Airline Mogul Forum
Non-Airline Mogul => General Chat => Topic started by: nwadeltaboy on December 26, 2007, 06:50:23 am
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anybody here a mass transit fan like me?
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I am!
Well kind of...
and did you make the last subway map?
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Well, here in Texas I have to say that mass transit is not very well utilized. Everyone's gotta drive their car everywhere. You can check out Dallas' transit system at www.dart.org and see how little we have for an area of millions of people.
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no, i didn't make it. :(
i did make one of the New Jersey PATH, once. :D
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bump
san diego's the worst. they have an extremely extensive tram system, buses, commuter rail -- and out of all that, the only thing that goes to the airport is a bus -- one bus route, comes every 15 minutes :roll:
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Take a look at Seattle's and you'll see why the Seattle Metro Area is in the top 3 traffic prone areas of the U.S.
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bleck--yeah, i can see that. :(
i just got this book for christmas that has every transit map in the world in it. yep, every one -- even Seattle's. :o
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Seattle has mass transit! :shock: :o :P
Basically trafic jammed I-5 and I-90.... then Highway 520..... yuck.....
Of course you have the *fruit*, but that only runs 11 blocks of light rail in downtown... Buses are ok, but there only good in the immediate area. (light rail to the airport will open in 2009, but that isn't going to help very much...)
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im looking it up...ooh, my fault, it's a planned light rail line. :|
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You see. I know about Seattle. It opens in late 2009.
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yah, i didn't read deep enough. :oops:
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I think its October. SEA-TAC's new runway is schudeled for opening in November of 2008.
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you know, ive always wondered: was the city Seatac named after the airport?
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Seattle-Tacoma...... Shortend to Sea-Tac and it is now the community around Seattle-Tacoma International Airport.
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so...which came first, the name of the city Sea Tac or the name of the airport Sea Tac?
don't challenge my map ability, i have about 1 US atlases at my house. :P
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Seattle-Tacoma Airport came first... Dont challenge my geo skills. Good night! :)
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thank you! you finally answered my question. and you finally shut up! :twisted:
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why does it seem so quiet here without Seattle? :P
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Oooh Mass transit :D
Where do I start with HK? Let's see...
MTR (Rail & Subway)
Used to be two rail companies in HK, the Mass Transit Railway (MTR) and the Kowloon-Canton Railway (KCR) - the two merged, keeping the English MTR name. There are currently 7 metro and 3 regional rail lines:
- Island Line, serving the north part of Hong Kong Island
- Tsuen Wan Line, serving the west part of Kowloon and ends with Tsuen Wan station
- Kwun Tong Line, serving the rest of the Kowloon peninsula
- Tseung Kwan O Line, going from North Point station through the eastern harbour crossing into the TKO new town
- Tung Chung Line, shares Airport Express fast rail, stopping in Central (HK Station), west Kowloon, Tsing Yi island and across Lantau
- Airport Express, a high-speed rail link from Hong Kong Station, Kowloon, and Tsing Yi (expensive.)
- Disneyland Resort Line: the name says it all. 2 stops. Sunny Bay (connects with Tung Chung Line) and Disneyland.
- East Rail, regional rail line going from the hip new downtown area Tsim Sha Tsui (southernmost part of the Kowloon Peninsula) all the way to Shenzhen and beyond (oh, and also covers the racetrack on racing days :D)
- West Rail, a second regional rail line covering the western part of Hong Kong, especially the new towns in the northwest parts of the New Territories.
- Ma On Shan Extension, a line covering the eastern part of Sha Tin (west of Ma On Shan but east of the Sha Tin river)
Current route map ©2007 MTR Corp.
(http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/2458/mtrroutemapxn6.jpg)
Some cool MTR pictures (Source: Wikipedia)
Tung Chung Station
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How we pay: either by ticket (slightly more expensive per trip) or Octopus Card (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octopus_card)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/36/Central_MTR_Octopus_gate.jpg/450px-Central_MTR_Octopus_gate.jpg)
I'll be back with buses ;) Actually, Pacific would probably know more regarding taht...
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im looking up hong kong in my book right now...yep, it's got a pretty colorful history. :)
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in Minneapolis about 46% of the commuters to downtown use mass transit (all buses except for a single light rail line)
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I hate the new MTR and prefer KCR and the old MTR.
