Airline Mogul Forum
Airline Mogul => General Chat => Topic started by: Expairience on February 27, 2008, 12:08:52 am
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The game has been going for a mere 3 hours, and the top three airlines in the rankings already operate multiple BAe146s. Just out of curiosity, how is this possible? What did I do wrong?
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Official broker receive scraps.
they are...
- OrangeAir Luchtvaart Maatschappij
- Skylite Airlines
- D Express
- ★★★Hampo Brokerage★★★
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Who the heck scraps their planes at this moment? :?:
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Official broker receive scraps.
they are...
- OrangeAir Luchtvaart Maatschappij
- Skylite Airlines
- D Express
- ★★★Hampo Brokerage★★★
but I thought OrangeAir was being an airline this round because it was too short... :?
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Official broker receive scraps.
they are...
- OrangeAir Luchtvaart Maatschappij
- Skylite Airlines
- D Express
- ★★★Hampo Brokerage★★★
but I thought OrangeAir was being an airline this round because it was too short... :?
mentioned that before here:
http://www.stephenm.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5123
@dktc: I told you this will be brought up :wink:
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I believe that brokers should be on a different ranking, or at least we could have an option to hide them from the ranking, newbies would appreciate it for sure :)
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The brokers won't be a factor in the rankings later on as they focus on aircraft sales - and it's good that they develop profits as quickly as possible, because the faster they get cash, the faster they can start brokering aircraft for us.
Patience.
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Why have different rankings for the brokers and airlines?
They're playing the same game just in different ways!
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Who the heck scraps their planes at this moment? :?:
- People who scrap to buy more than 1 plane
- People who scrap to lease and buy planes
- Players who request for account resets
- Cheaters that are being suspended / deleted (just like every other day)
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If OrangeAir is not going to be brokering this round, then they shouldn't get the scraps. Otherwise, it's totally unfair and breaks the game dynamics.
If I was in Europe competing against him, I'd quit. No point playing against a player who gets such a massive advantage right at the start.
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The brokers won't be a factor in the rankings later on as they focus on aircraft sales - and it's good that they develop profits as quickly as possible, because the faster they get cash, the faster they can start brokering aircraft for us.
Patience.
Yeah, someone finally understands. :D :D :D
It might look good right now, but I'm €30,000,000 in debt because of those planes, and do you know how long it will take to make that up.
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The brokers won't be a factor in the rankings later on as they focus on aircraft sales - and it's good that they develop profits as quickly as possible, because the faster they get cash, the faster they can start brokering aircraft for us.
Patience.
Yeah, someone finally understands. :D :D :D
It might look good right now, but I'm €30,000,000 in debt because of those planes, and do you know how long it will take to make that up.
Yeah, I have no complaints about you because those profits eventually will flip back over into brokering.
But if an official broker has declared an intention not to broker this round, then they shouldn't be able to take advantage of the broker scraps.
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I see your point.
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Official broker receive scraps.
they are...
- OrangeAir Luchtvaart Maatschappij
- Skylite Airlines
- D Express
- ★★★Hampo Brokerage★★★
but I thought OrangeAir was being an airline this round because it was too short... :?
I'm not gonna post the same message twice, see the other topic.
And two BAe's on the used market for lease.
If OrangeAir is not going to be brokering this round, then they shouldn't get the scraps. Otherwise, it's totally unfair and breaks the game dynamics.
If I was in Europe competing against him, I'd quit. No point playing against a player who gets such a massive advantage right at the start.
A constant -10M or more bank balance doesn't help.
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If OrangeAir is not going to be brokering this round, then they shouldn't get the scraps. Otherwise, it's totally unfair and breaks the game dynamics.
If I was in Europe competing against him, I'd quit. No point playing against a player who gets such a massive advantage right at the start.
they have to pay for every scrap they get. And the planes they use on routes...they usually buy those ones themselves.
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Ah another broker bashing thread, i love it....
We have it harder than you guys, end of. Don't try and kid yourself telling everyone that we are gods gift and get stuff given to us willy nilly because we dont.
And all the scraps i've had so far have gone straight onto other players so...
