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Airline Mogul => General Chat => Topic started by: eielef on February 20, 2008, 04:34:42 pm
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Why Again?
Wasn't it enough just 2 months ago?
I'm bored of starting again and again without no reason. I hope someone is with me on saying to the "game-masters" no to the reset.
Let's play till 1979 or something similar.
Many friends of mine left the game since it re-started last 27th December 2007.
If it was reseted, make it for the last time.
Give every airport the double of gates, so it will be easier for everyone. For example, instead of DUS starting with 150, it starts with 300.
But: DO NO RESET THE GAME.
Signed: eielef, from Eielef Air (9Q)
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We'll eventually have 10-year rounds again. Be patient.
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Why Again?
Wasn't it enough just 2 months ago?
I'm bored of starting again and again without no reason.
As said before, we still need the resets to add features to the game and make bug-fixes we can't make during the round. Remember that AM is still in a beta stage. On another note, doubling gates will only lead to more issues, causing even more need for resets.
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Why is it need to restart?. It caused me a hard work and many hours to have an airline valued 7.000.Mio €. I mean: i loved it, but i won't start again knowing it will be restarted allways.
It's really mean. Why don't you create a parallel game. People may still play on this one, and the new features are available for those who register after this week.
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I want to restart in Seattle. No gates. To much competition :cry:
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Why is it need to restart?. It caused me a hard work and many hours to have an airline valued 7.000.Mio €. I mean: i loved it, but i won't start again knowing it will be restarted allways.
Yes, 5 years is too short to fully enjoy this game. 10 years is just about right (maybe a tad too long).
If you're also suggesting that this game should never reset. That won't happen either. It has been explained many times on these forums.
It's really mean. Why don't you create a parallel game. People may still play on this one, and the new features are available for those who register after this week.
It's not currently possible to have two separate games running in parallel. I won't say impossible, but it's probably something the admins don't want to hassle with.
Look around the forums for "multiworlds". It was supposed to be completed around this time (thus the 5-year round), but it looks like it won't be.
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Look around the forums for "multiworlds". It was supposed to be completed around this time (thus the 5-year round), but it looks like it won't be.
We still don't know. Right now, we have one world in beta running, but it is full of bugs... and we still haven't got the second world set up yet~. The devs are still hoping to get it out, but probably not going to be ready, which is why we start the "expectation management".
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If you dont want a reset, then you dont want the game to be improved or developed any further. Simple as that.
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and if you dont like the way the game is no1 is forcing you to play :roll:
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Though I'm certainly not hyped for a reset just yet (I think 10 years is just right), just due to the fact that my airline is still growing at a decent rate. I do like to see the game get improvments here and there to make it less buggy.
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Though I'm certainly not hyped for a reset just yet (I think 10 years is just right), just due to the fact that my airline is still growing at a decent rate. I do like to see the game get improvments here and there to make it less buggy.
same here. Just saw my DOP triple :P (new hub)
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It only takes about 5 years to build a global airline. After 5 years it just turns into a ***t fest. You have the major airlines covering everything and upgrading with larger aircraft, and you get the little airlines catching up. What happens is a wide spread devalueing of most routes, more comptetition and mudslinging. Places like Europe and north america become a cloaca because expansion is limited.
5 years is a good limit for now. Im happy to see 5 year terms until multiworlds is released. After then 10 years is okay. Though it can get a bit long.
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It only takes about 5 years to build a global airline. After 5 years it just turns into a ***t fest. You have the major airlines covering everything and upgrading with larger aircraft, and you get the little airlines catching up. What happens is a wide spread devalueing of most routes, more comptetition and mudslinging. Places like Europe and north america become a cloaca because expansion is limited.
5 years is a good limit for now. Im happy to see 5 year terms until multiworlds is released. After then 10 years is okay. Though it can get a bit long.
