Oh and this is perfectly LEGAL according to AM's rules.
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Post by: Scandalian Airlines on February 12, 2008, 09:37:46 am
Yeah, that sucks, hate it. Have a guy that does the same at FRA, wasting loads of aircraft running 8-10 freq to small places. Thinking of retaliating :twisted:
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Post by: MvH on February 12, 2008, 10:12:31 am
Thank God I don't have such competitors on my routes. I do have 1 @^#$% putting an A300 on a very short route for €15. :evil:
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Post by: iranair777 on February 12, 2008, 10:18:55 am
:lol: I have probably the least serious competition in the whole of AM. Only 2 routes I have low fares on is two alliance routes :lol:
Title: Demonstration of how to ruin a route :)
Post by: MvH on February 12, 2008, 10:25:36 am
Quote from: "iranair777"
Only 2 routes I have low fares on is two alliance routes :lol:
This is something I don't understand. Why do you fly the same route as an alliance member? You're now competing with a "friendly" airline. That's just the reason I don't want to join an alliance.
Title: Demonstration of how to ruin a route :)
Post by: iranair777 on February 12, 2008, 10:26:30 am
Quote from: "MvH"
Quote from: "iranair777"
Only 2 routes I have low fares on is two alliance routes :lol:
This is something I don't understand. Why do you fly the same route as an alliance member? You're now competing with a "friendly" airline. That's just the reason I don't want to join an alliance.
no, I'm flying from a alliance base to another airport.
I am competeing? :shock:
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Post by: MvH on February 12, 2008, 10:28:23 am
Quote from: "iranair777"
no, I'm flying from a alliance base to another airport.
I see :wink:
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Post by: iranair777 on February 12, 2008, 10:28:51 am
Just checked, europacific probably is worth more than me, and everyone put together in this post put together, so I doubt he will mind
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Post by: Air2000 on February 12, 2008, 10:51:01 am
hahaha
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Post by: StephenM on February 12, 2008, 11:00:23 am
I'd like to see how much money you would make or loose when the cost changes are launched on Multiworlds...
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Post by: iranair777 on February 12, 2008, 11:03:59 am
Quote from: "StephenM"
I'd like to see how much money you would make or loose when the cost changes are launched on Multiworlds...
they are going to be changed :shock:
so basically less players per world, and higher costs? *sigh* that means the growth rate is going to be very slow (the rounds better be longer!)
Title: Demonstration of how to ruin a route :)
Post by: StephenM on February 12, 2008, 11:06:05 am
Quote from: "iranair777"
Quote from: "StephenM"
I'd like to see how much money you would make or loose when the cost changes are launched on Multiworlds...
they are going to be changed :shock:
so basically less players per world, and higher costs? *sigh* that means the growth rate is going to be very slow (the rounds better be longer!)
Well yes they are changed. I was working on it last night and just need to confirm that they are working properly with edit route tonight. The costs are derived from actual rates taken from IATA but translated into a generic formula.
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Post by: jameswyhk on February 12, 2008, 11:06:57 am
(http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa29/wahyanite001/vrd.png) This personne is doing that too.
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Post by: Jps on February 12, 2008, 11:25:12 am
Although I won't be making profits.. but it still ruins the route.
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Post by: StephenM on February 12, 2008, 11:26:57 am
Well sounds very much like Ryanair Vs Easyjet when Easyjet tried to enter the Irish market in 2006.
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Post by: nwadeltaboy on February 12, 2008, 01:25:57 pm
Quote from: "jameswyhk"
(http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa29/wahyanite001/vrd.png) This personne is doing that too.
Good ol' Doug :lol:
i seemed to have picked the best hubs, there all very big and the competition is minimal. :D
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Post by: LOT 737-300 on February 12, 2008, 01:26:53 pm
Legal they may be, but I always question the ethics (as well as the logic) behind doing such routes. I have a guy who did something similar to me overnight using a DC-7C between HRK-KBP.
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Post by: nwadeltaboy on February 12, 2008, 01:28:38 pm
in US politics at least, they don't care whether its ethical or not, they only care whether its legal (just look at Dubyah :lol: )
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Post by: SATA on February 12, 2008, 01:35:55 pm
Quote from: "nwaboy"
Quote from: "jameswyhk"
(http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa29/wahyanite001/vrd.png) This personne is doing that too.
Good ol' Doug :lol:
i seemed to have picked the best hubs, there all very big and the competition is minimal. :D
Yes Good ol Doug! :lol:
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Post by: jameswyhk on February 12, 2008, 01:57:54 pm
I am the one who made this! (http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa29/wahyanite001/vrd.png)
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Post by: SATA on February 12, 2008, 03:00:10 pm
I noticed its cool 8)
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Post by: nwadeltaboy on February 14, 2008, 03:32:42 am
Quote from: "jameswyhk"
I am the one who made this! (http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa29/wahyanite001/vrd.png)
Nifty! :D 8) ;)
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Post by: ceo_txi on February 24, 2008, 11:09:57 pm
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Post by: Seattle on February 25, 2008, 01:26:21 am
Quote from: "ceo_txi"
One person has ungodly amounts of cash and aircraft,and sees fit to drop prices on routes so that a small upstart cannot make money. Even though its "Legal" here,it really takes the whole fun out of it.Real airlines drop their fares for competition,but not to the point where its ridculous. Having been in and around the airline industry most of my 41 years of living,I have my own unique insight to airline Ops. And I thought this was going to be a pretty fun way to kill time and have some fun.I think maybe I was wrong,and will devote more time to my flight sim work.Unless someone proves me wrong about the above.
