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Non-Airline Mogul => General Chat => Topic started by: nwadeltaboy on February 08, 2008, 03:35:18 am
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Here it is, just trying to save sla31's thread!
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*insert the subject of this thread here...*... is a joke. Entertaining...
... if this wasn't the election for one of the most powerful position in the world.
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the most powerful position in the world.
Yeah, that's scary considering the bozo that spent the last 8 years there. But Dubya has no real power, he has been run like a puppet on a string by those who pay the most, and his dad and Cheney.
No offense to Sla, but I hope there will be a change in powers, republicans have *apple pied* too much up already. (Apple pie was written by me so that Admins didn't have to :lol:). If John McCain wins the elections I fear that terror and war will continue as he is the weapons industry lobbies number one candidate...
Let flaming begin....
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I personally couldn't care less. Americans have to be one of the most arrogant and ignorant nationalities in the world. Sorry to any non-ignorant Americans out there who actually know where Kazakhstan is on a map.. Or don't think that Europe is a country..
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I personally couldn't care less. Americans have to be one of the most arrogant and ignorant nationalities in the world. Sorry to any non-ignorant Americans out there who actually know where Kazakhstan is on a map.. Or don't think that Europe is a country..
Basically, I don't find the average American to be arrogant. Most of them don't even have the "requirement" to be arrogant (ie. intelligence :P ). Ignorant and self-oriented is very true. They think US is all there is (maybe + Canada, Mexico, and the Bahamas <- for booze). It is that mentality that results in the perception of arrogance, which in fact is plain ignorance and stupidity.
Politics is not healthy, regardless of the way the government is formed. There are too much conflicting interest in democracies. (I am not saying dictatorship is good, just that democracy is no better).
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Take this to see how smart you truly are :roll:
http://www.iqtest.com/
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There are too much conflicting interest in democracies. (I am not saying dictatorship is good, just that democracy is no better).
It is better- but not for this game!
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I personally couldn't care less. Americans have to be one of the most arrogant and ignorant nationalities in the world. Sorry to any non-ignorant Americans out there who actually know where Kazakhstan is on a map.. Or don't think that Europe is a country..
This is a very offensive comment. Obviously you've never been to the US. :roll:
Dont ever listen to the news becuase most of the time its wrong. (Yes there are some stupid people in the US, but there are some stupid people in New Zealand, Australia, the UK, China, etc.) :roll:
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Take this to see how smart you truly are :roll:
http://www.iqtest.com/
Well, I have taken 3 different IQ-tests including Mensa, the 2 first showed 133 and 134, Mensa I had a bad day and scored 129, 1 point short of membership, but I will take the test again sometime. I also scored 1.8 on the Swedish test for University studies, where 2.0 is max. Approx 5-6 score 2.0 out of 50.000, 1.8 is top 2%.
Still I sometimes feel like an idiot, so an IQ-test is not all that counts when it comes to intelligence. And you do not need intelligence to run for office, you have staff that aid you in everything from toilet paper brand to nuking North Korea.
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It has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all the others that have been tried. - Winston Churchill
I have travelled throughout Europe and the Middle East, as well as every region of the United States, and I can assure you from first hand knowledge that we Americans do NOT have the market cornered on stupidity or ignorance. Perhaps you should spend less time watching CNN - which is fairly hardcore anti-American - and try investigating the world on your own. Then you just might discover that your ingrained stereotypical beliefs aren't quite as accurate as the media would like you to believe.