If thats the case, I have yet to notice it. I'm slowly turning into a global airline, but I try to fly things more realistically, so you'll see logical fleet and route choices from me (thus meaning you won't see a Tu-114 flying from Koltsovo/Vnukovo/Osnova to Gomel or Zielona Gora, but rather something more like a AN-24V or Tu-134 base version for VKO/Koltsovo and a L-410 from HRK to those two airports.) Devaluation of routes will happen reguardless how many years the round is. Perhaps when runway restrictions finally get figured out, you'll see lower chances of routes getting A300s and 737-200s on them.
As a side note, I entered my first round later on (it was almost 2005 in the game I think), I recall that the BK script was ran and I was able to expand nicely without any issue. Obviously, I didn't make it into the top 100, but I did make a decent ranking for an airline that started when I did.
Another clue to help, stay away from large airports (pax #>10,000,000), if you're a start up, you'll get eaten by the more experanced majors anyways. Just ask any "new" airline in r/l who went into DFW. Most of them didn't last very long.
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Ok. I'm resigned to see the game restart and all my profit and achievments lost.
I'm wondering if will be able to use now the Cargo Airports, and Cargo Airplane.
I'm wondering when will the new game start. The 80's or 90's might be great.
I'm wondering why i couldn't buy the Concorde. It would be SO great to have it.
PD: one of the busiest airports in the world, Paris Charles de Gaulle, wasn't open till 1975. Think of it next time.
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Macau was opened in 1997 :? oh well :lol:
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And Moskva Vnukovo was the largest Soviet airport at the time, and Misnk-1 had almost 1 mil pax/ year and was the main airport. KMCO was still being used as a Air Force Base with limited civil operatations (based from a former Missile Barn) until sometime in 1974 and Kansai International (KIX) airport wasn't opened until the early/mid 1990s. Of course, that is what happens when you use recent data, but I'm happy that we use more current data. If we used data from the days back then, I could only imagine it now, 2 days into the game and there would be at least 20 "This game is overcrowded, please reset" threads :shock:.
I'm wondering why i couldn't buy the Concorde. It would be SO great to have it.
Well, it didn't go into service yet until 1976 according to the "view all aircraft" page. Technically, the Tu-144 shouldn't have gone into service until 1975 since the one you can buy now is a prototype (which explains a lot).
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I want to restart in Seattle. No gates. To much competition :cry:
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Ok. I'm resigned to see the game restart and all my profit and achievments lost.
I'm wondering if will be able to use now the Cargo Airports, and Cargo Airplane.
I'm wondering when will the new game start. The 80's or 90's might be great.
I'm wondering why i couldn't buy the Concorde. It would be SO great to have it.
PD: one of the busiest airports in the world, Paris Charles de Gaulle, wasn't open till 1975. Think of it next time.
No cargo, that is for sure. You will see it... maybe in 2020... but probably not before :P
We don't know the year the new round would start. Haven't been decided yet.
You would possibly not be able to make any profit with a Concorde.
We knew all along that some airports weren't available in the past. There have been threads about it and we have given the explanation. Read through them next time. (I am just using your some exact wordings and attitude, so don't say I am rude.)
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I'm sorry DKTC. Didn't meen to be rude.
Hope the new version is better, but this one was great!.
You've all made a great job. Thanks for hours of fun!
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I want to restart in Seattle. No gates. To much competition :cry:
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I didnt even find out who operated all the flights untill I looked today. I perfectly happy with Tashkent and Samai International :P
(however next round, I will ruthlessly attack SEA, as its my precious little town. I've got a mighty temper when it comes to bighting competition's head off :P :twisted: .)
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I want to restart in Seattle. No gates. To much competition :cry:
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I didnt even find out who operated all the flights untill I looked today. I perfectly happy with Tashkent and Samai International :P
(however next round, I will ruthlessly attack SEA, as its my precious little town. I've got a mighty temper when it comes to bighting competition's head off :P :twisted: .)
OH SH*T, watever u do, dont invade KUL :D
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Just reset asap.