Well, have some paitence, and wait for multi-worlds. Try picking smaller places to start and no airline sim game can replace the real world.
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Post by: ceo_txi on February 25, 2008, 01:44:47 am
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Post by: Seattle on February 25, 2008, 01:57:21 am
Quote from: "ceo_txi"
:lol: :lol: :lol: 98% of my gates are at small regional airports,based on what the real world Texas International flew to. Oh well,its all going to reset in a frew hours anyways....nice fresh start. These past few days have been a part of the learning curve for this little game. The Peanut Flights are about to take off once again.. :P :lol: :twisted:
umm okay :lol:
Title: Demonstration of how to ruin a route :)
Post by: myefre on February 25, 2008, 02:10:47 am
Quote from: "ceo_txi"
One person has ungodly amounts of cash and aircraft,and sees fit to drop prices on routes so that a small upstart cannot make money. Even though its "Legal" here,it really takes the whole fun out of it.Real airlines drop their fares for competition,but not to the point where its ridculous. Having been in and around the airline industry most of my 41 years of living,I have my own unique insight to airline Ops. And I thought this was going to be a pretty fun way to kill time and have some fun.I think maybe I was wrong,and will devote more time to my flight sim work.Unless someone proves me wrong about the above.
Lifes rough, this rough is worse. :lol: Better learn who the airline is before you mention them. :wink:
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Post by: ceo_txi on February 25, 2008, 02:36:14 am
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Post by: myefre on February 25, 2008, 03:39:40 am
Quote from: "ceo_txi"
Quote from: "myefre"
Quote from: "ceo_txi"
One person has ungodly amounts of cash and aircraft,and sees fit to drop prices on routes so that a small upstart cannot make money. Even though its "Legal" here,it really takes the whole fun out of it.Real airlines drop their fares for competition,but not to the point where its ridculous. Having been in and around the airline industry most of my 41 years of living,I have my own unique insight to airline Ops. And I thought this was going to be a pretty fun way to kill time and have some fun.I think maybe I was wrong,and will devote more time to my flight sim work.Unless someone proves me wrong about the above.
Lifes rough, this rough is worse. :lol: Better learn who the airline is before you mention them. :wink:
Son,I know what airline it was,check your inbox.,I DO NOT push bogus info.Maybe you mistake me for some sort of juvenile deliquent who has nothing better to do,other than start a roumer. It appears someone is playing your airline without your consent then. But lets leave this issue as squashed. Let the upcoming reset start us all off, fair and square.
Cheers, Joe DeGregorio CEO - FlightLevel390.org http://www.flightlevel390.org
I ain't your son. Second I play out of Asia but I wish I was in Texas so I could use my 37 Billion is cash and squash you like the bug you are. Again get your facts straight before you come mouth off. Just cause my name here is Myefre doesn't mean I play as "Son" of Myefre.
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Post by: zkvac on February 25, 2008, 03:59:47 am
Jeez why don't you guys fight over a nerdy airline game that is resetting in 5 hours... grow up both of you. Fighting online is like racing in the special Olympics- even if you win, you're still retarded.
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Post by: ceo_txi on February 25, 2008, 04:04:42 am
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Post by: ceo_txi on February 25, 2008, 04:12:15 am
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Post by: zkvac on February 25, 2008, 04:17:49 am
There's no point trying to act macho and not back off, you won't win a prize for being the toughest nerd. If you'd spent that long in the airline industry like my dad, you'd know that sometimes (or always) it is better to just swallow your pride and let the other guy have the final say. Does it really matter? You're as bad as each other.
Hey, great contradiction in those two posts! First you say it was his airline, now you say it wasn't. I'm confused. Perhaps it would be a good idea to just forget about it? :wink:
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Post by: Vamerica on February 25, 2008, 04:43:05 am
Quote from: "jameswyhk"
(http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa29/wahyanite001/vrd.png) This personne is doing that too.
what do I do?
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Post by: Seattle on February 25, 2008, 05:08:33 am
this thread needs to be locked :D
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Post by: Vamerica on February 25, 2008, 05:09:15 am
but what did I do?
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Post by: zkvac on February 25, 2008, 05:50:42 am
Quote from: "Vamerica"
but what did I do?
Ruined a route apparently.
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Post by: Vamerica on February 25, 2008, 05:57:17 am
I may of :lol:
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Post by: Skyfox on February 25, 2008, 06:37:25 am
Shame on you route ruiner... take your capitalism elsewhere :D
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Post by: iranair777 on February 25, 2008, 07:11:33 am
I've ruined my share of routes at the end of this round :lol:
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Post by: nwadeltaboy on February 25, 2008, 01:32:31 pm
Quote from: "Vamerica"
I may of :lol:
Doug and his grammar :roll: :lol:
Title: Demonstration of how to ruin a route :)
Post by: myefre on February 25, 2008, 03:01:10 pm
Quote from: "ceo_txi"
Quote from: "zkvac"
Jeez why don't you guys fight over a nerdy airline game that is resetting in 5 hours... grow up both of you. Fighting online is like racing in the special Olympics- even if you win, you're still retarded.
I never said it was him.He is the one who came out all defensive and crap. I pointed out the airline name,and someone said dont mention airline names in the forum,so I edited my 1st post to remove the name. The dude has a serious attitude problem,and I dont care for his threats. I tried to squash the issue,but he keeps on running his pie hole. He owes me and the rest of this forum an apology for his attitude and threatning statements,if not,I want staff to deal with him. Its people like him with his attitude that ruin a good thing.And Im not the one to take threats lightly,in real life nor over the internet.
I don't owe you squat. You sent me an obnoxious PM. The title said "Stop" Then you whined that your poor little start up airline was being attacked. If you can't take it go play jacks and marbles with the girls down the street. The only threat BTW, was to squash your airline. If you take offense to that you have bigger problems. I never threatened you.
Title: Demonstration of how to ruin a route :)
Post by: ceo_txi on February 25, 2008, 03:48:08 pm
if you want to continue this, catch me on yahoo.. my screen name is DARK.RAVEN
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Post by: myefre on February 25, 2008, 03:58:36 pm
Quote from: "ceo_txi"
It was you then...The original PM I sent was to the airline...You stated that you didnt run that airline. If you didnt run that airline as you stated,then it would not have been you that got the PM.So therefore you lied. And for the record,it was not an obnoxious PM. So,with that said... we see that you are a pathetic liar...so sit down & STFU little boy.
And if you want to continue this, catch me on yahoo.. my screen name is DARK.RAVEN
You sent this PM to me.
Title: Stop
Dont you think you have enough cash and aircraft already? It really takes the fun away when you start the predatory pricing.Especially for a small upstart airline.
I am not a liar. :roll:
It's funny how with a little effort you learned what airline I really am. Why don't you take that same effort and learn you Son of Myefre is. That way you don't do anything else stupid.
Also, telling me to "STFU" is a hell of a lot closer to a threat than anything I told you you hypocrite. But that's OK. I don't mind. I'm not going to STFU though. :lol:
BTW, I found out you were running 4-7 freq on your routes. No wonder they kept editting the routes. Learn to play the game before you go off whining. :wink:
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Post by: ceo_txi on February 25, 2008, 04:09:53 pm
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Post by: myefre on February 25, 2008, 04:12:59 pm
Quote from: "ceo_txi"
Like I said...lets take this away from here...you want to act all big and crap on here,meet me on yahoo,if you have the 'nads...trust me,we about to see how much of a badd a$$ you really are.
now will someone lock this thread.
Are you going to be real mean on Yahoo? :shock: Let me find my old sweats. Don't want to ruin good clothes if we are going to rumble. :lol:
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Post by: boilermaker on February 25, 2008, 04:39:49 pm
:popcorn: :lol:
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Post by: Blue Sky Mine on February 25, 2008, 04:53:21 pm
yay, the multiple-freq-idiots are back again :?
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Post by: boilermaker on February 25, 2008, 06:38:01 pm
Quote from: "myefre"
Quote from: "ceo_txi"
It was you then...The original PM I sent was to the airline...You stated that you didnt run that airline. If you didnt run that airline as you stated,then it would not have been you that got the PM.So therefore you lied. And for the record,it was not an obnoxious PM. So,with that said... we see that you are a pathetic liar...so sit down & STFU little boy.
And if you want to continue this, catch me on yahoo.. my screen name is DARK.RAVEN
You sent this PM to me.
Title: Stop
Dont you think you have enough cash and aircraft already? It really takes the fun away when you start the predatory pricing.Especially for a small upstart airline.
I am not a liar. :roll:
It's funny how with a little effort you learned what airline I really am. Why don't you take that same effort and learn you Son of Myefre is. That way you don't do anything else stupid.
Also, telling me to "STFU" is a hell of a lot closer to a threat than anything I told you you hypocrite. But that's OK. I don't mind. I'm not going to STFU though. :lol:
BTW, I found out you were running 4-7 freq on your routes. No wonder they kept editting the routes. Learn to play the game before you go off whining. :wink:
And it looks like he's back at doing multiple frequencies again http://www.airlinemogul.com/airlinemogul/view_airport.php?id=293
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Post by: ceo_txi on February 25, 2008, 07:00:59 pm
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Post by: boilermaker on February 25, 2008, 07:06:56 pm
Quote from: "ceo_txi"
Oh wow...2 flights...wow...at least im not charging 1.00 fares like certain others are doing. In reality,there are 4 and 5 flights for each airline at each city in real life. You are making a big deal out of nothing. At least I dont have 7 flights to each city for $1.00 fares. So stop trying to stir the pot,and create more animosity.
Considering you are based out of HOU, there are a number of other airports within the range of the starter aircraft that could give you better DOP than running multiples. Stirring the pot? Hardly. Just calling it as I see it.
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Post by: ceo_txi on February 25, 2008, 07:14:28 pm
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Post by: AirHanoverInternational on February 25, 2008, 07:20:31 pm
Quote from: "ceo_txi"
Oh wow...2 flights...wow...at least im not charging 1.00 fares like certain others are doing. In reality,there are 4 and 5 flights for each airline at each city in real life. You are making a big deal out of nothing. At least I dont have 7 flights to each city for $1.00 fares. So stop trying to stir the pot,and create more animosity.
