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Airline Mogul => General Chat => Topic started by: x5airways on October 25, 2007, 09:58:11 am
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how come airlines in Europe can earn so much more profit than those on, say, Africa? I'm hearing about all these Martin 4-0-4's and the like getting 500K a day. I'm based in Jo'burg - why can't I even get close to it? Is it because of demand or something?
Just some background info:
Aircraft ID Aircraft Name Aircraft Type Hours Age Status Book Value Daily Profit
19578 Page HP.81 Hermes 1 0 Leased In €27,158,710 €187,433 Info
5412 Bellanca Aircruiser 1 0 In Service €1,706,541 €60,096 Info
21365 Curtis CW-20 0 0 In Service €12,399,561 €98,495 Info
1483 Douglas DC-3 2 1 In Service €3,723,039 €106,497 Info
12507 Martin 4-0-4 2 0 In Service €8,907,617 €121,415 Info
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Because we have more bigger airports... = bigger competition :roll:
Im having trouble at Helsinki
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Because we have more bigger airports... = bigger competition :roll:
Im having trouble at Helsinki
And that isn't even one of the mega-airports. LHR-CDG is at 30€- however, it started at 1500€. Competition is really huge, but so is the income (if you've got time to edit the routes)
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Big airports + short routes = $$$$$
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And that isn't even one of the mega-airports. LHR-CDG is at 30€- however, it started at 1500€. Competition is really huge, but so is the income (if you've got time to edit the routes)
that route is more about denial of profit for the competition, so put a plane there on low cost so noone can make big bucks
got dop? DOP: €76,282,343 ;)
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And that isn't even one of the mega-airports. LHR-CDG is at 30€- however, it started at 1500€. Competition is really huge, but so is the income (if you've got time to edit the routes)
that route is more about denial of profit for the competition, so put a plane there on low cost so noone can make big bucks
got dop? DOP: €76,282,343 ;)
i'm going to die. there's no way i can ever catch up.
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And that isn't even one of the mega-airports. LHR-CDG is at 30€- however, it started at 1500€. Competition is really huge, but so is the income (if you've got time to edit the routes)
that route is more about denial of profit for the competition, so put a plane there on low cost so noone can make big bucks
got dop? DOP: €76,282,343 ;)
i'm going to die. there's no way i can ever catch up.
See, that's why I based out of a smaller city, I don't have to deal with the bigger and more agressive players as often as much as the guys in the larger cities.
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13m DOP ALFC.. catching up there
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13m DOP ALFC.. catching up there
cool, get more planes :P
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13m DOP ALFC.. catching up there
cool, get more planes :P
almost 14m DOP im retiring DC-3's at the moment...
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13m DOP ALFC.. catching up there
cool, get more planes :P
almost 14m DOP im retiring DC-3's at the moment...
just cancel the leases on those you dont need. if you need some hermes or 377 or something, pm me the number and i will give you a price you will like ;)
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13m DOP ALFC.. catching up there
cool, get more planes :P
almost 14m DOP im retiring DC-3's at the moment...
just cancel the leases on those you dont need. if you need some hermes or 377 or something, pm me the number and i will give you a price you will like ;)
What if i liked the price at 1 euro :lol:
Ill get to it when im finished
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And that isn't even one of the mega-airports. LHR-CDG is at 30€- however, it started at 1500€. Competition is really huge, but so is the income (if you've got time to edit the routes)
that route is more about denial of profit for the competition, so put a plane there on low cost so noone can make big bucks
got dop? DOP: €76,282,343 ;)
i'm going to die. there's no way i can ever catch up.
It's a long game. No, you'll never be #1 in money overall. But you can try and climb as close as possible. Or be #1 in passengers carried.
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My DOP is encroaching the 4 million Euros mark, and I am starting to replace DC3s with Martin4-0-4s. I am now among the top 100 airlines in North America. My goal is to rank among the top 20. I started this game way back at 300-something. My value has soared to over 400 million Euros now...
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Now that I am recieving M 4-0-4s, I can replace the ИЛ-12 on the more lucrative routes. I also bought 2 M 4-0-4s earlier, now my DOP is up to 720K and I'm startin to shoot up in the rankings. Those M 4-0-4s were just what the ATR or ATP was to me last round, a good, solid machine with great operating stats. I think a few more of these things into my network and I can finally afford a L1049 to start Iran flights!
Anyone considering the M 4-0-4 for the 100-1000nm ranged flights should definetly buy them. Best machine I've had so far this round. I think by the end of the "year", I can hit 2 mil DOP and be at 600th place.
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You may think that it's easier in Europe but it's already got to silly season on fares. Some as low as 50euro!! My DOP is 12mill but in the last few days I've added 21 routes and 6 Constellation aircraft and my DOP has actually dropped!!!
I think you'll find that as time progresses some people will really start to feel the pinch and fall down the rankings. All good fun but bloody annoying!!
Rob
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You may think that it's easier in Europe but it's already got to silly season on fares. Some as low as 50euro!! My DOP is 12mill but in the last few days I've added 21 routes and 6 Constellation aircraft and my DOP has actually dropped!!!
I think you'll find that as time progresses some people will really start to feel the pinch and fall down the rankings. All good fun but bloody annoying!!
Rob
If it's from Big City to Big City, I'm not one bit suprised. Competition will get insanly rough from those areas rather quickly as they're the ones that most players want to fly from. If you base out of smaller airports, you'll have a slower growth in DOP, but the 50 Euro "Ryanair wannabes" will come much later and you won't have to deal with them as quick.
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i've been preaching "base out of no more than 10m pax if you dont know how to deal with massive competition" because of this
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but the 50 Euro "Ryanair wannabes" will come much later and you won't have to deal with them as quick.
I'm one of them in my main hub! :twisted: