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Title: What year do you want the next round to be?
Post by: Pacific on December 17, 2007, 07:22:56 pm: With the game being pretty gridlocked right now, I am already thinking of the next reset which seems to be ages away.

But anyway, if the game were to reset a week, what era would you want the next round to start?

Off the top of my head, typical aircraft available are:

1930s:
Regionals: Ford Trimotor
Longhaul: The Pan Am Clippers?

1960s:
Regionals: Comet/727/Tu134/BAC1-11
Longhauls: B707/DC-8/VC-10/IL-62
Max Range: VC-10, 5,850miles/9,360km

1970s:
Regionals: DC-9/B737/Fokker
Longhauls: B747/DC-10/L-1011
Max Range: 747SP 6,650nm/7,650miles/12,325km
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Post by: MrOrange on December 17, 2007, 07:24:52 pm: I started in the 1970's, IIRC, so I'd love to see the 1960's. Going back to 1930 would only give us the same problems we have now: Lots of short routes because planes can't fly as far, causing massive flooding of gates/airports/routes etc.
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Post by: Hampo on December 17, 2007, 07:28:35 pm: 60's all the way!
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Post by: Pilgrim on December 17, 2007, 07:53:06 pm: this round ends 1960... so 1960!

60s are cool anyways, long haul with 707/720, DC8, CV880/990, VC10... and not a widebody to be seen (the 747 entered service in 1970 really...). Plus all the new short-medium haul jets: BAC-111, Caravelle, DC-9, 727, 737, F.28, Tu-124/134... nummy! :wink:
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Post by: NIKO on December 17, 2007, 09:06:48 pm: I would rather start in the 30's and finish in the 21st century, would be awsome and airlines would have a good history but since we are half way threw the 50's i would say the 60's aswel.
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Post by: MrOrange on December 17, 2007, 09:07:55 pm: Until we have multiworlds out, we'll probably reset every 10 years, so there's no way yet (!) you can run a game from 1930 all the way to 2009.
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Post by: Pacific on December 17, 2007, 09:16:38 pm: AirlineMogul became unplayable for most after 3 or 4 game years due to overexpansion. Large airlines become impossible to administer while the small airlines take the brunt of €1 price wars and the general lack of gates in the market. Competition is realistic but excessive competition reduces the "playability" of the game.
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Post by: NIKO on December 17, 2007, 09:16:56 pm: 1930-2009 would be awsome!!!! Wonder how long that would take?, Still i would be up for it :D
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Post by: MrOrange on December 17, 2007, 09:20:04 pm: 960 days.
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Post by: Pacific on December 17, 2007, 09:21:33 pm: It's amusing surfing OpenTTD servers online, and how the insanely long rounds have the maximum company count allowed, but no one running them.
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Post by: NIKO on December 17, 2007, 09:30:44 pm: 960 days!!!

That is trulley amaizing :D
saves us starting up again :D
i vote for 1930's-2009!!!!! all the way :D
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Post by: MrOrange on December 17, 2007, 09:39:32 pm: You can't until multiworlds are working OK, and even then I'm not sure it will work instantly.
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Post by: Air Elbonia on December 17, 2007, 09:57:50 pm: Quote from: "MrOrange"
Until we have multiworlds out, we'll probably reset every 10 years, so there's no way yet (!) you can run a game from 1930 all the way to 2009.

This next reset will be a 5 year round, and hopefully the economy will have been tamed enough [though i somewhat doubt it will] that it won't get unplayable quite as fast

Oh and for the people excited for the thought of 1930-2009... technically we have aircraft in the database from 1920-2009 [however the last 2 years would be cut off due to the lack of fuel data for them at the moment]. It would take 1,068 days to complete, or 2.92 years.
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Post by: MrOrange on December 17, 2007, 10:04:49 pm: By the time we reach 2009 in-game, the data will be available I guess :lol:
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Post by: NIKO on December 17, 2007, 10:05:27 pm: I have what i call an aircraft bible :P sure it has fuel data would be willing to help on that tho.
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Post by: MrOrange on December 17, 2007, 10:06:22 pm: What's the bible's title? Chances are it's already been used :lol:
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Post by: 747-300 on December 17, 2007, 10:11:35 pm: the most near from the actual days, PLEASE