Take a look at this airport and feel better with your "just freq. 2" flights: :wink: http://www.airlinemogul.com/airlinemogul/view_airport.php?id=40
Anyway, as long as you go with the rules feel free to do anything you want to. In other words: have fun playing here! Gives me a better chance for higher rankings. 8)
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Post by: boilermaker on February 25, 2008, 07:28:00 pm
Quote from: "ceo_txi"
well,Im like new to this game.And all I am doing is mimicking the same routes that the real Texas International flew. It is strictly for nostalgic reasons.nothing more-nothing less.I dont have a desire to see who has the biggest set of balls here.But I have to try to remember that most every one here is probabley under the age of puberty,and thinks they run the world. Anyways,There is no rule that says I cant do that.Im trying to keep it as close to real as is possible. But for the record,I will not let someone disrespect me.I might let the 1st remark go by,but escalate it,and I dont hold nothing back,even if it pisses off others. I stand my ground,and dont let NO BODY intimidate me.
AM does not mimic the real world, however. Running multiple frequencies, even at 2x, decreases overall route DOP. Try running WNs DAL-HOU schedule and see what fares you get.
You get the respect you give to others.
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Post by: myefre on February 25, 2008, 07:46:31 pm
Quote from: "ceo_txi"
well,Im like new to this game.And all I am doing is mimicking the same routes that the real Texas International flew. It is strictly for nostalgic reasons.nothing more-nothing less.I dont have a desire to see who has the biggest set of balls here.But I have to try to remember that most every one here is probabley under the age of puberty,and thinks they run the world. Anyways,There is no rule that says I cant do that.Im trying to keep it as close to real as is possible. But for the record,I will not let someone disrespect me.I might let the 1st remark go by,but escalate it,and I dont hold nothing back,even if it pisses off others. I stand my ground,and dont let NO BODY intimidate me.
and challenge them to a duel at the OK Yahoo. :twisted:
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Post by: MrOrange on February 25, 2008, 09:35:30 pm
I see a lock coming this way :roll:
@myefre and ceo_txi: Act like grown-ups, no matter how under-aged you consider the general AM population to be and no matter who you think has started this argument, just stay on topic or keep this a Yahoo-talk conversation.
Title: Demonstration of how to ruin a route :)
Post by: pseudoswede on February 25, 2008, 10:08:36 pm
Quote from: "ceo_txi"
And all I am doing is mimicking the same routes that the real Texas International flew. It is strictly for nostalgic reasons.nothing more-nothing less.
Then that means you shouldn't care about how much profit you make on a route. Make your "peanuts", establish the route network, and be happy.
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Post by: dktc on February 25, 2008, 10:14:37 pm
@ ceo_txi: I think I have warned you not to post anything about this in the forum or the post will be locked. Like most of the time, I am the great predictor :lol: . Please act your age. You are behaving no more than "kids that have not hit puberty", as you have put it. Further "not backing down" and "demanding respect" could potentially result in discipinary action. If it really boils down to using "respect" as an argument, the case is pretty much lost (when you don't have any authority or legality to demand the "respect" you want, that is).
@myfere: Calm down. We (as in the MO's) have been trying to do you in for quite a while but we have not gathered any evidence to do anything at all. That means you are pretty clean (despite quite an amount of players have thought that you are cheating, because of your ranking, and your strategies). Don't give us a reason to ban you for being rude on the forum. :P :wink:
To all users: if you have to pick a fight, go elsewhere. Not only should you schedule the fight in another venue (and don't forget to send us tickets at the support address :P ), there are a lot of other games out there you could go. If you love picking fights, go to those other games (I don't want to mention names... or someone would be breathing down my neck again~... ).
Now... ice yourself down and get back on topic! or... rather... stop posting in this topic :roll:
*edit: The "doing myfere in" part sounds a bit evil :lol: . That is more of a joke when I posted that... but in reality, we do keep track of him, just so we could tell the players who email us about him that he is legal with confident. :) *
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Post by: myefre on February 25, 2008, 10:48:02 pm
Quote from: "dktc"
*edit: The "doing myfere in" part sounds a bit evil :lol: . That is more of a joke when I posted that... but in reality, we do keep track of him, just so we could tell the players who email us about him that he is legal with confident. :) *
:shock: :twisted: :shock: 8) :shock:
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Post by: boilermaker on February 26, 2008, 12:09:07 am
Quote from: "dktc"
edit: The "doing myfere in" part sounds a bit evil :lol: . That is more of a joke when I posted that... but in reality, we do keep track of him, just so we could tell the players who email us about him that he is legal with confident. :) *
AFIAK, myefre likes folks doing evil against him. Or at least if you're a leather-clad female :twisted:
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Post by: dktc on February 26, 2008, 12:23:08 am
Quote from: "boilermaker"
AFIAK, myefre likes folks doing evil against him. Or at least if you're a leather-clad female :twisted:
*ahem*.... Stephen said no sexual implication in the forum. (Otherwise, I would have responded differently, but ...)
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Post by: myefre on February 26, 2008, 02:21:22 am
To whom it may concern: The staring plane has 94 seats not 14 or so like in the past. Going multiple freq now will destroy the routes before we get out of the first month.
