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Airline Mogul => General Chat => Topic started by: StephenM on February 11, 2007, 07:32:38 pm

Title: Reset (24th Dec 1989)
Post by: StephenM on February 11, 2007, 07:32:38 pm: Reset anyone?
Title: Reset (24th Dec 1989)
Post by: d1-3508 on February 11, 2007, 07:39:09 pm: Yep from me, what's the earliest you can do it? (Around 10-11am AEDT?)
Title: Reset (24th Dec 1989)
Post by: SCA CEO on February 12, 2007, 03:23:24 am: I'm ready for it.
Title: Reset (24th Dec 1989)
Post by: d1-3508 on February 12, 2007, 04:11:58 am: Maybe it would be an idea to suit it more towards the east side of GMT? (Asia, Europe, Australia)
Title: Reset (24th Dec 1989)
Post by: StephenM on February 12, 2007, 03:20:25 pm: I'll aim for a game reset on 31 Dec 1989. Try and get some new functionality in there by then aswell. (Alliances etc)

Any objections?
Title: Reset (24th Dec 1989)
Post by: MrOrange on February 12, 2007, 03:44:06 pm: Sounds good to me, especcially the Alliance function (if it's done in time)
Title: Reset (24th Dec 1989)
Post by: SCA CEO on February 12, 2007, 03:53:34 pm: Sounds great, only about a week away. I just wished I could get my 747-400's on some routes before then. :(
Title: Reset (24th Dec 1989)
Post by: StephenM on February 12, 2007, 04:38:42 pm: But then the game gets interesting again, although some people will differ I get the best out of these games in the startup stages as you are constantly planning and checking, carefully pruning your airline. :)
Title: Reset (24th Dec 1989)
Post by: SCA CEO on February 12, 2007, 05:42:57 pm: I just want a chance at the top 5 as I'm sure I could do. My airline grew pretty fast, but steadily slowed down as I stopped caring because things got real slow.
Title: Reset (24th Dec 1989)
Post by: d1-3508 on February 12, 2007, 10:18:17 pm: Replace the 31st with the 24th... :wink: (You forgot there are only 24 days per month in the game...)
Title: Reset (24th Dec 1989)
Post by: StephenM on February 12, 2007, 10:24:49 pm: Quote from: "d1-3508"
Replace the 31st with the 24th... :wink: (You forgot there are only 24 days per month in the game...)

Well spotted. :D
Title: Reset (24th Dec 1989)
Post by: d1-3508 on February 14, 2007, 02:55:06 am: Sorry, aiming to move it to Game general chat, and it landed in General general chat! :twisted:
Title: Reset (24th Dec 1989)
Post by: StephenM on February 14, 2007, 08:48:09 am: There we go, I was scratching my head there for a while wondering when did I post this? :D
Title: Reset (24th Dec 1989)
Post by: Pierre on February 14, 2007, 05:40:21 pm: Im up for it Steve!
Title: Reset (24th Dec 1989)
Post by: pp_me on February 14, 2007, 09:07:57 pm: Would what i have done be included in the update?
Title: Reset (24th Dec 1989)
Post by: JDubman on February 15, 2007, 03:06:22 am: Unless new features will be added as stated above, I personally, am against a reset at this time.
Title: Reset (24th Dec 1989)
Post by: d1-3508 on February 15, 2007, 03:59:49 am: As far as I know (and I'm a member of staff!!!), the alliances will be added.
Title: Reset (24th Dec 1989)
Post by: Danny on February 15, 2007, 02:55:23 pm: Alliances is not enough for reset imho. New LF / Profit formula is needed and that would be a good reason to reset.
Title: Reset (24th Dec 1989)
Post by: cry2d on February 15, 2007, 03:43:48 pm: I say lets continue the game... It was just getting interesting with the introduction of the 744........
Title: Reset (24th Dec 1989)
Post by: sh4wn on February 15, 2007, 05:34:34 pm: when more features added... thats was intresting...

Like Credit Institute for Buying Airplanes...
Like Ground Handling...
Like Routes with stopover on Airports to refueling (for longer routes)...
Like Alliance...

and more... but only Alliance is not enough...
Title: Reset (24th Dec 1989)
Post by: MUFC4evr on February 15, 2007, 07:53:46 pm: im all for a reset cos it will be more fair on airlines that didnt abuse a bug at the start of the game to challenge for a top 5 ranking
Title: Reset (24th Dec 1989)
Post by: Tr3f4yne on February 15, 2007, 09:51:13 pm: i am against a reset because i play this game for like a month now and i think i got pretty good so far. i created a "inter-german" airline and its growing steadily. my biggest reason for being against a reset is that i want to invest in 4 B744 for which i shure need a ton of money but i'm getting there....nice 'n' slow :D

@airlinemogul-team: you are doing a nice job with this game, keep it up!

greetz

Tr3f4yne
Title: Reset (24th Dec 1989)
Post by: SCA CEO on February 15, 2007, 11:13:29 pm: Reset is much needed to level the playing field and giving new active members a chance at a better ranking.