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I want to restart in Seattle. No gates. To much competition :cry:
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I didnt even find out who operated all the flights untill I looked today. I perfectly happy with Tashkent and Samai International :P
(however next round, I will ruthlessly attack SEA, as its my precious little town. I've got a mighty temper when it comes to bighting competition's head off :P :twisted: .)
OH SH*T, watever u do, dont invade KUL :D
Why would I go to Asia? (Next round)
Why would I do it this round? I have no good financial backing... just enough to buy 1-2 planes a day....
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I seem to be among the minority with my opinion: I'm happy about the reset. And about resets in general. I've played 2 rounds till now, and the most exciting time was the first 2 years or so. When I purchased my first planes after saving the money, when I was proud of my one leased 737. When I could still see my network on the route map, and not a big red dot. Even though I started the round late, I made it to 10th place in South America. But during the last 2 weeks I did nothing but log in once every three days, order two DC8s, and leave again. I never even put them on routes. The best part is the beginning, and I can't wait to do it again.
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The best part is the beginning, and I can't wait to do it again.
I totally agree with you. The first two years in a round, are the most fun.
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The best part is the beginning, and I can't wait to do it again.
I totally agree with you. The first two years in a round, are the most fun.
I tottaly agree with both of yah :wink:
i love just getting started and deciding what planes your gonna buy and building most of your connection :D
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I want to restart in Seattle. No gates. To much competition :cry:
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I didnt even find out who operated all the flights untill I looked today. I perfectly happy with Tashkent and Samai International :P
(however next round, I will ruthlessly attack SEA, as its my precious little town. I've got a mighty temper when it comes to bighting competition's head off :P :twisted: .)
Here ya go.....you can have the hub all to yourself....
http://www.airlinemogul.com/airlinemogul/view_airport.php?id=2991
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but thats BFI... not SEA :wink:
Unless your Alfa Air (Im never going to find out who he/she is) then you don't know what Im like :P .
(just to ask, where are you planing to base next round? you can pm me)
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resets are going to happen until the game has finally reached a maturity point, where all bugs have being sorted out and gameplay "competitive" enough so that it can run 10-15 years non-stop and provide real enjoyment for everyone, big or small.
I say its just one of those things u gotta live with, if u really do enjoy AM and wanna see it succeed. :)
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since i know the game will be restarted within few days, I ALREADY GIVE UP TO EXPAND MY AIRLINES.
so please............................ restart........
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I ALREADY GIVE UP TO EXPAND MY AIRLINES.
My airline doesn't exist anymore. I allready closed all my routes, sold my planes and returned my gates :lol:
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I try to fly things more realistically, so you'll see logical fleet and route choices from me (thus meaning you won't see a Tu-114 flying from Koltsovo/Vnukovo/Osnova to Gomel or Zielona Gora, but rather something more like a AN-24V or Tu-134 base version for VKO/Koltsovo and a L-410 from HRK to those two airports.) Devaluation of routes will happen reguardless how many years the round is. Perhaps when runway restrictions finally get figured out, you'll see lower chances of routes getting A300s and 737-200s on them.
I'm a noob; but that's my experience too. Many guys who are most improbably shifting to large planes like a 732 on some tiny routes that have squashed my more 'realistic' gauge flights in South America (which, since I'm into eastern aircraft, were AN-24s and Tu-124s / Tu134s too).
And, lately some people, one guy (*a certain airline*) in particular, are setting up tiny airports with 3x frequency Caravelle service, with a fare of like 5. Deliberately killing the route and not making any money himself. This is some sort of rivalry that the guy has with another airline or two; but its very childish behavior. I can't serve like 30 airports in Colombia from Bogotá because these idiots are putting 737s at fares of < 20 on routes that aren't even commercially served to this day because the airports are so small. As added damage, they eat up all the spare gates with unprofitable flights.