Try a little experiment. Instead of doing two freq, find an airport about the same distance and same size. Do 1 freq to BOTH airports and take notice how you have more DOP from those two flights than a 2 freq flight to one place..
Title: Demonstration of how to ruin a route :)
Post by: boilermaker on February 26, 2008, 03:14:13 am
Quote from: "myefre"
To whom it may concern: The staring plane has 94 seats not 14 or so like in the past. Going multiple freq now will destroy the routes before we get out of the first month.
Try a little experiment. Instead of doing two freq, find an airport about the same distance and same size. Do 1 freq to BOTH airports and take notice how you have more DOP from those two flights than a 2 freq flight to one place..
Brilliant idea!
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Post by: Jps on February 26, 2008, 09:48:16 am
Which is still off topic. I request this thread locked.
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Post by: ceo_txi on March 01, 2008, 03:29:47 pm
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Post by: Jps on March 01, 2008, 03:36:12 pm
Please... Go bother Dex's thread instead. I am not responsible for any damage caused by anyone. :lol:
Thank you
Please discuss this outside. Or Green Industries will come crushing you down. CRUSHING YOU DOWN.
BASH CRUSH BoOM!
Nukes armed.
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Post by: ceo_txi on March 01, 2008, 03:40:50 pm
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Post by: Jps on March 01, 2008, 03:48:13 pm
:roll: just email :staff:. Or daniel.chan@airlinemogul.com
daniel.chan@airlinemogul.com is better. believe me :lol:
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Post by: ceo_txi on March 01, 2008, 03:54:36 pm
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Post by: Jps on March 01, 2008, 03:59:10 pm
Great :lol: .
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Post by: ealvarez on March 01, 2008, 04:00:56 pm
why not just beatem at his own game? hes gotta be losing money on those routes already, put something large with alot of seats and see how long he sticks around :lol:
granted youll only be making a very small profit for awhile on that route but sometimes you gotta play fire with fire :evil:
Title: Demonstration of how to ruin a route :)
Post by: dktc on March 01, 2008, 04:01:37 pm
I will tell you this:
The player in concern has NO VIOLATION whatsoever. I have verified that with Bryce Rea, our other Membership Officer. Both of us have gone through myfere's account after I have received your email, just to make absolutely certain I have not missed anything.
That being said, I don't have any basis to ban the player as you request. I can't ban NON-cheater. If you say I could, I could ban you as well (simple logic).
All I could offer is an account reset so you could move to another base / region to avoid the player.
If you want to put out bad publicity of this game, feel free to do so. Please also post the links to your forum, so other player on our game could respond on our behalf.
As I have stated before, act your age. This is a game, if you are not happy here, you don't have to be here. If you are trying to blame us admins, I have to say that I have warned you not to target the player and said what you did. You just got what you asked for basically. (I am not saying I agree with myfere's action, but neither do I agree with yours.)
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Post by: dktc on March 01, 2008, 04:06:01 pm
Quote from: "ceo_txi"
And I dont give a damn about the rule of not mentioning an airlines name here in the forum,dont like it?,too bad.
And for this, I question your maturity.
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Post by: ceo_txi on March 01, 2008, 04:07:15 pm
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Post by: Emirates on March 01, 2008, 04:10:38 pm
Enjoy the competition, like I do with dktc.
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Post by: dktc on March 01, 2008, 04:14:19 pm
Quote from: "ceo_txi"
regardless if you say hes clean or not..it smells like you guys are involved as well.
:lol: Did I mention I question your maturity? Low blow, really low. Even lower than what Jps does :P
Quote from: "Emirates"
Enjoy the competition, like I do with dktc.
I am not even expanding, even though I could :wink: So yea, we are very peaceful at DOH :)
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Post by: pseudoswede on March 01, 2008, 04:14:32 pm
Quote from: "ceo_txi"
screw that..The guy has way more $$ than I do....How he got the $$ ? I dont know and dont care... As I stated in my emails to stephen and daniel,screw this.close my account. I have better things to do than deal with cheaters. regardless if you say hes clean or not..it smells like you guys are involved as well. So take this game and shove it as far as the sun dont shine anymore.
Don't let the door hit you on the way out, 'tard.
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Post by: dktc on March 01, 2008, 04:16:04 pm
Quote from: "pseudoswede"
Quote from: "ceo_txi"
screw that..The guy has way more $$ than I do....How he got the $$ ? I dont know and dont care... As I stated in my emails to stephen and daniel,screw this.close my account. I have better things to do than deal with cheaters. regardless if you say hes clean or not..it smells like you guys are involved as well. So take this game and shove it as far as the sun dont shine anymore.
Don't let the door hit you on the way out, 'tard.
*cough* Please mind your manners. Although communicating on the recipients' level usually get the message across better, it is still not allowed in this forum :P
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Post by: boilermaker on March 01, 2008, 04:26:32 pm
Quote from: "ceo_txi"
what he is doing to my routes.
It doesn't look any different than what you were doing last round.
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Post by: dktc on March 01, 2008, 04:29:21 pm
*edited by dktc: links removed on request by FL390 and TXI admininstration*
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Post by: ceo_txi on March 01, 2008, 04:34:01 pm
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Post by: dktc on March 01, 2008, 04:41:04 pm
Quote from: "ceo_txi"
dk,you have no right to post my forum addresses to invite attacks on me.