Also all aircraft that are on the market now will be there after, I don't think they're changing that information or reverting back to 1970.
Title: Reset (24th Dec 1989)
Post by: d1-3508 on February 16, 2007, 01:21:32 am: The reset (As far as I know) will be back to 1970?
Title: Reset (24th Dec 1989)
Post by: pepto on February 16, 2007, 05:13:30 am: Reset is ok if (minimum),

1. Alliances are included
2. Route-edit is working
3. Startingdate is January 1st 1990
Title: Reset (24th Dec 1989)
Post by: Crow on February 16, 2007, 07:34:17 am: I want a reset if not backtracking to 1970s :)
Title: Reset (24th Dec 1989)
Post by: Tr3f4yne on February 16, 2007, 09:22:28 am: Well then i'm confused. What does a reset look like? In my opinion a reset would be a restart where every airlineoperator has to start from the begining again....from zero so to say. If someone could give me an explanation that would be great.

Thanks
Title: Reset (24th Dec 1989)
Post by: StephenM on February 16, 2007, 11:55:16 am: Reset will have date remaining at 1st Jan 1990, after that probably a reset for 2000 and then when we reach 2007 its back to 1970 or even earlier if you all want. Thats a bit long range but I do want to get to today ingame! :D
Title: Reset (24th Dec 1989)
Post by: cry2d on February 16, 2007, 02:58:58 pm: so what are we looking at .... starting over with 5 million and a F27?
Title: Reset (24th Dec 1989)
Post by: StephenM on February 16, 2007, 03:09:10 pm: Quote from: "cry2d"
so what are we looking at .... starting over with 5 million and a F27?

Pretty much, yep. I'll also have the brokers with a pile of small aircraft too so it will help kick start things.
Title: Reset (24th Dec 1989)
Post by: SCA CEO on February 16, 2007, 05:00:15 pm: I'm a broker! Can I get small aircraft?
Title: Reset (24th Dec 1989)
Post by: EXTspotter on February 16, 2007, 06:41:34 pm: All the brokers should not be able to operate aircraft then.
Title: Reset (24th Dec 1989)
Post by: SCA CEO on February 16, 2007, 08:22:32 pm: Ok, instead of removing a player's ability to actually operate in this game, how about there be a reduction in Route profits for brokers?

So a 20 to 25 percent decrease?

It doesn't make any sense to remove a player's ability to buy more planes, sell them, and make more money.
Title: Reset (24th Dec 1989)
Post by: MrOrange on February 16, 2007, 08:59:34 pm: There is if the point of being a broker is to make a profit by selling aircraft, and buying them cheaper and then selling them again (etc, you got the point I guess). And having 25% less income from flights would still give you a big advantage over other players, who have only one plane.
Title: Reset (24th Dec 1989)
Post by: MUFC4evr on February 16, 2007, 09:03:09 pm: we should be ranked by passanger numbers also instead of value. Makes it more real then
Title: Reset (24th Dec 1989)
Post by: StephenM on February 16, 2007, 10:50:19 pm: Quote from: "MUFC4evr"
we should be ranked by passanger numbers also instead of value. Makes it more real then

Good suggestion actually. :)
Title: Reset (24th Dec 1989)
Post by: cry2d on February 16, 2007, 11:16:07 pm: Hey instead of F-27 what about starting with a Fokker-50?
Title: Reset (24th Dec 1989)
Post by: tomauer on February 17, 2007, 06:09:16 am: that would be historically incorrect :) .. Good work with the total anyway..

Damn, I left on holiday to the Philippines JUST when Registration opened.. man its been a 1 year wait :lol: oh well, have fun with the new game
Title: Suggestion Update
Post by: Nasias on February 18, 2007, 02:16:53 pm: I suggest that:

1. Alliances (Codeshare)
2. Stopover - The Most Important
3. More Enhanced The Gates View (such as arrival or departure; set the time of departure and arrival)

Hope that this game updated like these ways
Thanks
Title: Reset (24th Dec 1989)
Post by: d1-3508 on February 18, 2007, 11:28:02 pm: 1. Is going to Occur (in 2 hours time)
2. Yes, but the problem with that is, you'd have sort of a "Mini Hub"
3a. I wouldn't say this is greatly important, and as well, it would be very hard to code.
3b. If it were expanded to include days of the week, then it would be a bit more useful.
Title: Reset (24th Dec 1989)
Post by: StephenM on February 18, 2007, 11:50:15 pm: The game is now paused, I'll try and minimise downtime but it may take 2-3 days.
Title: Reset (24th Dec 1989)
Post by: Pierre on February 19, 2007, 06:11:03 pm: Quote from: "StephenM"
The game is now paused, I'll try and minimise downtime but it may take 2-3 days.