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We can't even rent gates at homebase (or any airport where we already have gates) when we are in negative. I have run out of slots at my base. All aircrafts have to be thrown into brokerage business or let sit idle. This is an insurance policy to prevent us from "immoral" behaviors. Fair enough?
Now I have to dig myself out of the -50+ million hole... :cry:
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Ah another broker bashing thread, i love it....
We have it harder than you guys, end of. Don't try and kid yourself telling everyone that we are gods gift and get stuff given to us willy nilly because we dont.
And all the scraps i've had so far have gone straight onto other players so...
We're not bashing, per se. You, for example, have said you're not going to be playing (as an airline and broker, I assume) this round. Yet, you still receive scraps. Will you lease out the scraps you get? If so, great. If not, then there should be a way for you not to receive scraps.
For other brokers who are playing solely as an airline this round, then they should not receive scraps, as well. If that's the case, then Skylite and D Express will be in debt all three years! :lol:
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If that's the case, then Skylite and D Express will be in debt all three years! :lol:
Nah... we would just stop deleting cheaters and let you all suffer :P
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We try to provide you a service by getting scraps and getting them onto the market but some of you cannot see that obviously
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We try to provide you a service by getting scraps and getting them onto the market but some of you cannot see that obviously
But the question still remains... will you be logging in on a regular basis to lease out the scraps you receive?
Like I said above, if you're going to be playing the game as a player/broker, I have Z.E.R.O. issues with you receiving scraps and using them towards your own airline. However, as one broker has mentioned, he will be playing only as a player and not a broker. I believe scraps should not go to him. You are not playing as an airline (that's fine), but you aren't going to accept brokerage orders for this round (that's fine, too) and you seem to be doling out scraps for lease.
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I will be logging on to get rid of my scraps...
This is a very short round and i doubt ANY broker will fully open this round
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Like I said above, if you're going to be playing the game as a player/broker, I have Z.E.R.O. issues with you receiving scraps and using them towards your own airline. However, as one broker has mentioned, he will be playing only as a player and not a broker. I believe scraps should not go to him. You are not playing as an airline (that's fine), but you aren't going to accept brokerage orders for this round (that's fine, too) and you seem to be doling out scraps for lease.
Just like last round, I've put most of my scraps straight on the used market.
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But do you make money when you sell scraps at 50%, or lease them out at minimums? Leasing, yes, in the long run, selling I don't know as I have no idea what you have to pay for scraps. Still I think you get an unfair advantage if you are not doing a proper brokerage this round.
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I can't sell anything yet. No airline has the money to buy airplanes off me. Leasing them out means I have to pay maintenance costs on them, I lose money on them and I lose even more money on them. Including the new bunch of scraps I'm about to lease out, I'm at -30M and 10 of my BAe's are leased out, 3 are in service.
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-55 mil here, 5 leased out, 3 in service, 6 to be leased out (I have lease inquiries coming in, but yet to be sorted~)
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If that's the case, then Skylite and D Express will be in debt all three years! :lol:
Nah... we would just stop deleting cheaters and let you all suffer :P
in dktc's eyes, everybody's a cheater. :lol: You gotta love that (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/forum/admin.gif)
Anyway, the brokers do have it hard. Tell us again Hampo how many scrapped B99's last round Stephen had to point his magic wand at and go POOF?
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in dktc's eyes, everybody's a cheater. :lol: You gotta love that (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/forum/admin.gif)
It has nothing to do with my admin power. It is my pessimistic and sarcarstic nature. :lol:
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The brokers won't be a factor in the rankings later on as they focus on aircraft sales - and it's good that they develop profits as quickly as possible, because the faster they get cash, the faster they can start brokering aircraft for us.
Patience.
Yeah, someone finally understands. :D :D :D
It might look good right now, but I'm €30,000,000 in debt because of those planes, and do you know how long it will take to make that up.
Excellent. I was slightly confused by what I read in this thread, as I was told by some brokers that they were sitting out this round and were working to build up an airline without any brokering! I am glad they'll be back in the aircraft broker business soon.