I have not invited "attacks" on you. You threatened to bad-mouth us (which our users found amusing), so I just want to let the entertainment to continue by directing our users to view your websites (esp. the boycott banners :lol: ). You could always ban any users on your sites, so it is not smart to "attack" you there, even if you don't speak the whole truth. As for posting website addresses... hmm... since when is that prohibited?
I really don't understand why you are that nervous about people knowing your websites. Just a google search could yield a lot. And btw, the last I heard, we are teh ones being bad-mouthed, not you.
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Post by: pseudoswede on March 01, 2008, 04:47:32 pm
Quote from: "ceo_txi"
I will wait to see what staff does,before I turn my dogs loose on you. Since you have taken things to a personal level, I expect staff here to deal with it. But should they do nothin,I have my own methods,and owning 2 websites and being known worldwide,I can put out the word about anybody and make things difficult. This BS has gone on long enough. Its not even fun no more,and thanks to little pricks like you,but you will pay,trust me.
IMO, these almost sound more like malicious attacks against the fourms and/or website. Not in the game.
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Post by: Chavaquiah on March 01, 2008, 04:48:08 pm
Quote from: "ceo_txi"
This BS has gone on long enough.
Indeed.
Entertaining as this pueril outbursts always are, even you must as some point realize what a shameful figure you're making. For your sake, why don't you go away? For once.
And please, take the dogs you menaced to unleash with you. Making (admitedly empty and infantile) threats of attacking this game in your forum and not expecting retaliation was not smart. But then, nothing you've been posting in here has been.
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Post by: dktc on March 01, 2008, 04:49:58 pm
I just don't understand why someone his age would do such things :lol:
Btw, prove that we have any connection to the "gang" (which happens to be 1 player) first. If you can't even prove connection, and you can't prove he is cheating (which in fact he isn't), then we have no motive and no mean to be cheating with him. As a result, you bad-mouthing us would be an intentional damage to our reputation, which could also result in legal actions, as you are so fond of it.
Let me be clear on this, we, as AM admins, has not assisted myfere in any means to achieve the status he has achieved in game. He has not even leased from DEX this round. Myfere has not done anything against our game rules this round. So all your claims are false. With this said, we resevre the rights to take legal actions against you and your websites for future comments of similar nature.
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Post by: Emirates on March 01, 2008, 04:51:00 pm
Quote from: "ceo_txi"
dk,you have no right to post my forum addresses to invite attacks on me.
*edit* Those links are actually my website addresses...not my forum addresses. so its all good.besides,being the owner,I can do many things,including tracking IP's that just open one of my website pages. So,DK,if you or any of your cronies have malicious thoughts of doing anything to my sites,it will back fire on you,and the only thing it will get you is owned. And as far as bad mouthing you....prove me wrong and I'll retract my statement about associating you with the cheat gang. 'Nuff said.
Your website templates are rather poor, and anyway you should be happy to gain some more traffic. :wink:
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Post by: myefre on March 01, 2008, 04:56:52 pm
What's going on here? Is there some cheating going on? :shock: That wouldn't be a good thing. :cry: Do we need a group hug? :oops: {{{HUG}}}
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Post by: ceo_txi on March 01, 2008, 04:57:21 pm
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Post by: Seattle on March 01, 2008, 04:58:48 pm
Can someone recap what happened here? :P
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Post by: pseudoswede on March 01, 2008, 04:59:42 pm
Quote from: "ceo_txi"
And as far as bad mouthing you....prove me wrong and I'll retract my statement about associating you with the cheat gang. 'Nuff said.
So then what part of ...
Quote from: "dktc"
The player in concern has NO VIOLATION whatsoever.
... do you not understand?
The admins have much better things to do than be in cahoots with a random player on the internet.
You're the one on this forum making false accusations against two separate players whom you think are the same people. In addition, they are playing the game within the boundary of the rules. If someone is flying a BAe 5x between HOU-DAL and charging €50 for it, either compete or go do another route.
But since all you (apparently) want to do is just simply do a mock-up route network of Texas International, I don't understand why you're so upset. Create the route network, be happy, and make as much money as those routes can make. And if you go into bankruptcy because you can't compete on those routes, then, congratulations, you've just mimicked Texas International.
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Post by: dktc on March 01, 2008, 05:00:19 pm
Quote from: "ceo_txi"
I never said I was going to post anything in MY forums
Quote from: "ceo_txi"
Seems like myefre has changed his name to TXI Squasher. And is making a personal attack on me and my routes. I have emailed staff,but I also have your IP # and matched it against the old...busted dude. I will wait to see what staff does,before I turn my dogs loose on you. Since you have taken things to a personal level, I expect staff here to deal with it. But should they do nothin,I have my own methods,and owning 2 websites and being known worldwide,I can put out the word about anybody and make things difficult. This BS has gone on long enough. Its not even fun no more,and thanks to little pricks like you,but you will pay,trust me.
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Post by: Seattle on March 01, 2008, 05:01:35 pm
Quote from: "ceo_txi"
Quote from: "mg35pt"
Quote from: "ceo_txi"
This BS has gone on long enough.
Indeed.
Entertaining as this pueril outbursts always are, even you must as some point realize what a shameful figure you're making. For your sake, why don't you go away? For once.
