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Airline Mogul => Bugs => Topic started by: Vamerica on December 22, 2007, 10:20:36 pm

Title: Edit Route Bug
Post by: Vamerica on December 22, 2007, 10:20:36 pm
when I went to change the route to have more flights and pushed the update information button it said 0%. So I lowered it and lowered it till I got to 1 dollar and it still says 0% load factor.

Subject changed by StephenM
Title: Edit Route Bug
Post by: StephenM on December 22, 2007, 10:21:16 pm
That one I have no obvious answer to, I'll take a look but I am unsure where the problem is.
Title: Edit Route Bug
Post by: Seattle on December 22, 2007, 10:22:29 pm
What did you guys do!? :lol:
Title: Edit Route Bug
Post by: nwadeltaboy on December 22, 2007, 10:25:19 pm
Post removed by StephenM - Its a new bug
Title: Edit Route Bug
Post by: StephenM on December 22, 2007, 10:25:38 pm
I didn't do anything. I was wrapped up in my bed last night when this part of the game was being worked on...
Title: Edit Route Bug
Post by: Seattle on December 22, 2007, 10:27:00 pm
Quote from: "nwaboy"
Post removed by StephenM - Its a new bug


wrong :lol: This is completly different bug and I just did a trial and I had the same problem
Title: Edit Route Bug
Post by: Vamerica on December 22, 2007, 10:27:12 pm
nwaboy, this is a different bug
Title: Edit Route Bug
Post by: nwadeltaboy on December 22, 2007, 10:28:00 pm
oh yeah, i just came across this one...:oops:
Title: Edit Route Bug
Post by: Seattle on December 22, 2007, 10:29:06 pm
So, how many routes do you have? :P
Title: Edit Route Bug
Post by: nwadeltaboy on December 22, 2007, 10:30:21 pm
two...both at 100% loadfactor...i was able to do something to overcome the bug on one route, but i forget what i did :oops: :roll:
Title: Edit Route Bug
Post by: Vamerica on December 22, 2007, 10:30:21 pm
I have 4, but when I went to change something in my Reno route it went to 0% load
Title: Edit Route Bug
Post by: 747-300 on December 22, 2007, 10:49:45 pm
i've not did anything on the GIG-CGH route and my load decreased to 0 :(

and i can't edit the route too
Title: Edit Route Bug
Post by: Vamerica on December 22, 2007, 10:50:24 pm
its on all routes
Title: Edit Route Bug
Post by: killian320 on December 22, 2007, 10:51:17 pm
Bugs are being examined + possibly fixed as you type.... please bear in mind the pressure the coder(s) is/are under.
Title: Edit Route Bug
Post by: empedocles on December 22, 2007, 10:52:15 pm
Happening to me, too.

Sequence of events:

The first two routes I created were 0.5s. For every route created thereafter, I could no longer create 0.5 routes, all of the frequencies are whole numbers (1,2,3, etc.).

{Side note: have you restricted the number of 0.5s per plane?}

I them went back into one of the 0.5s to change it to a 1, and the zero load at any fare occurred. I now can't edit any of my routes, as I get a zero load on all of 'em.

Thank you.

Thanatos Air, 7641
Title: Edit Route Bug
Post by: nwadeltaboy on December 22, 2007, 10:52:59 pm
for anybody that's been here awhile...has the game been this buggy every reset?
Title: Edit Route Bug
Post by: Vamerica on December 22, 2007, 10:54:17 pm
not this bad
Title: Edit Route Bug
Post by: nwadeltaboy on December 22, 2007, 10:55:54 pm
must be the fact that we just jumped 15 years...:(
Title: Edit Route Bug
Post by: nwadeltaboy on December 22, 2007, 10:56:12 pm


Edit by killian320.. no it hasn't sorry :)
Title: Edit Route Bug
Post by: Vamerica on December 22, 2007, 10:56:58 pm
no it hasn't
Title: Edit Route Bug
Post by: killian320 on December 22, 2007, 10:57:26 pm
Wrong post.. sorry lads... alliance bug fixed :D
Title: Edit Route Bug
Post by: Vamerica on December 22, 2007, 10:58:26 pm
ya the alliance was not this
Title: Edit Route Bug
Post by: Pacific on December 22, 2007, 10:59:38 pm
It's a race against time!

*dut. duut. dut. duut.* (24 timer sound)

Stephen has 22 hours to counter this terrorist threat.  Will he make it?  Will he not make it?  Oh the suspense! :D
Title: Edit Route Bug
Post by: Vamerica on December 22, 2007, 11:00:40 pm
stay tone to find out
Title: Edit Route Bug
Post by: 747-300 on December 22, 2007, 11:04:13 pm
why you don't do like the Aviosim, don't have load damaged by competition?  :D
Title: Edit Route Bug
Post by: Seattle on December 22, 2007, 11:10:07 pm
:arrow: Its buggy because the first part of multiworlds had been installed... I think
Title: Edit Route Bug
Post by: killian320 on December 22, 2007, 11:13:02 pm
Quote from: "Seattle"
:arrow: Its buggy because the first part of multiworlds had been installed... I think


The buginess... dare i say.... has nothing to do with multiworlds ;) Multiworlds is not released til mid January.
Title: Edit Route Bug
Post by: StephenM on December 22, 2007, 11:20:49 pm
Quote from: "Seattle"
:arrow: Its buggy because the first part of multiworlds had been installed... I think


First part of multiworlds = Login, Register, Forgot Password, Activate, Admin (Change password part), various admin files and anywhere that uses your email address.