Hopefully before the end of the week mate! Good job! :wink:
Title: Reset (24th Dec 1989)
Post by: SCA CEO on February 22, 2007, 12:37:28 am: I'd hate to be the person to ask this... but when will the reset come in real-time?
Title: Reset (24th Dec 1989)
Post by: d1-3508 on February 22, 2007, 02:40:43 am: Most likely (I am disscussing with Stephen at the moment) before Sunday.
Title: Reset (24th Dec 1989)
Post by: Pierre on February 22, 2007, 09:25:30 am: Quote from: "d1-3508"
Most likely (I am disscussing with Stephen at the moment) before Sunday.

:lol:
Title: Reset (24th Dec 1989)
Post by: d1-3508 on February 22, 2007, 11:25:21 am: No, this is no joke.
It will be before Sunday.
Title: Reset (24th Dec 1989)
Post by: StephenM on February 22, 2007, 02:06:52 pm: Hopefully! :D
Title: Reset (24th Dec 1989)
Post by: Pierre on February 22, 2007, 06:55:30 pm: Quote from: "StephenM"
Hopefully! :D

Good! :o
Title: Reset (24th Dec 1989)
Post by: gizgiz on February 23, 2007, 02:58:33 pm: :twisted: Let the alliance wars....uh....BEGIN :D
Title: Reset (24th Dec 1989)
Post by: C.Durgut on February 24, 2007, 03:46:41 am: Lets remeber though that Focus cities and hubs are different.
An example is any airline can have 3 hubs and 4 focus cities
Title: Reset (24th Dec 1989)
Post by: Pierre on February 24, 2007, 04:03:13 pm: *cough* sunday tomorrow * cough * :P
Title: Reset (24th Dec 1989)
Post by: Crow on February 24, 2007, 08:23:43 pm: *Double cough* :roll:
Title: Reset (24th Dec 1989)
Post by: SCA CEO on February 25, 2007, 03:10:39 am: Hmm, it's sunday in Europe!
Title: Reset (24th Dec 1989)
Post by: d1-3508 on February 25, 2007, 03:12:03 am: True, It's 1412 down here...
Title: Reset (24th Dec 1989)
Post by: SCA CEO on February 25, 2007, 03:24:09 am: And still no reset... tisk tisk. :)
Title: Reset (24th Dec 1989)
Post by: d1-3508 on February 25, 2007, 03:25:48 am: I don't mind (It gives me more time to compile AMM.)
Title: Reset (24th Dec 1989)
Post by: StephenM on February 25, 2007, 08:40:17 am: Its 08:39am on a Sunday here, nearly time to go to mass. Remember I have until midnight tonight to get it done before I am officially late! :lol:
Title: Reset (24th Dec 1989)
Post by: d1-3508 on February 25, 2007, 08:42:44 am: 7.40pm over here, 50-odd hours awake (so far).
(I need a break.)
Title: Reset (24th Dec 1989)
Post by: StephenM on February 25, 2007, 10:23:46 am: :shock: Not waiting on Airline Mogul I hope! I think you need a break too, when you get up tomorrow morning (If you go to bed!) hopefully you will have stuff to play with. :P
Title: Reset (24th Dec 1989)
Post by: SCA CEO on February 25, 2007, 03:27:14 pm: When it was promised before Sunday, I didn't think the day Sunday was included as well. :P
Title: Reset (24th Dec 1989)
Post by: jacol on February 25, 2007, 07:34:43 pm: Quote from: "SCA CEO"
When it was promised before Sunday, I didn't think the day Sunday was included as well. :P

oh yes... i cant stand... :)
Title: Reset (24th Dec 1989)
Post by: pp_me on February 25, 2007, 08:32:45 pm: 3 and a half hours left
Title: Reset (24th Dec 1989)
Post by: d1-3508 on February 25, 2007, 08:56:50 pm: Quote from: "StephenM"
:shock: Not waiting on Airline Mogul I hope! I think you need a break too, when you get up tomorrow morning (If you go to bed!) hopefully you will have stuff to play with. :P

No, I am not waiting on AM, but I am looking at this on my Palm Treo 700w, which I bought last time I was in the US, (and it looks reasonable).
No, I did NOT get any sleep last night, being 24 overnight for the 12 (or so) night in a row.
I shall have a break sometime later today, and head out and spot these things (my other hobby) (Here is the link: http://www.vicsig.net/index.php?page=suburban&traintype=Hitachi )
Title: Reset (24th Dec 1989)
Post by: StephenM on February 25, 2007, 09:33:37 pm: This is the type train I got back up to Dublin today:
http://helskitchen075.fotopic.net/p29275976.html

It was a 071 class (Serial 086) with a rake of 5 standard Mk.2 + Restraunt Car + Generator car.
Title: Reset (24th Dec 1989)
Post by: d1-3508 on February 25, 2007, 11:13:45 pm: Bit nice...

Anyway, back to the topic.

I see the reset is going ahead (at the moment).
Title: Reset (24th Dec 1989)
Post by: StephenM on February 25, 2007, 11:37:06 pm: Yep, doing a database backup as we speak, the script is ready to go. Hopefully it will be done before midnight. (I want to go to bed!) I really dont have as much done as I wanted but alliances may work, testing required over the next few days.
Title: Reset (24th Dec 1989)
Post by: d1-3508 on February 25, 2007, 11:52:18 pm: Quote
(I want to go to bed!)

Welcome to the club :lol:

Will testing of the alliance feature be only Shamrock?
Title: Reset (24th Dec 1989)
Post by: StephenM on February 26, 2007, 12:02:58 am: Open to all, check out finance.
Title: Reset (24th Dec 1989)
Post by: SCA CEO on February 26, 2007, 12:24:37 am: Thanks for your hard work Stephen. Oh and by the way how did Pacific Blue's value jump up 40 million?
Title: Reset (24th Dec 1989)
Post by: StephenM on February 26, 2007, 12:29:01 am: I've sent a PM but he has gone offline on these forums! I'll see what he says in responce to that.
Title: Reset (24th Dec 1989)
Post by: d1-3508 on February 26, 2007, 12:49:14 am: Responded, and explained.
Let me give you a hint:
Quote
204 ATR-42-320 0 -24 On Order €17,443,086
211 ATR-42-320 0 -24 On Order €17,443,086
200 DHC-6-300 0 -24 On Order €814,880
201 DHC-6-300 0 -24 On Order €814,880 - Last DHC-6-300 to be built!!!
208 Dornier 228-212 0 -24 On Order €759,412
209 Dornier 228-212 0 -24 On Order €759,412
212 EMB 120 0 -24 On Order €1,480,205
213 EMB 120 0 -24 On Order €1,480,205
205 Saab 340B 0 -24 On Order €1,924,165
206 Saab 340B 0 -24 On Order €1,924,165
178 Dash-8-300 12 1 In Service €2,847,695

Or in other words, I "Laundered" the money, and I was going to pay it back. (Plus interest)

Also, this springs to mind:
Quote
The 8 AMM staff will be paid a total of €40,000-€80,000 per half (to start off with, after that it will increase at a rate of 10% per game year.) for their hard work.
Title: Reset (24th Dec 1989)
Post by: d1-3508 on February 26, 2007, 01:04:11 am: Ah, also, I forgot that €10,110,000 into creating International Sky Group.
Title: Reset (24th Dec 1989)
Post by: d1-3508 on February 26, 2007, 02:48:01 am: And finally, How is it fair, with (ID 235) being a broker, which means cheap aircraft, but still flying? :twisted:
Title: Reset (24th Dec 1989)
Post by: d1-3508 on February 26, 2007, 03:07:39 am: Also, those DHC-6-300's I bought BEFORE I took out "that" loan. Therefore I OWN them.
And if you work out the cash amounts, I think you'll find that I OWN the 4 Dornier 228-200's.

So that means I own:
Quote
200 DHC-6-300 0 -24 On Order €814,880
201 DHC-6-300 0 -24 On Order €814,880
208 Dornier 228-212 0 -24 On Order €759,412
209 Dornier 228-212 0 -24 On Order €759,412
178 Dash-8-300 12 1 In Service €2,847,695
223 Dornier 228-212 0 -24 On Order €759,412
224 Dornier 228-212 0 -24 On Order €759,412

Ok? :twisted:

Which makes the amount I owe around the €40,000,000 mark. :twisted:
Title: Reset (24th Dec 1989)
Post by: SCA CEO on February 26, 2007, 06:47:19 pm: I may be a broker, but I haven't seen much difference in prices in airplanes and I'm stuck paying the same. I wish I could change from broker to pax, but I can't.