And please, take the dogs you menaced to unleash with you. Making (admitedly empty and infantile) threats of attacking this game in your forum and not expecting retaliation was not smart. But then, nothing you've been posting in here has been.
I never said I was going to post anything in MY forums.And as far as negative comments go....Thats all I got from former members when I first mentioned this game to them.Especially the old name of this game,which has been changed to it's present A.M. name. So,for the record,I has of yet to spread a negative word about whats going on here,but many others have and are doing it already..so I really dont need to contribute to it.I just affirmed their statements. And the only thing you can do is lamely try to refute my own experience here and putting the blame on me....thats really professional isnt it?....NOT.
There used to be another name for AM :o :shock:
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Post by: dktc on March 01, 2008, 05:04:51 pm
Quote from: "pseudoswede"
You're the one on this forum making false accusations against two separate players whom you think are the same people.
Fact is myefre is TXI Squasher. However, our players could always rebrand their airlines themselves in the admin page. That being said, myefre is only using one account. He has not violated the multi-acct rule, and not the feeder rule as well. He has not violated the n.5 rule. We don't have caps on freq anymore. We always target our competitor at the same base (which is a given, I target Emirates as well... whenever I adjust the price). So...no violation. Simple.
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Post by: pseudoswede on March 01, 2008, 05:07:00 pm
Quote from: "dktc"
Quote from: "pseudoswede"
You're the one on this forum making false accusations against two separate players whom you think are the same people.
Fact is myefre is TXI Squasher. However, our players could always rebrand their airlines themselves in the admin page.
I sent you a PM a while back about the two airlines that ceo_txi is accusing of being run by the same person.
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Post by: dktc on March 01, 2008, 05:12:29 pm
Quote from: "pseudoswede"
I sent you a PM a while back about the two airlines that ceo_txi is accusing of being run by the same person.
Yea... anyway... if he doesn't trust us, then go. We are not forcing him to be here. It is sad how people could have that much of a difference in physical and psychological age. (I am talking about those with Down's and other similar illnesses... I exhibit "special-interest pleading" (Tubbs 83) in this group interaction, shoot me.)
*Tubbs, Stewart L., (2007) A Systems Approach to Small Group Interaction McGraw-Hill Companies, Inc., New York, NY
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Post by: Seattle on March 01, 2008, 05:14:19 pm
you MLA'ed it :lol:
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Post by: dktc on March 01, 2008, 05:14:56 pm
Quote from: "Seattle"
you MLA'ed it :lol:
I have academic integrity :wink:
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Post by: ceo_txi on March 01, 2008, 05:17:42 pm
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Post by: dktc on March 01, 2008, 05:18:46 pm
Quote from: "ceo_txi"
Thats what seperates a good professionaly ran game platform from a bunk one.
We don't even get paid... so sorry. Please try some pay-game instead. (we would have been dead if this is our profession)
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Post by: ceo_txi on March 01, 2008, 05:46:46 pm
Quote from: "pseudoswede"
Quote from: "ceo_txi"
And as far as bad mouthing you....prove me wrong and I'll retract my statement about associating you with the cheat gang. 'Nuff said.
So then what part of ...
Quote from: "dktc"
The player in concern has NO VIOLATION whatsoever.
... do you not understand?
The admins have much better things to do than be in cahoots with a random player on the internet.
You're the one on this forum making false accusations against two separate players whom you think are the same people. In addition, they are playing the game within the boundary of the rules. If someone is flying a BAe 5x between HOU-DAL and charging €50 for it, either compete or go do another route.
But since all you (apparently) want to do is just simply do a mock-up route network of Texas International, I don't understand why you're so upset. Create the route network, be happy, and make as much money as those routes can make. And if you go into bankruptcy because you can't compete on those routes, then, congratulations, you've just mimicked Texas International.
That shows what you know...TXI did not go into Bankruptcy because they couldnt compete.They BOUGHT Continental Airlines and since Continental was the more worldwidely known name,it was kept instead of Texas International. So,Pseudo,best thing you can do,is stop playing hookey from school and get educated,because your lack of knowledge is evident,with your statement.
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Post by: dktc on March 01, 2008, 05:51:20 pm
Enough is enough. If you want to go, GO!
If you think you could gain back you account or that we would accept your excuse of an complaint, that is not going to happen.
Stop harrassing out players, and leave. (If you are not capable of that, I will help you)
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Post by: Air Elbonia on March 01, 2008, 05:52:29 pm
Quote from: "ceo_txi"
Especially the old name of this game,which has been changed to it's present A.M. name.
We used to have another name? whaaaaat?
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Post by: pseudoswede on March 01, 2008, 05:53:42 pm
Quote from: "ceo_txi"
That shows what you know...TXI did not go into Bankruptcy because they couldnt compete.They BOUGHT Continental Airlines and since Continental was the more worldwidely known name,it was kept instead of Texas International. So,Pseudo,best thing you can do,is stop playing hookey from school and get educated,because your lack of knowledge is evident,with your statement.
No, Texas Jet bought Continental. Then Frank Lorenzo raided TXI's piggy bank to start up New York Air and bought Continental.
You're obviously one of those internet people (and probably in real life) who think is always right, especially since you will never retract your false accusations and rather argue about the history of TXI. I'll stop reading this thread.