It's not competition, because the 'competitor' is not trying to make any money, he's trying to ruin it for other people. Aggravating.
Anyway, I would second the runway business being worked out, that might have a leveling-the-playing-field effect and make it more 'realistic'.
*edited by dktc: please don't accuse your fellow players in public*
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I have two questions concerning the upcoming reset:
1) Will the city data (population, rent amount, etc.) and already-existing aircraft data (range, speed, etc.) remain the same as this round?
2) Will there be a pause between rounds or does the game automatically begin in the new year just as it were simply starting a new month?
Thanks.
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I have two questions concerning the upcoming reset:
1) Will the city data (population, rent amount, etc.) and already-existing aircraft data (range, speed, etc.) remain the same as this round?
2) Will there be a pause between rounds or does the game automatically begin in the new year just as it were simply starting a new month?
Thanks.
1) The city pax should remain unchanged (except for updates), but the gate rents could change according to the updated pax (which were updated during this round).
The data for the aircrafts should remain unchange, except for some not so accurate data that will be updated. The prices could change, with the updates and/or a whole shift of prices for all aircrafts. The planes being offered will be different, depending on the time period of the coming round.
2) There will be a pause (of unknown, and yet to be decided length of time) between the round. There would probably be a period that the clock would not tick and just let players set up their airlines as well. And touch wood, we might even have to restart (seeing we have had that need for the past two round :cry: ) after the first reset, and reset again in a couple of days due to some bugs or security issues, but we are trying to not let that happen. We will see.
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I try to fly things more realistically, so you'll see logical fleet and route choices from me (thus meaning you won't see a Tu-114 flying from Koltsovo/Vnukovo/Osnova to Gomel or Zielona Gora, but rather something more like a AN-24V or Tu-134 base version for VKO/Koltsovo and a L-410 from HRK to those two airports.) Devaluation of routes will happen reguardless how many years the round is. Perhaps when runway restrictions finally get figured out, you'll see lower chances of routes getting A300s and 737-200s on them.
I'm a noob; but that's my experience too. Many guys who are most improbably shifting to large planes like a 732 on some tiny routes that have squashed my more 'realistic' gauge flights in South America (which, since I'm into eastern aircraft, were AN-24s and Tu-124s / Tu134s too).
And, lately some people, one guy (*a certain airline*) in particular, are setting up tiny airports with 3x frequency Caravelle service, with a fare of like 5. Deliberately killing the route and not making any money himself. This is some sort of rivalry that the guy has with another airline or two; but its very childish behavior. I can't serve like 30 airports in Colombia from Bogotá because these idiots are putting 737s at fares of < 20 on routes that aren't even commercially served to this day because the airports are so small. As added damage, they eat up all the spare gates with unprofitable flights.
It's not competition, because the 'competitor' is not trying to make any money, he's trying to ruin it for other people. Aggravating.
Anyway, I would second the runway business being worked out, that might have a leveling-the-playing-field effect and make it more 'realistic'.
*edited by dktc: please don't accuse your fellow players in public*
I TOTALLY Agree with u its so upsetting i mean i had to give up so many routes coz of this "certain airline" and behavour but then i decided to keep the routes even if i am losing on most of them and most of the short routes !!!! i mean whats the point?!!?!
i can understand y he is doing that instead of killing the small/medium airlines y doesnt he compete with some1 his size or probably he is just a kid
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in response to the reset, I have scrapped 95% of my planes and created a worldwide service which includes extremely low prices on the routes and a x8 service with a 707 on the LHR-FRA route which is only giving me 1k :P
What a airline route map should look like :P
http://airlinemogul.com/airlinemogul/view_airline.php?id=679
feel free to spam my airline :P
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probably he is just a kid
That's the biggest problem. To many kids are playing this game. An the only thing they want, is flying the biggest aircraft with a 100% LF. :evil:
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@IranAir I feel sorry for your alliance :lol:
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@IranAir I feel sorry for your alliance :lol:
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