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Airline Mogul => General Chat => Topic started by: zkvac on February 26, 2008, 06:06:11 am
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Which aircraft in the 60-80 seat market will you choose? I'm leaning towards the NAMC YS-11A-200.
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The NAMC
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Neither. I've got something else up my sleeve that I feel better balances the speed, fuel, turn times as well as cost and pax capacity for what my intended uses are going to be.
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Grr I thought I put an option for 'none of the above'.
Care to share Mr. Underwair? :lol:
I've gone through every aircraft in the 40-60 seat class and those were a couple I singled out.
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Well, I only played last round and I started late, so I had the benefit of seeing what everyone else was buying and what they already had which was a lot of Fokkers. So I went with 737's in order to have the larger planes which helped me better dictate the fare on the route. Since I don't have that benefit this time around, I'm trying to predict what the players are going to do and I'm planning to save a while longer and jump straight to 80-100 seaters after I get my start up aircraft.
IF I go with 40-60 seaters though, I'm planning to go with HS-748 Srs 2As. Compared to the NAMC it has two more seats, is 4 knots slower, has a slightly shorter range but is equal in fuel burn, turn time and crew. The 4 knots is barely enough to result in being able to run an extra 1 or .5 route and range is over kill for me since I'm a regional carrier per se. So for 100k less I get basically the same craft with two extra seats.
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Seems smart. Although I have heard it's better to progress slowly (in terms of aircraft), eg lots of airlines got way behind last round while saving for 737's- buy more smaller planes, then later on it will take a lot less time to save up.
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Correct, but I'm not going to save up for one of those as my first plane because as you said; that's too long to wait.
I haven't played a start of a round yet so this will be a learning curve, but I'm assuming a LOT of players are going to rush out to buy the first planes they can afford - the sub 1.5M 10-12 seaters. So I'm planning to hold out a few hours (days) longer, check my competitors "on order" list and then order something with about ten seats more.
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Yeah, it seems strange ordering something smaller than the start aircraft. For all routes, I won't go below 30 seats as a rule.
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I had a large Convair 580 fleet in the previous round! they were great!
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Convair 580! Great Speed and Great Range which allows many flights! Last round the medium profit of my C580 fleet was around 300.000€!
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Convair 580 is brilliant, I'm getting a average of 420k
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Whats the difference between the 3 and which is the best?!
Convair 580
FH227
NAMC
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Just as I predicted... The first ordered plane I've noticed so far is a 15 seat AN-14M. I'm going to come back from dinner and research my competition's moves before I make my own.
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Whats the difference between the 3 and which is the best?!
Convair 580
FH227
NAMC
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That's what I'm asking opinions of.
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F27-600; cost/asm is the second lowest in the game this round. While the range is a bit on the short side (655), it is good enough to support ~20 planes from 2 bases, which should yield enough DOP to graduate from the 40-60 seat category.
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F27-600; cost/asm is the second lowest in the game this round. While the range is a bit on the short side (655), it is good enough to support ~20 planes from 2 bases, which should yield enough DOP to graduate from the 40-60 seat category.
I used these as they were the perfect balance for my regional airline. Just enough cap and range for most of my destinations.
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I think for pax,the CV-600 series is really good as well as the CV-580.
Both have quick turn times and good on fuel.
The NAMC YS-11 was wayyyy under powered,hence why they werent widely used.
Convairs had nice roomy cabins,only draw back with the CV-600 was she was extremely loud.
I rode on both the CV-580 & 600 many years ago,and enjoyed the flights on them.