This problem is edit route...

I think its different. Atleast I hope it is anyway.
Title: Edit Route Bug
Post by: DAK on December 22, 2007, 11:34:05 pm
On some routes, I can't get 0.5; 1,2,3 only.... i now have gates, I can't service because I have to fly 1.0's
Title: Edit Route Bug
Post by: nwadeltaboy on December 22, 2007, 11:36:49 pm
Quote from: "DAK"
On some routes, I can't get 0.5; 1,2,3 only.... i now have gates, I can't service because I have to fly 1.0's

that's really weird. :?
Title: Edit Route Bug
Post by: killian320 on December 22, 2007, 11:39:06 pm
Quote from: "DAK"
On some routes, I can't get 0.5; 1,2,3 only.... i now have gates, I can't service because I have to fly 1.0's


Havn't heard of that one before... I'm sure it will eventually be fixed  :roll:
Title: Edit Route Bug
Post by: DAK on December 22, 2007, 11:40:58 pm
Got another one: have 0%LF no matter what price!!!!
Title: Edit Route Bug
Post by: Vamerica on December 22, 2007, 11:41:49 pm
um, that is what we have been talking about this hole time.
Title: Edit Route Bug
Post by: killian320 on December 22, 2007, 11:41:55 pm
Quote from: "DAK"
Got another one: have 0%LF no matter what price!!!!


Have you even read the thread that you posted in? Check the main post ;)
Title: Edit Route Bug
Post by: nwadeltaboy on December 22, 2007, 11:42:08 pm
that's the one this thread is all about :P

edit by killian320 This is a thread, not a forum. A forum is a foundation of threads ;)
Title: Edit Route Bug
Post by: empedocles on December 22, 2007, 11:42:44 pm
So the summary thus far:

1. Edit Route = Zero load factor
2. Competition = Zero load factor
Title: Edit Route Bug
Post by: nwadeltaboy on December 22, 2007, 11:42:46 pm
wow, three people posted at the exact same time.  What a strong reaction! :lol:
Title: Edit Route Bug
Post by: Japanair on December 22, 2007, 11:44:59 pm
It's happening to me too.
I'm negative in cash and I'm desperate for profit!
Title: Edit Route Bug
Post by: StephenM on December 22, 2007, 11:45:42 pm
I think I'm onto something. After the number 2 there should a target ticket price, see whats currently coming out:

Quote
2: NAN


I'll see if I can localise the issue.
Title: Edit Route Bug
Post by: nwadeltaboy on December 22, 2007, 11:46:42 pm
i think the coders wrote it directly into the code that no more than 2 .5 frequencies can be made, to make sure nobody cheats. :D
Title: Edit Route Bug
Post by: DAK on December 22, 2007, 11:47:24 pm
Thanks, am 0% LF between the two biggest airports in EU as soon as the competition showed!!!! :!:
Title: Edit Route Bug
Post by: StephenM on December 22, 2007, 11:51:02 pm
Quote from: "DAK"
Thanks, am 0% LF between the two biggest airports in EU as soon as the competition showed!!!! :!:


Just for your information. It is a bug.
Title: Edit Route Bug
Post by: Seattle on December 22, 2007, 11:51:31 pm
To many bugs..... :shock:
Title: Edit Route Bug
Post by: 747-300 on December 22, 2007, 11:52:28 pm
i only found one bug, the edit route bug  :roll:
Title: Edit Route Bug
Post by: Vamerica on December 22, 2007, 11:54:04 pm
There was another one at the very beginning that was fixed
Title: Edit Route Bug
Post by: 747-300 on December 22, 2007, 11:56:00 pm
i've edited GIG-CNF and this appeared:

1: 1

-22 .
2a: NAN - 0.68023947633243 . 0.68023947633243 . 1 . 625.99019201819 . 1.0033333333333 . 1.006 . NAN
2: NAN
1: 1

-22 .
2a: NAN - 0.68023947633243 . 0.68023947633243 . 1 . 625.99019201819 . 1.0033333333333 . 1.006 . NAN
2: NAN
Title: Edit Route Bug
Post by: Seattle on December 22, 2007, 11:58:40 pm
:shock: .....
Title: Edit Route Bug
Post by: StephenM on December 23, 2007, 12:05:26 am
Yeah, forgot to do an admin check around it... I'll make it all nice again in a minute ;)
Title: Edit Route Bug
Post by: 747-300 on December 23, 2007, 12:07:30 am
i think that you are near from the bug.....