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Well, here in Texas I have to say that mass transit is not very well utilized. Everyone's gotta drive their car everywhere. You can check out Dallas' transit system at www.dart.org and see how little we have for an area of millions of people.
Just like the DART in Dublin! (Dublin area rapid transit) :P
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Oh Mass Transit in Hong Kong is amazing. I like the new MTR, KCR isn't much of a trip, we personally only used it to Shenzhen and then drove straight out to Shunde. It's great having a bunch of big white guys as we'll just stand in a circle on the MTR during rush hour and the foot shorter Chinese population don't dare to push into the center. So we're pretty much left well alone and not cramped up. Although the buses can be extremely convenient if you know where you're going. We found them a lot faster and more exciting(few single decked buses and coming inches from street rails as they turned corners, actually had two 215X's racing once as the second bus had caught up to the first buses routes so they drove down the highway on a lane each trying to be first to reach the bus stop). Including the time my brother was standing at door number one and the bus was speeding and suddenly braked, bus driver looks to his left and all he sees is a horizontal pair of feet next to his head with a 110kg guy holding onto a bar 4 foot in the air. Beats New Zealand public transport anyday(especially *sigh* Palmerston North) we have about five buses that run around an 80,000 population city every half an hour or so. No trains or the rest.
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Ohhh, but I did forget about Seattle excellent Ferry service.... Its really good and its probably the largest way for people that live in little ghost town to our east to come to Seattle. :)
(well now its all bad because the some ferries are old and falling apart)
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All we need now is a Mass Transit Mogul. :)
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Oh My God!
I love the MTR!!
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All we need now is a Mass Transit Mogul. :)
Finish the railroad one first :lol: Actually, you could combine them :lol:
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With the problems on AM I am getting more and more ideas about Iarnród Mogal, I might even code something before I start studying for exams next week! :shock:
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:? ermmm. ok 8)
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I love KCR!
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I love KCR!
But I thought they merged with the MTR...
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I love KCR!
But I thought they merged with the MTR...
Yes.
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Whoever designed the KCR stock refurbishment should be shot. The seats are not sculpted like the MTR trains which makes it extremely unpleasant to sit on.
Hong Kong MTR:
One of the most reliable, clean and efficient metro systems in the world.
Cleanliness and modernity however comes with a lack of character. This wouldn't matter for ordinary people but the MTR is rather boring from a transport enthusiast's point of view due to the homogenous interior.
Japan Railways East:
My fav rail system is actually JR East in Tokyo! It has a lot of track mileage and the map below only becomes readable at 3300x wide!
(http://greggman.com/japan/tokyo-trains/jr-east-map.gif)
There is a large variety of rolling stock and interiors although the new stock has been using standardised fittings for the last 15 years. JR is immaculately clean and always runs on time (unless someone jumps into a train). Although I rate the MTR higher objectively (station facilities, modern looks and such), I have a liking for JR East as it is a really fun system for the enthusiast. The railtrack is in mint condition, allowing standard width trains on narrow gauge go around turns at stupidly fast speeds.
(http://baike.baidu.com/pic/44/11878825314726799.jpg)
A JR East E231 electric train on the Yamanote line. This train maintains a high rate of acceleration up to 80km/h and beyond.
Hong Kong busses:
Hong Kong is a bus spotter's paradise with plenty of variety and density of busses. The bus companies like to mess around with the chassis/bodywork/engine/transmission combinations which adds even more variety. These days, the bus density in Hong Kong's too high for the amount of roads we have, thus creating a lot of bus-jams. Still this is my fav bus system as it is relatively clean and the drivers look more focussed than those in the UK in general.
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Mass transit Mogul already exists sorta .... it is called simutrans ....
Waerth
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Mass transit Mogul already exists sorta .... it is called simutrans ....
Waerth
But as an online browser game.
I tried Simutrans, didn't particularly like it.
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Mass transit Mogul already exists sorta .... it is called simutrans ....
Waerth
But as an online browser game.
I tried Simutrans, didn't particularly like it.
If you can make such a game a browser game I will kiss the ground you walk on. I can understand that Simutrans is not everybody's taste. But I personally like it. But like all the other online management games it suffers from the it is to easy to make money syndrome. It is very difficult to even things out it seems.
Waerth