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There are smart people in US and there are stupid people elsewhere. (That goes without saying :wink: )
IQ tests are not necessarily accurate indicators of smartness / intelligences. There are ways to increase one's performances with IQ tests. These tests are also related to various background / social economic class / cultural / heritage ... factors. Technically, these tests are somehow baised in certain ways. However, if you have to go by those kinds of indicators... I got into the Chinese University of Hong Kong's Gift and Talented program in highschool. I scored full 800 for the math/logic part of SAT I without studying (actually I only spent 2 hours skimming through a book from the library the day before the test :roll: and barely knew the format and the score calculation :roll: and I skipped the final for Hong Kong Olympiad in Infomatics to take SAT :roll: , and no, I didn't prepare for the first round of HKOI as well :roll: ). Good enough for you? :P (yes... I am lazy, shoot me :P )
Now... CNN... don't even get me started :roll: . I still remember the day I got stranded in IND with a couple of friends and we were watching TV in the motel room... when CNN claimed that we should tip our hairdressers 100% for Xmas, and something like 10 dollars (didn't remember that exactly, because we didn't follow that :roll: ) for the delivery guy to show some Xmas spirit. IDIOTS :roll: .
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I personally couldn't care less. Americans have to be one of the most arrogant and ignorant nationalities in the world. Sorry to any non-ignorant Americans out there who actually know where Kazakhstan is on a map.. Or don't think that Europe is a country..
This statement reminds me of a comedian using american cliche:
A german visited a bar in Texas. When the barkeeper noticed that he was german he raised his left arm and shouted: "Heil Hitler!"
The german jumped from his chair eyes wide open and said: "Hitler is already dead."
The barkeeper replied: "I feel so sorry."
Anyway, I have been in the US and met many people there and I met other americans that stayed some time in Europe. Not all of them were ignorant or arrogant. They had even known a lot about the european history. Although I have to admit that the younger people thought "Rammstein" would represent the typical german youth. I dont know, if they are allowed to sing all of their songs in the US. :roll: Funnily enough that I bought a CD of them over there coz it contained two songs that were translated in english.
Back on topic: I dont know who will win the elections. I am not really familiar with those three (or are there still more?) canditates that seem to have good chances. Just to start a discussion: I would go for Obama.
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the most powerful position in the world.
Yeah, that's scary considering the bozo that spent the last 8 years there. But Dubya has no real power, he has been run like a puppet on a string by those who pay the most, and his dad and Cheney.
No offense to Sla, but I hope there will be a change in powers, republicans have *apple pied* too much up already. (Apple pie was written by me so that Admins didn't have to :lol:). If John McCain wins the elections I fear that terror and war will continue as he is the weapons industry lobbies number one candidate...
Let flaming begin....
None taken, everyone has different views. Everyone can tell who I like. :lol:
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I personally couldn't care less. Americans have to be one of the most arrogant and ignorant nationalities in the world. Sorry to any non-ignorant Americans out there who actually know where Kazakhstan is on a map.. Or don't think that Europe is a country..
(http://www.eurasianet.org/resource/kazakhstan/images/kazakhstan_map2.gif)
:lol:
back on topic...if i was old enough, i would vote for Obama :D
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OK, curiousity is getting the better of me now. Why Huckabee or why Obama? At this point, the only candidate that even marginally appealed to me has dropped out, so I'm looking for more information about the rest of the people who are left. I don't care to hear the negatives about the others, just real, solid reasons to vote FOR a candidate. Something real and concrete (i.e.: the Obama girl is not reason enough to vote for him..... :? )
Any takers for any of the candidates?
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the most powerful position in the world.
Yeah, that's scary considering the bozo that spent the last 8 years there. But Dubya has no real power, he has been run like a puppet on a string by those who pay the most, and his dad and Cheney.
No offense to Sla, but I hope there will be a change in powers, republicans have *apple pied* too much up already. (Apple pie was written by me so that Admins didn't have to :lol:). If John McCain wins the elections I fear that terror and war will continue as he is the weapons industry lobbies number one candidate...
Let flaming begin....
Spoken truly like someone who has no real idea on how the US government is operated.
A. Its not a democracy, its a Federal Republic. In a democracy, every citizen has a vote on every subject. In a republic, the citizens elect representitives to vote for them.
B. The Office of the President has very little real power, he can propose things, he can send troops out in an emergency situation, but realistically Congress wields the power. But that is the way the founding fathers set it up on purpose.
Anyone the Republicans put up is better than either the Socialist, or the guy who had been consistantly rated 'the worst legislator' in Illinois Legislature. At least the three canidates there have enough experience to properly do the job.
As a parent, McCain would be the only current canidate I would feel right about sending soliders into action. He has the first hand knowledge of what challenges those men and women would face and the outcomes of them.
I fully believe that China will launch an offensive war within the next 40 years. No communist system has lasted more than 100 years. China's manufacturing economy is growing too quickly and their agriculture suffers because of it. Already at this point they can't feed their current population, and that problem is only going to worsen. The triple effects of shrinking agriculture output, increasing enviromental damage, increasing population is going to force them into some kind of action.
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I personally couldn't care less. Americans have to be one of the most arrogant and ignorant nationalities in the world. Sorry to any non-ignorant Americans out there who actually know where Kazakhstan is on a map.. Or don't think that Europe is a country..
(http://www.eurasianet.org/resource/kazakhstan/images/kazakhstan_map2.gif)
:lol:
back on topic...if i was old enough, i would vote for Obama :D
hehe, you do realize that this map has the wrong capital city? Oh well, it doesn't really matter.
As for me I would rather have Obama and then Clinton. One thing which really concerns me is our environment and I believe that democratic candidates will address the problem of global warming better. Unless maybe Arnold Schwarzenegger would run, but at this point in time that is impossible of course.
Additionally, I fear that republican candidates might keep their aggressive course in the Middle East which would divide the world even further. It's unbelievable the amount of people who declare that they hate the United States.... and it wasn't always like this. Through Bush the US has lost a lot of credit. Somebody has to go out and build trust again....Especially Obama would seem to be the right guy :wink:
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I fully believe that China will launch an offensive war within the next 40 years. No communist system has lasted more than 100 years. China's manufacturing economy is growing too quickly and their agriculture suffers because of it. Already at this point they can't feed their current population, and that problem is only going to worsen. The triple effects of shrinking agriculture output, increasing enviromental damage, increasing population is going to force them into some kind of action.
I would argue about that... but who knows what would happen? Maybe the US would nuke China in 20 years because they fear what you said China would do in 40 years. :roll:
(And the fear you have, I would attribute that to generation gap and the socialization you had when you were small... so not your fault. It is the society's fault.)
As for whether the President has any "real power", seriously... whenever he says something wrong, the stock prices drop and the oil prices raise. :wink: Good enough? (I guess what I am trying to say is that when that guy is perceived as powerful, what he says matter, regardless of how capable he is of delivering on what he says. If he says the country will go to war in China, even the congress doesn't approve, I believe China would "strike back" before the congress has time to vote... and then US would "strike back" as well. :roll: )
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Well, i kind of agree since i am into military warfare and military aircraft, i no that China has been building there Air Force massivly for something no one knows about and have nowgot tons of nuclear wepons which scares me :x :lol:
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Well, i kind of agree since i am into military warfare and military aircraft, i no that China has been building there Air Force massivly for something no one knows about and have nowgot tons of nuclear wepons which scares me :x :lol:
No worries. As far as I know, US is still the biggest spender on military and US still has the most nuclear weapon I think :wink: (not to mention the most Texas cowboys :P :lol: )
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yes you run out of ops send in the cowboys :lol:
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btw regarding stupidity or ignorance, it's spread all over the world and not circumscripted in just the US.
I fairly think the place where I live has a lot of ignorant people.
Just yesterday my classmate asked me where would Singapore be(Ok this might be to hard for him) or people believe that The Capital of Australia is Sydney and even after the Burmese/Myanmar Junta people still didn't know where is that place. Many people don't even know what's apartheid. Just a year ago a TV programme interviewed some politicians (more Senators or House representatives) and they didn't even know when did the French Revolution happened or referred Afghanistan as Afakistan .
But the worst is yet to come. Once i witnessed a conversation asking a Singhalese whether it rained in his country or not :shock:.
Intelligence will for sure bring you far but you need that minimum of common sense to live life.
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As for whether the President has any "real power", seriously... whenever he says something wrong, the stock prices drop and the oil prices raise.
And same holds true for the Chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank. Should I be concerned about his lack of foreign policy experience?
As CornField pointed out, the real power in the United States is in the Congress, not the Executive Branch, all the implications of an "Imperial Presidency" notwithstanding. In the end, the President can only do what Congress funds him for. No funding=no action. Period. It is the power of the purse.
The President is the most over-rated position there is. His real power is limited. In every case I can think of since I was born, he is elected based on promises that he has no authority to keep. The President cannot enact universal healthcare or the FairTax or make a cut in spending - all of that is the purview of Congress, as is the funding and declaration of war. He can't even propose the bills for any of these items. More than anything else, he is the saber-rattler in chief.
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=lj3iNxZ8Dww :lol:
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And same holds true for the Chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank. Should I be concerned about his lack of foreign policy experience?
for one of the most powerful position in the world.
:wink:
... and maybe you should...
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Shes very bright :lol:
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pathetic, isn't it? :lol:
back on topic. i don't care who becomes president because whoever it is is definitely going to be better than George W. Tush :lol:
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Tush! lol :lol:
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I fully believe that China will launch an offensive war within the next 40 years. No communist system has lasted more than 100 years. China's manufacturing economy is growing too quickly and their agriculture suffers because of it. Already at this point they can't feed their current population, and that problem is only going to worsen. The triple effects of shrinking agriculture output, increasing enviromental damage, increasing population is going to force them into some kind of action.
I would argue about that... but who knows what would happen? Maybe the US would nuke China in 20 years because they fear what you said China would do in 40 years. :roll:
(And the fear you have, I would attribute that to generation gap and the socialization you had when you were small... so not your fault. It is the society's fault.)
As for whether the President has any "real power", seriously... whenever he says something wrong, the stock prices drop and the oil prices raise. :wink: Good enough? (I guess what I am trying to say is that when that guy is perceived as powerful, what he says matter, regardless of how capable he is of delivering on what he says. If he says the country will go to war in China, even the congress doesn't approve, I believe China would "strike back" before the congress has time to vote... and then US would "strike back" as well. :roll: )
Actually, if you want to attribute any of what I said to the 'generation' that I grew up in, I would have said that the Soviet Union would launch the war........
My statement is based on economics, a study of history, and watching the Chinese government run students over with tanks for protesting......
The president cannot cause stock prices to drop with his statements. That requires the actions of traders. The traders want to percieve something in the statement, so they can profit from it. Oil prices ran up so badly this summer, not due to the actions or inactions of the government. They ran up due to oil traders driving them there. Or if you want to believe the press, China's exploding consumption. I know that as a Chinese citizen you are going to defend the Chinese actions at every opportunity. But the facts remain, currently the US and Chinese economies are invariably linked. One of your own Economic Ministers(I'm sorry I don't remember exactly which one) recently said so....
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back on topic. i don't care who becomes president because whoever it is is definitely going to be better than George W. Tush :lol:
Thanks for once again proving the point as to why we don't let 13-year olds vote......
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I have one name. Obama
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As for whether the President has any "real power", seriously... whenever he says something wrong, the stock prices drop and the oil prices raise.
And same holds true for the Chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank. Should I be concerned about his lack of foreign policy experience?
As CornField pointed out, the real power in the United States is in the Congress, not the Executive Branch, all the implications of an "Imperial Presidency" notwithstanding. In the end, the President can only do what Congress funds him for. No funding=no action. Period. It is the power of the purse.
The President is the most over-rated position there is. His real power is limited. In every case I can think of since I was born, he is elected based on promises that he has no authority to keep. The President cannot enact universal healthcare or the FairTax or make a cut in spending - all of that is the purview of Congress, as is the funding and declaration of war. He can't even propose the bills for any of these items. More than anything else, he is the saber-rattler in chief.
