequencies?
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you can only have 2 X.5 on one route
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Would this be feeding:
I'm filthy stinking rich and an alliance member is struggling making a living on the south pole and I want to give him a plane for almost free, so I sell it to him at 50%, he sells it bcak at 133% and I resell it to him again at 50%.
It's not really money laundering, no financial gain on my side, and we are not related in any other way than being in the same alliance.
That would be considered a suspected feeding. There is financial gain on the other side. But then again, if you are not connected, we probably won't spot it, unless someone report that the start-up is somehow getting too much money, then you may be in trouble.
All we want is fair play, and that is not fair... so we will try to convict you :wink:
..... :D :twisted:
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why are you putting a gain on .5 abuse?
it will just make people do it more.
if you want it to stop then put a negetive percentage on it
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why are you putting a gain on .5 abuse?
it will just make people do it more.
if you want it to stop then put a negetive percentage on it
The fine is a total of 120% of the gain by using the 0.5 route and 10% of airline value. It's not a gain, it's a fine.
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Lol... I just read multi-addicts :P
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why are you putting a gain on .5 abuse?
it will just make people do it more.
if you want it to stop then put a negetive percentage on it
Lol... I just read multi-addicts :P
Although it is common in online games that the admins reflect the quality of their players, this is not the case in AM. :P
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I second that.
(For those who wanted to post "OMG, that's like 10 million euros" or "I only feed my dog:" He means the AM admins aren't like the users of AM, including and specifically meaning you, but they are way cooler)
:wink:
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Normally admins are cool. But not membership officers -- bleagh! :twisted: ;)
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I like rules. They punish evil people. :) (yet some people never get caught :twisted: ) :P
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so, is it OK to put 3 planes on a route? Just checkin.
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so, is it OK to put 3 planes on a route? Just checkin.
As long as you do no more than 2 .5-Frequencies
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I would like to know if having more than 2 0.5 freqs on an AIRCRAFT is ok?!?
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I would like to know if having more than 2 0.5 freqs on an AIRCRAFT is ok?!?
It only applies to city pairs. :wink:
http://stephenm.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4837
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But the game doesn't allow more than 2 0.5-frequency routes on one aircraft, although as someone pointed out it does allow more under certain conditions :wink:
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But evidently 4 frequencies on one plane is okay :D
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But evidently 4 frequencies on one plane is okay :D
Any reason it shouldn't be?