:roll:
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Post by: NIKO on December 17, 2007, 10:12:05 pm: Aircraft worldwide or something but i can always get information of airline 6 wich has aload of information from fuel to max takeoff weight. :)
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Post by: echoney on December 17, 2007, 10:50:27 pm: 1970!!!!!!!!
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Post by: airplane2011@msn.com on December 17, 2007, 10:56:26 pm: Definitely the 1970's!!!! Love those DC-9's and 737's!
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Post by: DAK on December 17, 2007, 11:05:49 pm: Has to be the 60's, we can't skip a decade.... natural progression (good ole Darwin)
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Post by: NIKO on December 17, 2007, 11:07:39 pm: But we are skipping the remaining 5 years of the 50's :(
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Post by: sla31 on December 17, 2007, 11:08:40 pm: I say 1970. The closer to present day the better.
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Post by: KelvinatorNL on December 17, 2007, 11:21:56 pm: the seventies would be great.
or why not the eighties?
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Post by: gizgiz on December 18, 2007, 01:08:52 am: From my constantly sentimental point of view:

AM started almost exactly two years ago on January 1, 1970. It should hence start, with a major upgrade (critical stepping into multiworld), on January 1, 1970.

:)
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Post by: empedocles on December 18, 2007, 01:28:00 am: I want to finish out the 50s.
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Post by: BigDerriAir[FT] on December 18, 2007, 01:47:32 am: I'd like to finish out the '50s as well. I started rather late but am enjoying the battle. :D
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Post by: Silvagni on December 18, 2007, 02:02:39 am: Quote from: "empedocles"
I want to finish out the 50s.

Same here!

But the fact is a reset will happen, i'd rather miss 5 years than 15 years.
The 60's would be a good starting point.
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Post by: empedocles on December 18, 2007, 02:15:09 am: Quote from: "Silvagni"
Quote from: "empedocles"
I want to finish out the 50s.

Same here!

But the fact is a reset will happen, i'd rather miss 5 years than 15 years.
The 60's would be a good starting point.

I'm just saying if we are getting 5 years after the reset, why not start in '55?
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Post by: travismb99 on December 18, 2007, 02:28:29 am: Why skip over the entire 1960s? It's an amazing era - 707s, 727s, 737s, BAC-111s, Caravelles, DC-8/9s, Electras, F27/28s... the list goes on.
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Post by: travismb99 on December 18, 2007, 02:30:31 am: Quote from: "airplane2011@msn.com"
Definitely the 1970's!!!! Love those DC-9's and 737's!

You know, DC-9s and 737s are 1960s aircraft, right?
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Post by: Coll_alliance on December 18, 2007, 02:39:09 am: so at 1960 we loose all gates and aircraft that we have and we start off again?
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Post by: Pacific on December 18, 2007, 04:17:07 am: Quote from: "travismb99"
Quote from: "airplane2011@msn.com"
Definitely the 1970's!!!! Love those DC-9's and 737's!

You know, DC-9s and 737s are 1960s aircraft, right?

Very late 1960s aircraft, meaning we basically won't get them in a 1960-1965 round.

@ Coll Alliance

Yes, resets have to happen at some point.
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Post by: jameswyhk on December 18, 2007, 05:24:16 am: 1970s! I wonder why did we came to 1950s.
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Post by: pseudoswede on December 18, 2007, 07:32:31 am: A short, 5-year round (1955-1959) would help shake out the new code and give admins a better idea on how their changes have worked. Then we could start up in 1960.

I was one that thought I would hate the 50's round, but I've gotten to enjoy it immensely.
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Post by: BigDerriAir[FT] on December 18, 2007, 07:55:40 am: Heck, I even started smoking Lucky Strikes and wearing Brylcreem.
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Post by: Jps on December 18, 2007, 10:10:42 am: Please don't skip 1960. Such an important date!

Dont let the brokers suffer in 1970! Let them take a rest 8)

Edit: The next round won't be so great because of this whole multi worlds thing. So why make the 70's bad. Just make the 60's... and... you'll enjoy the 70's!
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Post by: gagahput3ra on December 18, 2007, 12:17:57 pm: 70's for sure!

I will skip 60's because of the AIDS :P
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Post by: BigDerriAir[FT] on December 18, 2007, 02:59:36 pm: Oooh... one good thing about the '70s. CONCORDE!
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Post by: Banana Bomb on December 18, 2007, 07:15:23 pm: I think we should move on to the 1960s next. I want to fly the 707s and 727-100s! But I will be happy either way as the L1011 and 747 is available in the 70s.
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Post by: Azul on December 18, 2007, 08:54:40 pm: The game with a reset in 5 or 10 years is very boring, much players only obtain sucess in your airline after 5, 10, 15 years... many people make login each 1 day, each 2 days to 2 days, these people have a difficulty to express expansion, like a "gamers" that living in Mogul 24 hours per day.

