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Airline Mogul => General Chat => Topic started by: a1b23 on February 15, 2008, 10:07:54 pm

Title: Europe is Saturated!!!
Post by: a1b23 on February 15, 2008, 10:07:54 pm
There are no gates anywhere, not even russia!!!
Title: Europe is Saturated!!!
Post by: dktc on February 15, 2008, 10:17:48 pm
Thanks for your input. We are resetting 24 Dec, 74, so not that far away.
Title: Europe is Saturated!!!
Post by: Chavaquiah on February 15, 2008, 10:18:07 pm
Look carefully. I'm releasing gates by the shedloads.

Besides, there are plenty of gates around. Some airports have 60+ available. More airports have gates than not.
Title: Re: Europe is Saturated!!!
Post by: Scandalian Airlines on February 15, 2008, 10:32:31 pm
Quote from: "a1b23"
There are no gates anywhere, not even russia!!!

There are 61 airports in Russia, 57 have gates...
Title: Europe is Saturated!!!
Post by: SATA on February 15, 2008, 11:10:22 pm
Quote from: "dktc"
Thanks for your input. We are resetting 24 Dec, 74, so not that far away.


oh i thought it was 24 dec 75 :o
Title: Europe is Saturated!!!
Post by: dktc on February 15, 2008, 11:15:49 pm
Quote from: "SATA"
oh i thought it was 24 dec 75 :o


my bad if i confused you before... but it is 74
Title: Europe is Saturated!!!
Post by: SATA on February 15, 2008, 11:19:07 pm
no problem and cheers :D
Title: Europe is Saturated!!!
Post by: LOT 737-300 on February 16, 2008, 12:54:50 am
It's not really that bad, and I wouldn't consider it saturated, of the 547 routes I fly, only 4 or 5 with competition seem to be below 100  Euro, and of those, only 2 or 3 seem to be unprofitable. If you based out of a larger city, I think you should think smaller insted of bigger for bases, those get saturated quickly. I'm based out of both the Soviet Union and Europe too, and its not bad at all. Possibly at TXL, LHR, GTW, Orly, CDG, FCO, MAD, SVO, DME, Barcolona its bad since those tend to be major hotspots for those who think it's a quick buck due to it's larger passenger number, but thats is far from the truth, that is where a lot of Saturation happens. Perhaps it's time to think about flying smaller planes to smaller airports, trust me, there is a whole ton of routes that usually get ignored and it can make you some good cash (not exactly a 50K profit, depending on where your based of course), even those airports with passenger numbers below 50K pax especially if you base out of a city with less than 5 million passengers since the competition that tends to fly to every airport in a 500nm radius tend not to be there.
Title: Europe is Saturated!!!
Post by: SATA on February 16, 2008, 01:03:09 am
Exactly! :D  but i am based out of big hubs and i dont think its saturated :roll:
Title: Re: Europe is Saturated!!!
Post by: a1b23 on February 16, 2008, 02:50:18 am
Quote from: "Scandalian Airlines"
Quote from: "a1b23"
There are no gates anywhere, not even russia!!!

There are 61 airports in Russia, 57 have gates...



I mean airports with over 5M
Title: Europe is Saturated!!!
Post by: Chavaquiah on February 16, 2008, 03:02:21 am
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Code  Airport Name           Passengers  Gates  Cost    Country
FCO   Rome Leonardo Da Vinci 32947304       1  250000   Italy
PMI   Palma de Mallorca      23227983       1  250000   Spain
MAN   Manchester             22442855       1  250000   United Kingdom
CPH   Copenhagen - Köbenhavn 21409526       1  250000   Denmark
DUB   Dublin                 21100000       5  250000   Ireland
TFS   Tenerife Sur            8639341      32  150000   Spain
ACE   Lanzarote               5625580      58  150000   Spain
LCA   Larnaca                 5224905      39  150000   Cyprus
LED   Pulkovo-2               5054504      54  150000   Russian Federation
Title: Re: Europe is Saturated!!!
Post by: LOT 737-300 on February 16, 2008, 03:04:33 am
Quote from: "a1b23"
Quote from: "Scandalian Airlines"
Quote from: "a1b23"
There are no gates anywhere, not even russia!!!

There are 61 airports in Russia, 57 have gates...



I mean airports with over 5M

You should consider some of those below 5 mil. You can still make a good profit off of those airports and 1/3 of the time you don't even have to deal with competition. Besides, not every airline can fly to AMS, not everyone can fly to LHR, not everyone can fly to VKO.