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Airline Mogul => Bugs => Topic started by: Vaff on November 18, 2007, 10:33:45 pm

Title: Negative gate value
Post by: Vaff on November 18, 2007, 10:33:45 pm
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Seems strange that paris has -1 gate left Strange :-)
Title: Negative gate value
Post by: digifreak on November 18, 2007, 11:07:56 pm
yeap... it happened to me too...
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Title: Negative gate value
Post by: LOT 737-300 on November 18, 2007, 11:22:28 pm
I have a visual on the negative gate. I hope that this isn't the return of something (or someone) from the Blue game.
Title: Negative gate value
Post by: NewYinzer on November 18, 2007, 11:32:03 pm
Juan Trippe is back! Get me my Steyr SPP and my "I'm an Acker Backer" pin!

Seriously, it's probably a small programming bug, and not the start of hacking.
Title: Negative gate value
Post by: LOT 737-300 on November 18, 2007, 11:39:47 pm
Quote from: "NewYinzer"
Juan Trippe is back! Get me my Steyr SPP and my "I'm an Acker Backer" pin!

Seriously, it's probably a small programming bug, and not the start of hacking.

It probebly is, I guess must've been a open gate and 2 players hit the Confirm Button at the same exact time. I'm not familiar with how this all works though.
Title: Negative gate value
Post by: Seattle on November 19, 2007, 02:41:44 am
Quote from: "LOT 737-300"
Quote from: "NewYinzer"
Juan Trippe is back! Get me my Steyr SPP and my "I'm an Acker Backer" pin!

Seriously, it's probably a small programming bug, and not the start of hacking.

It probebly is, I guess must've been a open gate and 2 players hit the Confirm Button at the same exact time. I'm not familiar with how this all works though.


 :lol:

An extra gate was created!
Title: Re: Negative gate value
Post by: PedestrianMe on November 19, 2007, 04:01:51 am
Quote from: "Vaff"
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Seems strange that paris has -1 gate left Strange :-)


Gate -1? Oh, that's a famous gate at CDG. I've been there. Here's a picture I took of Gate -1:

(http://www.agilitynut.com/p/taiwan.jpg)
Title: Re: Negative gate value
Post by: Seattle on November 19, 2007, 04:36:34 am
Quote from: "PedestrianMe"
Quote from: "Vaff"
View CDG Paris Charles De Gaule 53,756,200 -1 350,000 1,770,940  France  Rent

Seems strange that paris has -1 gate left Strange :-)


Gate -1? Oh, that's a famous gate at CDG. I've been there. Here's a picture I took of Gate -1:

(http://www.agilitynut.com/p/taiwan.jpg)


I'm a bit disturbed about that..... its a watermelon thingy.........
Title: Re: Negative gate value
Post by: Vamerica on November 19, 2007, 04:44:18 am
Quote from: "Seattle"
Quote from: "PedestrianMe"
Quote from: "Vaff"
View CDG Paris Charles De Gaule 53,756,200 -1 350,000 1,770,940  France  Rent

Seems strange that paris has -1 gate left Strange :-)


Gate -1? Oh, that's a famous gate at CDG. I've been there. Here's a picture I took of Gate -1:

(http://www.agilitynut.com/p/taiwan.jpg)


I'm a bit disturbed about that..... its a watermelon thingy.........


It must be in Asia, because look at the writing on the bench.
Title: Negative gate value
Post by: dktc on November 19, 2007, 04:45:37 am
Japanese
Title: Negative gate value
Post by: Vamerica on November 19, 2007, 04:49:39 am
Quote from: "dktc"
Japanese


Ok, thanks.
Title: Negative gate value
Post by: Seattle on November 19, 2007, 05:01:12 am
Japanese Watermelon thingy as the negative 1 gate in CDG... Intersting. :lol:
Title: Negative gate value
Post by: PedestrianMe on November 19, 2007, 05:26:51 am
Quote from: "Seattle"
Japanese Watermelon thingy as the negative 1 gate in CDG... Intersting. :lol:


I don't know what you're talking about. I totally took that picture at CDG. I also have photos of platform 9 3/4 at Charing Cross. Anyone wanna see them?
Title: Negative gate value
Post by: Seattle on November 19, 2007, 05:33:54 am
Quote from: "PedestrianMe"
Quote from: "Seattle"
Japanese Watermelon thingy as the negative 1 gate in CDG... Intersting. :lol:


I don't know what you're talking about. I totally took that picture at CDG. I also have photos of platform 9 3/4 at Charing Cross. Anyone wanna see them?