stephen, a little bit off-topic, the day is changing a little bit delayed :roll: something about 15 minutes :roll:
Title: Edit Route Bug
Post by: StephenM on December 23, 2007, 12:15:31 am
Is it working now?
Title: Edit Route Bug
Post by: DAK on December 23, 2007, 12:17:22 am
Route bug seems to be fixed, got LF now with competition. How come I am still forced on some routes to 1.0 only?
Title: Edit Route Bug
Post by: StephenM on December 23, 2007, 12:18:22 am
Sorry, I dont fully understand. The route bug is fixed? So where are you putting 1.0 and is that a fare or a frequency?
Title: Edit Route Bug
Post by: DAK on December 23, 2007, 12:19:50 am
Sorry, typing too quick, on some routes I cannot select a frequency less then 1.0
Title: Edit Route Bug
Post by: 747-300 on December 23, 2007, 12:21:36 am
thanks man, the routes are allright now \o
Title: Edit Route Bug
Post by: StephenM on December 23, 2007, 12:23:23 am
Quote from: "DAK"
Sorry, typing too quick, on some routes I cannot select a frequency less then 1.0


As bad as it sounds but I guess Air Elbonia installed a feature to prevent too many one-way routes (More than one is physically impossible in real life from one base anyway). Its been insane for us on account of staff members going on Holiday, very very hard to get online at the right times. :(
Title: Edit Route Bug
Post by: empedocles on December 23, 2007, 12:23:30 am
Quote from: "DAK"
Sorry, typing too quick, on some routes I cannot select a frequency less then 1.0


I asked about that, too. (http://www.stephenm.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3778)

----

Hurrah, load factors seem to be fixed! Thank you!   :D
Title: Edit Route Bug
Post by: empedocles on December 23, 2007, 12:25:28 am
Quote from: "StephenM"
Quote from: "DAK"
Sorry, typing too quick, on some routes I cannot select a frequency less then 1.0


As bad as it sounds but I guess Air Elbonia installed a feature to prevent too many one-way routes (More than one is physically impossible in real life from one base anyway). Its been insane for us on account of staff members going on Holiday, very very hard to get online at the right times. :(


Actually, two 1-ways work IRL. Start XXX-YYY, fly round trips between YYY-wherever, then end the day YYY-ZZZ. Next day, reverse.
Title: Edit Route Bug
Post by: StephenM on December 23, 2007, 12:26:29 am
I have been working 2 hours solid on this bug. Time for a break. If there are any issues (Create route causing issues etc) reply here. I want to go to bed soon. :)
Title: Edit Route Bug
Post by: BigDerriAir[FT] on December 23, 2007, 02:55:13 am
still happening to me. MTY-MEX... create route, and within a few minutes goes from 99% to zero with nothing else changing. I've logged out and back in, deleted the route and recreated...

[EDIT] NOW it's ok.
Title: Edit Route Bug
Post by: myefre on December 23, 2007, 04:50:36 am
Quote from: "StephenM"
Is it working now?


Nope  :(
Title: Edit Route Bug
Post by: Vamerica on December 23, 2007, 04:54:24 am
well it did for be a long time ago.
Title: Edit Route Bug
Post by: myefre on December 23, 2007, 05:07:23 am
Someone added a route on one of my routes. My LF went to 0%. I went to edit the route. I did not change the price. I simply hit Update and the LF went back to 100%.
Title: Edit Route Bug
Post by: Pacific on December 23, 2007, 05:45:35 am
Quote from: "myefre"
Someone added a route on one of my routes. My LF went to 0%. I went to edit the route. I did not change the price. I simply hit Update and the LF went back to 100%.

Same here.  I just told Air Elbonia to sort it!
Title: Edit Route Bug
Post by: Air Elbonia on December 23, 2007, 06:17:43 am
-still sorting the competition part of the buggery...- god i thought i tested this out better between ages.

anyways.

a quick statement on .5's.

the one-way route logic is smarter then it once was.  When before it saw all routes as being valid for one-way or round trip flights... now it's smart enough to realize that if either end already has 2 one-way flights for that plane, it can't do a third one.  This is NOT perfect logic. however, it is significantly BETTER logic.  It allows for one-way chains [a->b->c->d] while minimizing the possibility that the airplane will magically reappear at the origin, like in the case of [A->b. A->c. A->d].  This, in no way, affects the present game rules regarding one-way flights.


edit: i think i got the competition->0 bug.  let me know if it's not fixed.
Title: Edit Route Bug
Post by: MrOrange on December 23, 2007, 09:06:00 am
Quote from: "empedocles"

{Side note: have you restricted the number of 0.5s per plane?}

Yes, I think it has been reduced to 2 per plane max.
Title: Edit Route Bug
Post by: killian320 on December 23, 2007, 12:34:00 pm
Bug Fixed :D Locked.