Yes, you should be concerned about Ben Bernancke's lack of foreign policy experience. I know I am concerned. Alan Greespan's tenure as the Fed Chief showed us exactly how powerful this appointed position really is.
Technically, the President has exactly the same power to propose a bill to Congress as any citizen of voting age. He still has to get a Congressperson to introduce it. The main difference is his access to Congresspersons. The War Powers Emergency Act allows the President to send forth troops in defense of 'national interests', it also allows him to maintain a state of conflict for a certain period of days without a formal approval from Congress.(either 30 or 60 days, its been many years since my last government class)
But at the end of the day it really does come down to 'who has the checkbook'.....
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I have one name. Obama
One question, why?
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well im not like NwaBoy that doesn't do research. I have done research on the internet kept to the news and had a class on the running of president. And I just found that he is a better choice
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War Powers allows for 60 days. The problem is that the Constitutionality of the Act is still in question. As long as that question hangs out there, it really acts as a restriction on the freedom of the President to act freely - even in an emergency situation.
And you are right about the President being able to propose bills like anyone else. I meant to say that he could not sponsor a bill on the floor on Congress. Sometimes the semantics DO matter.
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well im not like NwaBoy that doesn't do research. I have done research on the internet kept to the news and had a class on the running of president. And I just found that he is a better choice
:x oh, i do research alright. and every time Obama has prevailed. :D
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well im not like NwaBoy that doesn't do research. I have done research on the internet kept to the news and had a class on the running of president. And I just found that he is a better choice
:x oh, i do research alright. and every time Obama has prevailed. :D
OK, you two. I am the proverbial "undecided" voter. Use your research to tell me WHY Obama is the better choice. Give me facts and data. This is your opportunity to "sell" your candidate.
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Well vote for him because im 13. If you don't................................
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Doug, what the (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/forum/censored.gif) are you doing? Talk! :x
i put that smiley in there, not the admins. its such a fun smiley! ;)
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here, just browse his site (http://www.barackobama.com/index.php). it's got loads of good stuff about him. :D
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Obama is a pluss in everything. He is in for eco and new cleaner fuels witch Im all for. and well NwaBoy you finish if you did your research.
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like Vamerica said, he is all for the environment and of course education. If you have kids you will understand how important their education is. Same for all the millions of other children in the US with neglegated educational needs.
Obama has been a leader on educational issues throughout his career. In the Illinois State Senate, Obama was a leader on early childhood education, helping create the state's Early Learning Council. In the U.S. Senate, Obama has been a leader in working to make college more affordable. His very first bill sought to increase the maximum Pell Grant award to $5,100. As a member of the Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions committee, Obama helped pass legislation to achieve that goal in the recent improvements to the Higher Education Act. Obama has also introduced legislation to create Teacher Residency Programs and to increase federal support for summer learning opportunities.
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War Powers allows for 60 days. The problem is that the Constitutionality of the Act is still in question. As long as that question hangs out there, it really acts as a restriction on the freedom of the President to act freely - even in an emergency situation.
And that there is what makes me laught the hardest about the War Powers......
Its almost as old as me, and its still not a settled issue......
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like Vamerica said, he is all for the environment and of course education. If you have kids you will understand how important their education is. Same for all the millions of other children in the US with neglegated educational needs.
Obama has been a leader on educational issues throughout his career. In the Illinois State Senate, Obama was a leader on early childhood education, helping create the state's Early Learning Council. In the U.S. Senate, Obama has been a leader in working to make college more affordable. His very first bill sought to increase the maximum Pell Grant award to $5,100. As a member of the Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions committee, Obama helped pass legislation to achieve that goal in the recent improvements to the Higher Education Act. Obama has also introduced legislation to create Teacher Residency Programs and to increase federal support for summer learning opportunities.
You two do realize that:
A: That website is basically a big marketing ad for him....