The round is very good if like 1970 to 2000... after 2000 to 2030... like this.
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Post by: nwadeltaboy on December 18, 2007, 10:19:32 pm: 747's and concordes ( :?: ) came out in the 70's.

(http://www.portalplanetasedna.com.ar/archivos_varios/hippie.jpg)
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Post by: BigDerriAir[FT] on December 18, 2007, 10:32:58 pm: Quote from: "Banana Bomb"
I think we should move on to the 1960s next. I want to fly the 707s and 727-100s! But I will be happy either way as the L1011 and 747 is available in the 70s.

You still CAN fly 707s (and 720s) and 727-100s. What do you think the backbone of many airlines were?? The props didn't even leave some fleets until the mid '70s! Heck, American didn't even retire THEIR 727s until April 2002 although 707s left US fleets by the early '80s.
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Post by: NIKO on December 18, 2007, 11:05:26 pm: Quote from: "Azul"
The game with a reset in 5 or 10 years is very boring, much players only obtain sucess in your airline after 5, 10, 15 years... many people make login each 1 day, each 2 days to 2 days, these people have a difficulty to express expansion, like a "gamers" that living in Mogul 24 hours per day.

The round is very good if like 1970 to 2000... after 2000 to 2030... like this.

Yes i agree with you!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D
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Post by: gizgiz on December 18, 2007, 11:53:57 pm: Quote from: "Jps"
Please don't skip 1960. Such an important date!

Dont let the brokers suffer in 1970! Let them take a rest 8)

Edit: The next round won't be so great because of this whole multi worlds thing. So why make the 70's bad. Just make the 60's... and... you'll enjoy the 70's!

1970 it must be!!!!
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Post by: MarioDooley on December 19, 2007, 12:13:16 am: The 60's!
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Post by: AndyC on December 19, 2007, 12:30:40 am: I really don't see the point of skipping 15 years into the future - but that's just me. :roll:
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Post by: MDEuroWalker on December 19, 2007, 02:53:37 am: 1970s!!! Ooohhh.... my Boeing 747s and Boeing 737s... and maybe Lockheed Tristar!!!
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Post by: SeaBlue Pacific Air on December 19, 2007, 03:12:07 am: Let's just start at 65. Since this is a 5-year round, we really won't miss the 60s if we start at 65. When the 70s arrive, multiworld and interface issues would have been solved by then. I don't think I'd enjoy a half-baked 70s.
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Post by: Japanair on December 19, 2007, 05:01:02 am: 60's!
Don't like to skip too much of a decade.
And I would like to be the first guy to buy a 707 when its INTRODUCED-AND we get fewer years of buying a 707 too.
But the 70's are most likely going to win. =(
*sigh*
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Post by: dktc on December 19, 2007, 07:25:29 am: Quote from: "Air Elbonia"
technically we have aircraft in the database from 1920-2009

Technically, 1920~2013 :wink:

The Clipper is not in the database because it is not an amphlibian.
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Post by: Jps on December 19, 2007, 07:55:05 am: So the game will last until 2013 :shock: ?
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Post by: StephenM on December 19, 2007, 09:31:18 am: Quote from: "Jps"
So the game will last until 2013 :shock: ?

It can last, but I wouldn't expect to see that time line in the game for a while yet.
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Post by: suntoucher on December 19, 2007, 10:48:29 am: The 70s had some gorgeous planes. So I must cast my vote there. Alas no Concorde though. I was actually thinking the 30s would be fun as it would encourage alliances and spreading over the world but yeah with these numbers the short haul flights would ruin it. Maybe if we had half or a quarter of the numbers we have now the 30s would be great but alas. But yeah the later we start the faster the skilled players make their money so the gap will be larger but I guess the only way to beat that is to be one of those larger airlines with the long haul planes early on. Do we get to choose our home base again? I think I might do a swap.
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Post by: Yorkshair on December 19, 2007, 01:33:13 pm: 1970s! I want 737s!!
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Post by: 747-300 on December 19, 2007, 04:37:01 pm: my suggestion to make greeks and trojans happy

why we don't have the 5 years in 1970 and when the 5 years period ends we back to 1960? :lol:
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Post by: sla31 on December 19, 2007, 04:41:41 pm: That sounds good. I wouldn't mind that.
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Post by: suntoucher on December 20, 2007, 01:26:50 am: Because then we wouldn't have Rome if the Greeks didn't win.
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Post by: ChinaPacific on December 20, 2007, 03:14:34 pm: 1970 of coz!!
i want 747
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Post by: SJR on December 21, 2007, 02:21:18 pm: What time will the reset take affect or is that not yet decided. Could do with knowing so i can plan my activities for the first day with which i want to end the day with at least two aircraft operating from my Carlisle base.