definantly. :D
Title: Negative gate value
Post by: Klose on November 19, 2007, 06:30:23 am
I have a zero value for one of my gates too  :roll:
Title: Negative gate value
Post by: Air Elbonia on November 19, 2007, 07:24:14 am
I believe the -1 gate was just a fluke of timing. two people renting in the same split seconds.  I'm familiar with how the AE bug worked, and it doesn't replicate in AM. i just verified this.  It'll correct over time, and shouldn't be a terribly common or problematic occurrence.
Title: Negative gate value
Post by: AirHanoverInternational on November 19, 2007, 07:30:08 am
If this is due to two people pressing confirm at the same time one of them could be me as I rented one gate over the before I went to sleep. :lol:
Title: Negative gate value
Post by: AirHanoverInternational on November 23, 2007, 07:51:23 pm
This thing happened again: Phoenix shows gate -1.
Title: Negative gate value
Post by: empedocles on November 23, 2007, 08:40:16 pm
So if 1 PHX gate gets returned when the month rolls over, will it go to 0 or 1?
Title: Negative gate value
Post by: AirHanoverInternational on November 23, 2007, 09:33:10 pm
I guess it will simply add that free gate to 0.
Title: Negative gate value
Post by: Blue Sky Mine on November 23, 2007, 11:05:45 pm
well, it might also turn around, so if worst comes to worst you might have something like -10 gates tomorrow :P
Title: Negative gate value
Post by: freeeeeeitas on November 24, 2007, 11:21:58 pm
Phoenix is -1-gated also!  :shock:
Title: Negative gate value
Post by: Air Elbonia on November 24, 2007, 11:42:19 pm
If it's ever spotted at a -2... tell me immediately, until then i believe it's simply two people happening to rent a gate at the same time as i cannot replicate the bug through any means i can think of.  IF you know how to rent gates where you shouldn't be able to tell me how you do it so i can fix it, you'll probably be in for a reward of some sort.
Title: Negative gate value
Post by: empedocles on November 25, 2007, 01:06:57 am
OSL was at -2 after the month rollover. It is -1 now.
Title: Negative gate value
Post by: Air Elbonia on November 25, 2007, 09:11:21 pm
Quote from: "empedocles"
OSL was at -2 after the month rollover. It is -1 now.


Hrm. though it's possible 3 people did it at the same time, it's a little less probable. I have a feeling though if gates were being usurped into the negatives it'd be a little more prominent... However

Any notable information helpful in helping me find any possible exceptions/bugs/loopholes in the gate rental system allowing it to go below 0 (thereby helping me to fix them) will result in a reward: A free 10 gate terminal at any airport in the world, with active hub status.  This CAN be on ANY continent, also it CAN be the SEVENTH (7th) hub of a given airline (however, if you choose to close a base after the reward is received, you're back to 6).

Tell your friends, or don't.  Anyways, yes. that's my offer. call it a bounty. I've seen what unchecked gate abuse can do to a game, and it isn't pretty, so i'm willing to pay relatively high price for help to find and fix it.
Title: Negative gate value
Post by: dktc on November 25, 2007, 09:34:55 pm
What about home base for new players? Would the system drum up 2 gates and lease them to the newbies, and then when gates are returned elsewhere, those returned would not be release back to the market?

-or-

Someone rent a gate while a newbie set up a base at the same time?

-or-

The counter variable is off for the auto-return for admin delete? (ie. the gate is released to the market for lease, but the counter is not updated, so it was 0 before the account deleted, 0 with 1 gate available when the account has been deleted, -1 when the gate is leased?... not likely... but... the reward is tempting :P )
Title: Negative gate value
Post by: Air Elbonia on November 25, 2007, 10:00:45 pm
Quote from: "dktc"
What about home base for new players? Would the system drum up 2 gates and lease them to the newbies, and then when gates are returned elsewhere, those returned would not be release back to the market?

-or-

Someone rent a gate while a newbie set up a base at the same time?

-or-

The counter variable is off for the auto-return for admin delete? (ie. the gate is released to the market for lease, but the counter is not updated, so it was 0 before the account deleted, 0 with 1 gate available when the account has been deleted, -1 when the gate is leased?... not likely... but... the reward is tempting :P )


scen. 1: looked, up to now new registrants had no impact on airports ever, now that's been corrected. but as it was not pertaining to this bug sorry. no shiny terminal.  *the update should not cause any problems with this bug, as >2 shouldn't bugger up*.  Looking at set_base, >2 is i place, so its possibilities are pretty slim unless it's freak timing chance.

Scen 2: covered by scen 1 in a realistic sense.

Scen 3: admin delete utilizes the autoreturn system to return the gates, admin bankrupt returns gates using the same function as return gate, which if problematic would probably be a lot more evident then it has been.  From the looks of the function, however, it looks proper and right.
Title: Negative gate value
Post by: Jps on November 26, 2007, 10:52:32 am
Quote from: "Air Elbonia"
Quote from: "empedocles"
OSL was at -2 after the month rollover. It is -1 now.


Hrm. though it's possible 3 people did it at the same time, it's a little less probable. I have a feeling though if gates were being usurped into the negatives it'd be a little more prominent... However

Any notable information helpful in helping me find any possible exceptions/bugs/loopholes in the gate rental system allowing it to go below 0 (thereby helping me to fix them) will result in a reward: A free 10 gate terminal at any airport in the world, with active hub status.  This CAN be on ANY continent, also it CAN be the SEVENTH (7th) hub of a given airline (however, if you choose to close a base after the reward is received, you're back to 6).

Tell your friends, or don't.  Anyways, yes. that's my offer. call it a bounty. I've seen what unchecked gate abuse can do to a game, and it isn't pretty, so i'm willing to pay relatively high price for help to find and fix it.


Mine turned into 1 yesterday.. (it was -1).. too late?  :lol:

And what if I get -1 aircraft?