B: He is the junior senator from Illinois, and in his first term in the US Senate. So he gets the most meaningless committee appointments. When a Senator 'helps' pass a bill, all that means is that they co-sponsored some bill and voted for it. There is no limit of the number of co-sponsors a bill can have.
C: I live in Illinois. I am more than aware of his less than stellar record in the Illinois State Legislature.
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B. The Office of the President has very little real power, he can propose things, he can send troops out in an emergency situation, but realistically Congress wields the power. But that is the way the founding fathers set it up on purpose.
Your president does have a lot of power in comparison to other countries.
As a parent, McCain would be the only current canidate I would feel right about sending soliders into action. He has the first hand knowledge of what challenges those men and women would face and the outcomes of them.
I just hope he remembers what he saw as a soldier- that will very likely prevent him from invading countries!
I fully believe that China will launch an offensive war within the next 40 years. No communist system has lasted more than 100 years. China's manufacturing economy is growing too quickly and their agriculture suffers because of it. Already at this point they can't feed their current population, and that problem is only going to worsen. The triple effects of shrinking agriculture output, increasing enviromental damage, increasing population is going to force them into some kind of action.
China isn't like all these other communist nations that went down the drain. Actually, I wouldn't call China a communist nation any more. They just changed too many things: You can own stuff, you can travel, they invest into their infrastructure, they attracted investors etc. They
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China isn't like all these other communist nations that went down the drain. Actually, I wouldn't call China a communist nation any more. They just changed too many things: You can own stuff, you can travel, they invest into their infrastructure, they attracted investors etc. They
It doesn't remove the basic fact they can't feed the current population at their current level of output. Or the fact the agriculture output is in decline, and their population is still increasing.
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They'll have to import food (or pay their peasants decent prices)
-so what?
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Washington State Demcratic Caucus today. 97 delegates are up for grabs. (Repblican primary is on the 19th).
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Washington State Demcratic Caucus today. 97 delegates are up for grabs. (Repblican primary is on the 19th).
I'll bet Obama wins. He has been doing very well in the Caucuses...
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... because Clinton is not a male.
(Insulting? This is what the media and those "scholars" are saying.)
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Washington State Demcratic Caucus today. 97 delegates are up for grabs. (Repblican primary is on the 19th).
I'll bet Obama wins. He has been doing very well in the Caucuses...
Yes, he did win. It was expected. (He also won in Nebraska) :roll:
Still, Clinton is in the lead!!!! MWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAMWHAHAHAHAAHA :twisted:
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by 72 whole points :roll:
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... because Clinton is not a male.
(Insulting? This is what the media and those "scholars" are saying.)
I'll bet it has more to do with the fact she is a dangerous Socialist rather than the fact she might wear a skirt.....
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Washington State Demcratic Caucus today. 97 delegates are up for grabs. (Repblican primary is on the 19th).
I'll bet Obama wins. He has been doing very well in the Caucuses...
Yes, he did win. It was expected. (He also won in Nebraska) :roll:
Still, Clinton is in the lead!!!! MWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAMWHAHAHAHAAHA :twisted:
Not a good day for Hilter-ly.... Lost everything there was to lose, 3 states and the Virgin Islands. Her lead is down to 25 delegates.
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Not a good day for Hilter-ly.... Lost everything there was to lose, 3 states and the Virgin Islands. Her lead is down to 25 delegates.
Ok, this from the guy who said there was a reason 13 year olds should not vote...
Secondly, Hitler was not a socialist, he was right wing, just like Bush...
I know that the US is just a semi-democracy. A country where some peoples votes carry more weight than others, meaning that the person who gets the most votes does not necessarily get to be president. A country that has the largest lobby in the world, a lobby that pays billions to get what they want. You can buy war in the US if you just pay enough... How come there were no war in the gulf while Clinton was in office, but as soon as the Republicans came to power they attacked Iraq? While the first attack on WTC happened when Clinton were in office (1 month) it was the events during George seniors administration that led to it, and the second attack was due to George Jrs administration.
And by saying that McCain is the right man to lead your soldiers into war you kind of scare me. Is that that what US precidency is about?
A countrys first priority should be to not go to war. And who is benefitting from war? The weapons industry? the oil industry? the families who lose their loved ones in order to secure income for a select few? It's all about money, not politics. If it was about politics the US would have bombed the crap out of countries like Albania, North Korea and Cuba as they are Communist dictatorships. But why don't they? Cause there is nothing there that they want. Talking abut freeing the iraqui people while people in North Korea get executed for not saving the picture of their leader Kim when there's a house fire. Not even Saddam Hussein did that...
My family has lived in the US for 8 years, and after that in China for 4 years, and I have been to the US many times and I do love that country. Saying that Americans as a whole is ignorant is too much, it's just that the ignorant shines through more in the US than elsewhere. If the same effort to find ignorant people was done in Sweden I'm pretty sure we would look just as stupid as the image we get about Americans.
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Not a good day for Hilter-ly.... Lost everything there was to lose, 3 states and the Virgin Islands. Her lead is down to 25 delegates.
Ok, this from the guy who said there was a reason 13 year olds should not vote...
Secondly, Hitler was not a socialist, he was right wing, just like Bush...
I know that the US is just a semi-democracy. A country where some peoples votes carry more weight than others, meaning that the person who gets the most votes does not necessarily get to be president. A country that has the largest lobby in the world, a lobby that pays billions to get what they want. You can buy war in the US if you just pay enough... How come there were no war in the gulf while Clinton was in office, but as soon as the Republicans came to power they attacked Iraq? While the first attack on WTC happened when Clinton were in office (1 month) it was the events during George seniors administration that led to it, and the second attack was due to George Jrs administration.
And by saying that McCain is the right man to lead your soldiers into war you kind of scare me. Is that that what US precidency is about?
A countrys first priority should be to not go to war. And who is benefitting from war? The weapons industry? the oil industry? the families who lose their loved ones in order to secure income for a select few? It's all about money, not politics. If it was about politics the US would have bombed the crap out of countries like Albania, North Korea and Cuba as they are Communist dictatorships. But why don't they? Cause there is nothing there that they want. Talking abut freeing the iraqui people while people in North Korea get executed for not saving the picture of their leader Kim when there's a house fire. Not even Saddam Hussein did that...
My family has lived in the US for 8 years, and after that in China for 4 years, and I have been to the US many times and I do love that country. Saying that Americans as a whole is ignorant is too much, it's just that the ignorant shines through more in the US than elsewhere. If the same effort to find ignorant people was done in Sweden I'm pretty sure we would look just as stupid as the image we get about Americans.
Okay... It was a BAD joke. It was 3am, I've gotten about 2 hours sleep in two days and it was funny at the time.
But....
Hilter was socialist in his economic policies. He nationalized heavy industry. Bush hasn't....
He started the RAD, a program putting the unemployed to work on public projects. Bush hasn't (Clinton proposed a somewhat similar project when Clinton mk.1 was in office) The closest example in US history was the WPA.
He strictly controlled what companies produced, and a what rate. He introduced social programs that offered cheap travel, entertainment options, medical treatment. All hallmarks of socialism. The fact that he used the economic gains from the changes to build a huge military rather than spend it on more social programs is where the separation occurs.
If you take the McCain comment out of context it could be misconstrued. McCain is a disabled former POW. Like I said he is intimately familiar with the challenges soldiers, sailors, and aviators face. Not all challenges with the military are military in nature. That also applies to the challenges faced by the families and nation. He is the ONLY candidate in the field left that has any military service in his resume. IF it is necessary to deploy the military somewhere, he has the first-hand knowledge and experience needed to balance out what he is being told by his advisers. I have no idea if it will be necessary to deploy the military in any form other than humanitarian aid, but if it is
Comparing Kim Jung Il to Saddam Hussien is a bit humorous...... The US dealt with the insane dictator it put into power, when is China going to deal with the one they put in power?????? The US government was completely responsible for Hussien even gaining power in the first place. Just like China has propped up Jung Il for years.... But lets just leave the Kurds out of any discussion.
So what you said was that Clinton gets a free pass for the first bombing which was at the start of his presidency. BUT, its W. Bush's fault for the murders which were at the start of his.... It doesn't work like that. Realistically, the problems between the Islamic fundamentalists and the western world go back much further than either Bush presidency. The beginnings of the problems can be traced back to 1953 when the western world helped the Iranian Shah remain in power. Not just the US was responsible for the meddling and now enormous problems, but that is part of the responsibilties to be carried when you are the leader. Your nation has a huge target on its back. Attacking buildings in Canada, or Australia simply doesn't have the worldwide political effect that it does attacking ones in the US. The invaders chose the World Trade Centers for ease of attack, it would have been much harder to carry out a successful attack on the White House. While it would have made for a much larger political statement.
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Nazi Party = National Socialist German Workers Party. Hitler and his ilk were self described socialists and as Cornfield pointed out, the description was accurate.
The problem with the whole left-right continuum that everyone likes to try and pigeonhole people to is that it is not a line. It is circular and the further around to the extremes that you get, the more you begin to resemble the other side. At the point were the two ends would meet, you simply end up with the distinction being between a corportist state or a communist state. In either case, the power would be concentrated in a few select individuals and as the saying goes, absolute power corrupts absolutely.
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presidential elections to Nazi Party..... :?
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thats because it is the same thing :lol:
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thats because it is the same thing :lol:
:lol:
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thats because it is the same thing :lol:
History is irrevocably intertwined with politics. If we do not learn where we came from, we ar destined to make the same mistakes again.
As much as citizens of other nations do not want to admit it, the US election cycle has a large effect on them.
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As much as citizens of other nations do not want to admit it, the US election cycle has a large effect on them.
I admit it has a large effect on us, and I really can't see why anyone would say it didn't. I'm just not sure I like all aspects of it, that's all.
I think the US should focus on their internal problems before going out to act world police.
Besides, Al Qaeda are amateurs compared to yourself when it comes to killing Americans:
400.000 Americans are killed each year from tobacco
40.000 Americans are killed in traffic every year
30.000 Americans are killed by guns
So maybe it's time for a war on the tobacco industry, car industry, and god forbid, the gun industry ;)
BUT, the US military are doing a great job in many locations of the world, I just wish they would let the UN govern what gets done where and how.
OK, it's not perfect, spending a year in Yugoslavia 94-95 made that very clear to me, but it's better than a gun crazy world sheriff.
The US military budget is 590 BILLION dollars, that is $2000 per american...
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As much as citizens of other nations do not want to admit it, the US election cycle has a large effect on them.
I admit it has a large effect on us, and I really can't see why anyone would say it didn't. I'm just not sure I like all aspects of it, that's all.
I think the US should focus on their internal problems before going out to act world police.
Besides, Al Qaeda are amateurs compared to yourself when it comes to killing Americans:
400.000 Americans are killed each year from tobacco
40.000 Americans are killed in traffic every year
30.000 Americans are killed by guns
So maybe it's time for a war on the tobacco industry, car industry, and god forbid, the gun industry ;)
BUT, the US military are doing a great job in many locations of the world, I just wish they would let the UN govern what gets done where and how.
OK, it's not perfect, spending a year in Yugoslavia 94-95 made that very clear to me, but it's better than a gun crazy world sheriff.
The US military budget is 590 BILLION dollars, that is $2000 per american...
that post remined me of "Thank you for Smoking"
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GOGO HILLARY CLINTON
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A german internet provider asks its members who they would elect (Clinton, Obama or McCain). So far Obama is ahead with 64%. I doubt that he will win the elections with such a high result but I still think he will make it 8)
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GOGO HILLARY CLINTON
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!