Routes will be officially announced but i do have some idea of the first destinations i wish to serve. Also what is the 60's and 70's prime aircraft (the one you are given to start with!)
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Post by: Air Elbonia on December 21, 2007, 08:13:40 pm: Quote from: "SJR"
What time will the reset take affect or is that not yet decided. Could do with knowing so i can plan my activities for the first day with which i want to end the day with at least two aircraft operating from my Carlisle base.

Routes will be officially announced but i do have some idea of the first destinations i wish to serve. Also what is the 60's and 70's prime aircraft (the one you are given to start with!)

Not yet decided, however we will have a 24 hour log-in period again so everyone should get a chance to start on a relatively equal footing.
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Post by: yuziirvine on December 21, 2007, 08:55:02 pm: So are we decided to start at the 70s now?
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Post by: SJR on December 21, 2007, 09:02:15 pm: Okay was wondering because as i said i have to work on the 23rd and therefore didnt like the idea i may come back and find out that everyone had started 6 hours ago and had a six hour lead over me.
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Post by: Seattle on December 21, 2007, 10:38:54 pm: big deal :lol:

Anyways, 1970. More plane options, but Id actually like to see 1965, or better yet, 1968 :)
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Post by: FWA2500 on December 22, 2007, 03:01:00 am: i have one question.....why does everyone hate the great classic prop and jetliners? :? they are the most beautiful planes ever built......modern planes have no soul, they are all computer designed and operated.....
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Post by: suntoucher on December 22, 2007, 03:12:37 am: Because we're not sitting in them and there's no visuals yet. Right now everyone wants range, pax and money.
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Post by: Air Elbonia on December 22, 2007, 03:17:02 am: Quote from: "FWA2500"
i have one question.....why does everyone hate the great classic prop and jetliners? :? they are the most beautiful planes ever built......modern planes have no soul, they are all computer designed and operated.....

I think it's partially people like what they're familiar with (not as many know the prop planes beyond the Dc-3) and partially they like the speed and range afforded by the most modern jets. -shrug-
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Post by: FWA2500 on December 22, 2007, 03:32:20 am: Quote from: "suntoucher"
Because we're not sitting in them and there's no visuals yet. Right now everyone wants range, pax and money.

"Respect the classics, man..." -Filmore (from Cars)

so what if theres no visuals? as you said, range pac and money, so do just that....with the planes of the past.

i swear i was born in the wrong time period..... :(
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Post by: LOT 737-300 on December 22, 2007, 03:33:23 am: To be honest, even though the IL-18 might've been a accident (introduced a bit early, eh?), it almost is like a small sized 737 or F-100. Only that it is slightly smaller and burns more fuel (though the fuel cost in 1955 would be not as hard biting as it would be in 2007 obviously, but it still is a very good plane). Also seems to have similar range to the base 735 I think. I have 40 of them in my fleet and just luv them :D.

The other "classic" birds remind me of their turboprop powered counterparts from the future too and to be honest, other than the airlines based at the megaports, they made up a huge portion of the airlines, just like the M 4-0-4/CVs do here.
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Post by: Seattle on December 22, 2007, 04:26:27 pm: Modern day planes aren't all made by machine! They are designed on computers, by people who put all their soul into making the planes!
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Post by: nwadeltaboy on December 22, 2007, 08:50:19 pm: the A380 has computer designed wings -- they are the most efficient wings ever constructed and are completely silent. :)
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Post by: FWA2500 on December 22, 2007, 10:39:07 pm: Quote from: "Seattle"
Modern day planes aren't all made by machine! They are designed on computers, by people who put all their soul into making the planes!

thats the thing, they are all designed and calculated out by computers, but penned out on paper, or a napkin while on lunch break.....there is no soul in the design any more, just technology....and for me, even being the tech geek that i am, that is not a good thing...
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Post by: Seattle on December 22, 2007, 10:52:04 pm: Quote from: "FWA2500"
Quote from: "Seattle"
Modern day planes aren't all made by machine! They are designed on computers, by people who put all their soul into making the planes!

thats the thing, they are all designed and calculated out by computers, but penned out on paper, or a napkin while on lunch break.....there is no soul in the design any more, just technology....and for me, even being the tech geek that i am, that is not a good thing...

My friends parents work for Boeing! My own parents work for Boeing!

People design them on paper and on the computer! They put forth their minds and spirit into it!

Do you build planes?
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Post by: Pacific on December 22, 2007, 10:54:58 pm: With the new round starting at 1970...locked. 8)