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Post by: ealvarez on March 01, 2008, 05:54:59 pm
why is it i feel like we're back in kindergarten again? :roll:
ITS A GAME! what do they say when you cant handle the heat?
if your not happy with the game, go play another. simple as that. these guys dont get paid to provide a FREE game, but they do it anyway. should they start arguing with us cause we're using too much bandwidth?
enough already
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Post by: MrOrange on March 01, 2008, 06:34:10 pm
Oh, I love this thread... Especially this part
Quote from: "ceo_txi"
Its not even fun no more, and thanks to little pricks like you, but you will pay, trust me.
(Quote edited for spaces after each comma)
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Post by: Thanks_for_the_upgrade on March 01, 2008, 06:46:59 pm
This kid is adorable isn't he? I can just see him shaking his little fists with fury every time we point out his logic holes and debunked accusations. Every time I close my eyes and picture it, I come up with Eggbert sitting on a stack of telephone books as a booster seat so he can reach the computer desk.
And if you'd like to sick your dogs on me good luck. The first 400 google hits for my name are nothing but positive. right around link 410 is a police blotter from an incident where I paralyzed a mugger, but from there on down it's positive again.
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Post by: myefre on March 01, 2008, 09:23:08 pm
Quote from: "ceo_txi"
When its done in fun and not for malicious reasons,thats all good. I havent targeted anybody. The routes were empty,and kingfisher jumped in,and I did not lower my fares to 50.00 to screw him around. I welcomed the competition,and in fact,and we kept the fares at reasonable levels,and we both made decent money. But when you get blatent like your 4itch boy did, I have issue with that. Thats what seperates a good professionaly ran game platform from a bunk one.
Trust me, it was done in good fun :wink: and you delivered exceptionally :lol:
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Post by: myefre on March 01, 2008, 09:25:18 pm
Quote from: "ceo_txi"
So,Pseudo,best thing you can do,is stop playing hookey from school and get educated,because your lack of knowledge is evident,with your statement.
It's Saturday, there is no school today :lol:
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Post by: airplane2011@msn.com on March 01, 2008, 09:28:22 pm
Quote from: myefre
Quote from: "ceo_txi"
So,Pseudo,best thing you can do,is stop playing hookey from school and get educated,because your lack of knowledge is evident,with your statement.
Well, your lack of knowledge is evident also. You can go study your english, grammar, and comma placement!
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Post by: MrOrange on March 01, 2008, 09:30:57 pm
Quote from: airplane2011@msn.com
Quote from: "myefre"
Quote from: "ceo_txi"
So,Pseudo,best thing you can do,is stop playing hookey from school and get educated,because your lack of knowledge is evident,with your statement.
Well, your lack of knowledge is evident also. You can go study your english, grammar, and comma placement!
Comma placement might be correct, depending on what he's saying. It could be:
Quote
So best thing you can do, is stop playing hooky from school and get educated with your statement, because your lack of knowledge is evident, Pseudo.
In that case, just some minor interpunction mistakes.
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Post by: Jps on March 02, 2008, 02:44:15 am
Oh my.. my thread turned into a war scene. :roll:
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Post by: Thanks_for_the_upgrade on March 02, 2008, 03:12:49 am
It has, but certain people just bring it upon themselves.
It's been said here before; "this is a game, treat it as such". I'm an old man by comparison and grew up in the "game board" era. You learned a lot more about strategy and game theory back then, I don't know why. The problem with City-Taxi is that he doesn't understand cause and effect in MMOG's. Something he (player A) does eventually causes an adverse effect to another player (player B). So in his mind, he should do as he pleases to replicate Texas Airways' (OWTF) real live schedule, but he doesn't understand that we're malicious game players not dictated by corporate accounting departments and stock holders. I would have no problem dropping every single fare he shares with me to 1 Euro because it's a game. There is no tangible reward/penalty to me. In real life if I did that, my airline would be mocked by every single media outlet known to man for it's asinine business decisions.
That aside, TXI, just seriously relax. Breathe. Count to ten. Walk away from the game for a few days (to build up a large cash base) then come back and buy several very fast planes then stick it to the other players.
In no game nor no sport has a whining player ever been able to convert a judges decision, or in this case, public opinion. This is not a team sports, it's every man for himself. As a gesture of good faith, I'll broker some aircraft for you just to get you moving along. PM me if you'd like; UnderwAir.
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Post by: myefre on March 02, 2008, 03:49:35 am
Quote from: "Jps"
Oh my.. my thread turned into a war scene. :roll:
Don't you feel bad? :lol:
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Post by: Jps on March 02, 2008, 04:04:44 am
No! I don't but you should!
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Post by: pseudoswede on March 02, 2008, 05:23:24 am
Quote from: "Jps"
No! I don't but you should!
Why? He is (and always has been) operating within the boundaries of the game. The troll that started this mess was making false accusations and making threats against him and the game.
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Post by: myefre on March 02, 2008, 05:42:34 am
Quote from: "Jps"
No! I don't but you should!
I feel bad the the real "Son of Myefre" hasn't been found. :cry:
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Post by: Fox Airways on March 02, 2008, 06:12:15 am
Quote from: "myefre"
Quote from: "Jps"
No! I don't but you should!
I feel bad the the real "Son of Myefre" hasn't been found. :cry: