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Airline Mogul => General Chat => Topic started by: pocketbookbrando on January 08, 2008, 06:18:24 am

Title: Help figuring out a competitor...
Post by: pocketbookbrando on January 08, 2008, 06:18:24 am

I'm trying to figure out why this guy..

http://www.airlinemogul.com/airlinemogul/view_airline.php?id=4798

Is more profitable than I am on a DOP basis.  I have roughly the same size business, but his DOP is much higher.  I also looked on the map and he seems to be flying some routes (Mexico City to Europe) that are beyond the range of his aircraft.  

Also, he is listed as flying to Edinburg, Scotland, but when I look at that gate, his airline is not listed as an airline that goes to that airport.  What's up with that?

Any ideas on what he might be doing to be more profitable than similar competitors?  Inputs appreciated.

Title: Help figuring out a competitor...
Post by: Jps on January 08, 2008, 06:49:26 am

He has way more routes than you with more profitable aircraft such as the F28

And at Edinburgh, he is flying to Istanbul Atatürk, Tripoli, Boston and Montreal.

His airline code is FRE, so type that at the airport and you'll see.

Title: Help figuring out a competitor...
Post by: Scandalian Airlines on January 08, 2008, 07:22:02 am

But he does not have long range aircraft except for 1 DC-7? And all others are 4000 miles or less. Looks weird, but probably is OK, it's hard to judge where those routes are going. And he is not running MEX-Europe, like Jps said, go in and search his airline code and you will see.

Title: Help figuring out a competitor...
Post by: pocketbookbrando on January 08, 2008, 12:55:13 pm

I look up his airline code, but I have no way of knowing exactly what routes he is running.  Am I missing something?

Title: Help figuring out a competitor...
Post by: ALFC on January 08, 2008, 12:56:48 pm

Quote from: "pocketbookbrando"

I look up his airline code, but I have no way of knowing exactly what routes he is running.  Am I missing something?

yes, go to his hubs, you will find all the routes served from there

Title: Help figuring out a competitor...
Post by: Scandalian Airlines on January 08, 2008, 01:42:28 pm

Quote from: "ALFC"

yes, go to his hubs, you will find all the routes served from there

True, but that will not show the large number of alliance flights he is doing, for that you have to look in his profile, and then view all "odd" airports.

Title: Re: Help figuring out a competitor...
Post by: 500 miles at a time on January 08, 2008, 02:35:38 pm

Quote from: "pocketbookbrando"

I'm trying to figure out why this guy..

Be afraid...be very afraid  :lol:

Title: Help figuring out a competitor...
Post by: myefre on January 08, 2008, 03:25:28 pm

Quote from: "pocketbookbrando"

I look up his airline code, but I have no way of knowing exactly what routes he is running.  Am I missing something?

Maybe  :wink:

Title: Help figuring out a competitor...
Post by: Blue Sky Mine on January 08, 2008, 04:16:23 pm

He's probably just doing alliance routes... that way he could have routes on 5 continents with a fleet of AN2's

Title: Help figuring out a competitor...
Post by: dktc on January 08, 2008, 05:10:20 pm

To give you some closure, yes... alliance routes :wink:
(ask myefre for more details :P )

Title: Help figuring out a competitor...
Post by: sl1ppy on January 08, 2008, 07:33:00 pm

His EDI flights are from my base there (same alliance).